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A 'Smart' Bathroom Mirror Powered by Android (Video)

Gone are the days of boring bathroom mirrors that only reflect what's in front of them. What you really need is a bathroom mirror that gives stock quotes, displays the local weather, and tells you the temperature of the water you are about to use to wash your face. Seraku Corporation is now in the process of filling that burning need and has gotten a bunch of press attention by doing so. A cynic might wonder why people who absolutely, positively must have Internet access while they shave or perform other bathroom mirror duties don't just make a wall-mounted holder for their tablets next to their pre-Internet bathroom mirrors, but that would destroy the fun of having the display built directly into the mirror, along with sensors that detect hand gestures so you can control your mirror (no doubt by asking, "Who is the fairest of them all?") without touching it with your greasy fingers. Note that this is technically not a smart mirror but a smart washbasin with a mirror attached to it. Either way, it's not available for retail sale quite yet.

71 comments

  1. Slashvertisement! by mythosaz · · Score: 3, Funny

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    1. Re:Slashvertisement! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    2. Re:Slashvertisement! by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      I wonder what it costs to buy a Slashvertisement?

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  2. Porn by fluffythedestroyer · · Score: 1

    Internet Access you say ? Watch porn then lol

    1. Re:Porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last thing I want to see is my ugly mug while rubbing one out. On the plus side if you can still look at yourself in the mirror after watching it, your porn isn't depraved enough. Bring on the pregnant midget bondage litmus test!

      captcaha: mankind

  3. What you really need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What you really need is a bathroom mirror that gives stock quotes, displays the local weather, and tells you the temperature of the water you are about to use to wash your face

    No, all I really need in a mirror is a reflective surface. You know, a "mirror."

    1. Re:What you really need... by bob_super · · Score: 2

      There are quite a few shiny laptops I can sell you for that.
      They incidentally come equipped with the internet.

    2. Re:What you really need... by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      No, all I really need in a mirror is a reflective surface. You know, a "mirror."

      I really wish someone would invent such a thing for the bathroom. I have actually never seen one. The closest thing I've seen are mirrors which only reflect part of the time, namely when the bathroom isn't humid. I've never seen a mirror that reflects after a hot shower; instead, they're always covered by fog.

      What good is this "smart" mirror going to be when I can't read anything on it because it's all fogged up?

    3. Re:What you really need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to have a mirror based on a display and a camera with a real-time DSP to make me look always great no matter how fucked up I am. :-)

    4. Re:What you really need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you really need is to project a display onto the surface of toilet bowl water. Boys could click and move things around with their winkies just like on Minority Report. Seeing Arial perturbed by piss water is how Comic Sans was created.

      Girls would just sit there and read a book.

  4. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >> tells you the temperature of the water you are about to use to wash your face

    Seriously? That is their big idea?

    1. Re:No by mythosaz · · Score: 3, Funny

      I installed color-changing LED faucets -- mostly because I'm a nerd -- but I like knowing when the water has turned from cold as a witches tit to hot as the devil's anus at a glance.

    2. Re:No by femtobyte · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I prefer to use one of the thousands of directly neurally integrated advance biotech thermal sensors that I carry around at all times. I stick the tip of my finger in the water.

    3. Re:No by mythosaz · · Score: 2

      I don't understand. How do you know when to stop playing Angry Birds on the toilet?

    4. Re:No by femtobyte · · Score: 2

      I use spatially optimized bathroom layouts, so that critical information inputs are within direct reach of sensory arrays from the command center. I do not need to embark on a long journey away from the command throne to confirm the proper function of peripheral systems. Why some people insist on inefficient megabathrooms, with a thousand square foot courtyard separating the primary functional units, is beyond me.

    5. Re:No by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I prefer not to stick my finger into ice-cold water if I can help it.

    6. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always wanted to install an on-demand water heater in my house that would deliver water at a guaranteed temperature to any tap with a smart control on it - shower, sink, washer, whatever.

      Unfortunately, I don't have a house, otherwise I'd do it.

  5. Rule 24 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I hear people do watch porn in bathroom. I suspect that it a camera is added there will be a growth industry for naked women putting on makeup. Otherwise just another method for NSA to conduct traffic analysis

  6. No thanks... by mlts · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not another device to get hacked or add another point to be constantly monitored. I'll pass. Couple reasons why:

    1: That temperature of water can be turned scalding quite quickly if someone manages to hack the device, and with a camera, there will be YouTube vids galore of people getting scalded.

    2: I really don't want ads in my bathroom, nor cameras. No viewer or lackey in any intel organization or LEO deserves that punishment.

    3: I also don't want another camera for some potential burglar to have access to via wardriving.

    4: Technology for technology's sake is pointless. I want stuff in a bathroom to be simple and elegant. It is one of the few places in a building where I can get away from it.

    5: I don't need another electronic item to break or need power.

    1. Re:No thanks... by danomac · · Score: 1

      I can think of another reason: it's bad enough that I nick myself sometimes in the morning shaving while I'm half awake. So now I'll get to read stuff and not pay attention, between being half awake and distracted, I'm going to have cuts all over my face! If I even have a face left!

    2. Re:No thanks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ....Technology for technology's sake is pointless. I want stuff in a bathroom to be simple and elegant. It is one of the few places in a building where I can get away from it.

      What, you think I asked for stupid shit like ringback tones to be invented?

      Technology for technology's sake isn't there to make a point. It's there to make a profit.

      Try and realize that and not be as ignorant as those driving this kind of shit to the marketplace.

    3. Re:No thanks... by noobermin · · Score: 2

      Technology for technology's sake is pointless.

      Slashdot. News for Nerds, Stuff That Matters

      Your privacy concerns are valid, but how is disliking technology for technology's sake, which is something I think that all nerds do, nerdy? Sometimes, this site confuses me.

    4. Re:No thanks... by femtobyte · · Score: 1

      how is disliking technology for technology's sake, which is something I think that all nerds do, nerdy?

      Being knowledgeable and passionate about a subject usually leads to developing a critical evaluative stance specifically towards the objects of your interest. If you're a food nerd, you're likely a more picky eater than someone who crams any piece of food into their mouth. If you're a typography nerd, you may be thrown into a spitting rage by the vast majority of texts printed. If you're a technology nerd, you might not be inclined to mindlessly gush about every silly bauble with a computer in it. You might set a rather high standard for the technology that you do admire --- expecting a remarkable level of elegance, functionality, or clever hacking found only in rare instances.

    5. Re:No thanks... by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

      Not another device to get hacked or add another point to be constantly monitored. I'll pass. Couple reasons why:

      1: That temperature of water can be turned scalding quite quickly if someone manages to hack the device, and with a camera, there will be YouTube vids galore of people getting scalded.
      2: I really don't want ads in my bathroom, nor cameras. No viewer or lackey in any intel organization or LEO deserves that punishment.
      3: I also don't want another camera for some potential burglar to have access to via wardriving.
      4: Technology for technology's sake is pointless. I want stuff in a bathroom to be simple and elegant. It is one of the few places in a building where I can get away from it.
      5: I don't need another electronic item to break or need power.

      I agree, and I think I can sum up all of these points in one phrase: Form follows function.

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    6. Re:No thanks... by zwei2stein · · Score: 1

      But this is not even technology.

      This is fashion statement as form matters more than function.

      That is a bit anti-nerdy.

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  7. Includes Audible Feedback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (Insert appearance jokes here.)

    1. Re:Includes Audible Feedback by c0lo · · Score: 1

      (Insert appearance jokes here.)

      Nope. I'll go with "The Year of Linux on the washbasin".

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  8. Old tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's probably 15 or 20 years ago now that I toured a model home with a TV set in behind a partially silvered section of the bathroom mirror. (When it was off, you couldn't see it.) Do that with a smart TV or computer monitor and it's the same thing.

    Big whoop.

  9. In the other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... a man from New Jersey was convicted today for murder in the 3rd degree. He hacked his ex-girlfriends mirror to tell her she looked fat, after which she killed herself. More at 11.

  10. Great! I've got to have one! by fredrated · · Score: 0

    *Leans over, vomits into trash can* What's the temperature of that?

  11. The extreme by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Funny

    For years I've been a fan of matte displays, preferring to have my displays still usable when there are other lights around, but I guess glossy displays have now reached their extreme.

    I bet the glare's awful.

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  12. Pointless at its best!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is utterly senseless! Apart from the security concerns voiced above, this is a very useless place to put android on.

  13. No. Just, no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Newsflash: Not ever part of your life needs to be electronic.

  14. looking at it backwards by roc97007 · · Score: 2

    The concept makes a little more sense if you think of it as a display that could double as a mirror. Although that would probably cost more. (The video appears to show a real mirror with display features built in.)

    Then I asked myself, why aren't all displays also mirrors. I have a mirror app on my phone that uses the front facing camera. Should be an easy thing to do. And then I went oh yeah ... Front facing cameras on internet enabled devices, hanging on the wall. No way that could be abused.

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  15. Webcam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess you could just have an app that shows you the front cam image on your ipad, which you hang on the wall. Then just have some stock and weather stuff around the image on the screen. This is just a bigger copy of what is already doable. Just don't let your tablet get hacked or find video of you naked in the bathroom on the web somewhere.

  16. No thanks by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

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  17. Yo dawg I heard you like ads.... by LoRdTAW · · Score: 2

    So we put an ad in yo ad so you can watch ads to watch ads.

    Seriously fuck you to whoever thought it would be a good idea to force us to watch an ad before we watch what essentially is an ad. I immediately stopped watching.

    1. Re:Yo dawg I heard you like ads.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it felt like the longest frigging ad in recorded history. I resolved never to buy whatever the hell it was they were selling, so I just muted it.

  18. Wrong audience by tftp · · Score: 1

    How much time, on average, a typical male geek spends in bathroom staring in the mirror?

    I'd understand if this mirror were to be aimed at female geeks. But they are few and far between. A non-geeky woman doesn't need stock quotes; she would focus on the only object that is important: her own appearance :-)

    1. Re:Wrong audience by home-electro.com · · Score: 1

      Geeky females also do not spend a lot of time in front of mirror. So it fails there, too.

  19. I don't give a fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't give a fuck about any of that. A mirror is a mere mirror. I can't imagine anyone using this beyond a novelty and having too much disposable income. Or as a clever selling-point on a new house.

    This isn't a lot different than using your smartphone on the shitter during your morning shit-session.

  20. You talkin' to me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mirror: Yes. Have you heard about our new offer of male enlargement pills?

  21. REALLY NEED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like how they stressed REALLY. So it is not enough that I sit on a jon with my phone browsing news, I also REALLY need a bathroom mirror that gives me price stock? Some business ideas are just too stupid

  22. What i want in a mirror by rossdee · · Score: 1

    Is up to date files and fast download speeds

  23. Not a smart mirror: Dumb mirror with Internet by erice · · Score: 1

    A smart bathroom mirror would clean and/or defog itself. A "smart" anything uses computation to enhance the original application. Adding internet in no way helps with shaving, washing, styling hair, or any other task that bathroom mirrors are commonly used for. Worse, it increases the maintenance load since it is less robust than a plain mirror and needs to be kept cleaner in order to utilize the new features.

  24. Augmented reality porn! by jimshatt · · Score: 1

    'nuff said.

  25. Should have a built-in camera by rrohbeck · · Score: 1

    to automatically take selfies.

    1. Re:Should have a built-in camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, you obviously failed to click the links and look at the pretty pictures didn't you

      http://smart-washbasin.seraku.co.jp/english/index.html

      First BIG picture. It shows where the features are. See the one labeled CAMERA? Yeah, pretty sure that's a built-in camera.

      Also, read all the posts before yours. Many mention about the camera, in the bathroom, connected to the internet and how "I'm sure there's no potential for abuse there!".

      I know, reading and click is just soooo hard

    2. Re:Should have a built-in camera by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      Um, Also, read all the posts before yours. Many mention about the camera, in the bathroom, connected to the internet

      Yes of course... but the reason we continue positing variations on the theme is directly proportionate to the amount of confidence we have in our ability to outdo the previous wisdom.

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  26. The original version: Star Trek Experience by localroger · · Score: 1

    If you had the chance to visit the late lamented Star Trek Experience at the Las Vegas Hilton when it still existed, and if you had visited the gentlemen's toilet, you would have unzipped before a urinal topped by a mirror. Upon tinkling, the mirror would proceed to display an amusing ad for some silly personal product only available in the Star Trek universe. It was so amusing that there was a constant stream of guys sneaking their girls into the men's room to show it off. Apparently there was a similar gag in the Ladies' at the wash basin, but the ladies report that it wasn't nearly as funny.

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  27. Hey I have one of these by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 1

    I said "Damn, do I look good?" in front of it. The thing laughed for 20 minutes.

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  28. Internet Fridge by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

    DAMMIT! I've been waiting all this time for the "Internet Connected Refrigerator" I was promised 10 years ago so it can order groceries for me - and all they've come up with is a fucking bathroom mirror with stock quotes!?!? Get the fuck out.

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  29. It has potential by SpaceGhost · · Score: 2

    I'm surprised at the overwhelmingly negative commentary on this story. I think it has potential, here's why.

    In my current morning routine, I wake up to a clock radio tuned to NPR while my server turns on the stereo so I can hear NPR in the bathroom. I check my phone to see if there are any fires at work that need to be addressed, then to the bathroom where as I shave and shower I listen for news, traffic and weather. The local NPR is quite mediocre, so even if I hear the traffic and weather I dont always get the info I need. After my shower I get dressed and go. I do NOT typically turn on any kind of display, viewing that as a slow process, but if it's flooding, the radio mentions a bad accident, or there were fires I may turn on my winbox or a tablet, or just address it on the phone.

    With a device like this I would go into the bathroom to see weather with animated radar, the traffic map from the county, and could be streaming the local NPR. I might even check an email on occasion. If traffic looks bad I could email from something larger than my phone. I would be able to set both the shower and sink to the temp I like as a preset so I wouldnt have to take the time to check, adjust, wait, so after shaving the electric razor gets rinsed and straight into a right temp shower. Since my house is older and the hot water has to get there I could save water if it reduced the flow at the right temp. If I get a phone call while in the bathroom I can see the callerid and route the call as desired, or answer it. If someone comes to the door I can view the front door camera, maybe even talk to them. I could view my agenda for the day and reminders of things I need to take. This makes sense because most of the morning routine aside from getting dressed is spent in the bathroom.

    I can see where this would be a productivity enhancer. It won't get me out of the house faster, but could reduce water consumption and significantly enhance the quality of my day. I dont know if I want the specific device in the OP, but as i already have a "smart" home the functionality makes sense. Most people may not, but then most people dont have a house that turns lights and media on and off based on rules. Some technologies that I have implemented in the past ended up not making sense, i.e. controlling the outside lights based on time or rules, when a simple photocell does what I need and is more reliable. I think technology can be helpful, and some kind of terminal in the bathroom could be quite helpful.

    Knee jerk reactions and superior airs do little to advance technology. Maybe some of the whiners dont have computers at home because they dont need to spend quality home time on the internet. Maybe electric lights offend their sensibilities where a proper gas light would have that perfect glow. In any case I do look for meaningful ways to add useful technology and information to my life. Yes there are risks, ooh, someone might see my butt. But if I can make it secure I will, at least as secure as one of my 3 tablets, two laptops, two cpus and smartphone. They contain risks but I still use them.Ten years ago people scoffed at my Palm phone and ridiculed my Newton, three years ago they wondered why I bought a tablet. Now almost everyone I know have smartphones and tablets. I've already built panels using rainmeter and samurize to monitor local conditions as well as multiple cpus, so I know what kind of info would be useful. And frankly the idea of leaving a video "good morning", "I love you", or "dont forget to..." message for someone that wakes at a different time could be quite keen. Both the bathroom and the kitchen could benefit from task-specific technology. Hell I even have an old laptop in my shop to I can look up procedures in the service manuals or do calculations.

    So maybe not this one, but probably eventually.

    1. Re:It has potential by InsightfulPlusTwo · · Score: 1

      In the video, they mentioned that the target audience was hotels or high end apartments. In a hotel, this actually makes sense. The business traveler can use it to catch up with the market or the news, and the leisure traveler can catch the weather while someone else is watching TV. There probably won't be steam issues since mirrors in hotels are often not actually in the bathroom. The device is probably a good selling point for the room as well, because it gives it a sense of high tech and luxury, which would attract a well-heeled geek crowd. Furthermore, I think this device is just one of a wave of future similar devices where cheap electronics are integrated with every other piece of consumer furniture, toy, or clothing, which in many cases will be quite useful. I would use it just for the novelty.

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  30. Asians. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Asians have making useless shit down to a science. Somehow that makes them sound smarter than they actually are though....

    1. Re:Asians. by Lucky_Pierre · · Score: 1

      Pissed off because Panda Express didn't hire you?

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  31. Hidden TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.hiddentelevision.com/
    Been around for a few years now.

  32. I see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Katana is wearing a suit now..

  33. Not Japanese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like it's all American technology - Corning.

  34. I stayed in a hotel in Taipei by Lucky_Pierre · · Score: 1

    Back in the 80s that had a 2-way mirror in the bathroom. Open the closet and you could see right into the bathroom and no computer was involved. My girlfriend was not amused.

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  35. Smart mirror? no it's not by BringsApples · · Score: 1

    A smart mirror would display everything in the correct right/left perspective. And how fucking awesome would that be?

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  36. Galadriel had one of these, right? by mcswell · · Score: 1
  37. Android 2.3 by citizenr · · Score: 1

    Japan used to be on the forefront of innovation. WTF happened? Did it all move to China?

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  38. It ain't what i need but what i want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "What you really need is a bathroom mirror that gives stock quotes, displays the local weather, and tells you the temperature of the water you are about to use to wash your face" Nonsense. But I would like a "mirror" that can play clips of nice hardcore prono, for stress relief, dontyaknow.

  39. you again...ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is there an app that wont make me hate myself when i look in the mirror?

  40. Mirror Mirror on the wall... by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

    This should be filed under "WTF were they thinking?"

    I can just see it now:

    "Mirror mirror on the wall.... Who makes the smelliest poops of them all?"

  41. Power Mirror innovation by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

    For the past 6 months, our local "Casino" has had a power mirror installed. Actually, they use reflective glass, and a projector behind.
    So when you wash your hands, you are shown the money that people won at the tables. They really want high-rollers.

    But, I can'tr wait for them to replace the stall doors with ones having flat screens. So, while you sit, you can watch the advert, in a captive way. I think that is a better idea for a Casino, don't you?

    On second thought, there could be training videos to show you how to flush --- no, that won't work, the toilets are automatic, and do their thing when you get up.

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  42. fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it can't zoom in and magnify a zit, what good is an intelligent mirror?