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With Burning Teslas In the News Ford Recalls Almost 140,000 Escapes

An anonymous reader writes "Tesla received a lot of attention over the Model S fires recently, but they're not the only car company having issues with spontaneous combustion. Ford has issued a recall on almost 140,000 Ford Escapes for potential engine fires. With little media attention on the recall, Musk might have a point about the unfair treatment Tesla gets in the news."

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  1. Re:The peril of new technology by haruchai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Electric cars are new AGAIN and they are very much the "old way"

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  2. Re:"Spontaneous"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had a colleague once whose Ford truck was happily parked at work, until it suddenly combusted for no apparent reason. Building evacuted, fire trucks galore, clouds of toxic smoke. Thank you Ford.

    In all the cases I read of with Tesla, some outside event caused damage before the fire ensued. They are being targeted by the incumbents.

  3. Re:Only Ford? by viperidaenz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I like this one better

    November 25: 14,909 Chevrolet Malibu vehicles from 2013, Recalled for the wiring harness under the front seats which may short circuit, potentially starting a fire.

    Who cares if the engine catches fire, these ones catch the driver on fire.

  4. Re:Fire vs. Potential Fire by steelfood · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sorry, but no. Car companies don't just do recalls. Like all other companies, they first calculate the cost of potential lawsuits vs. the cost of a recall. Then if the cost of the potential lawsuits outweigh the cost of a recall, they'll do the recall.

    The only way to calculate potential cost of a lawsuit is to firstly experience the event out in the field. Then, the only the lawsuit is more expensive than the recall is if the event is linked to a characteristic of the product's design or construction. Then it becomes recall-able. If a fire happens one or a few times due to the car meeting a very specific, user-created condition, then it's not worth a recall. If it has a chance of happening under normal operating circumstances (fender benders and other common accidents are considered normal), it's more likely worth a recall.

    There is no "proactive" recall. Proactive means the action is taken prior to any event, as a preventative measure. Recalls only happen after an event has occurred, prior to it becoming widespread (for full disclosure, I could have worded that last bit differently to de-emphasize the event having happened sporadically already and emphasize the prior-ness, but I wanted to make a point).

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  5. Re:The peril of new technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My favorite exhibit at the Vienna Museum of Technology always was the Porsche-Lohner Wagen. It's an all electric car built in 1900.

  6. Re:Happily parked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yeah, it was happily parked, until I walked past, and laid a thermite grenade on the hood.

    Your credibility (wait, AC and credibility?) takes a hit, when you claim that a parked vehicle burst into flames. I have seen a lot of vehicles on fire, but never a parked vehicle that just suddenly decided to warm itself up. I'll bet you didn't see the fire marshall's report, which probably made mention of an electronic device that was left turned on, or some other logical explanation.

    I know you are bashing just for the sake of it, but here is how the last Ford recall went:

    The cruise control deactivation switch was live, even when the vehicle was off. It mounts on the master cylinder. If there is a leak, which the master cylinder was prone to, then the switch would short and ignite the brake fluid, which it was prone to. This mostly happened when the vehicle was left alone, as while they were in motion the fluid could not collect.

    This is a very well known thing from more than six years ago. It would behoove you to relax, think, and leave the petulant teenage angst in the past where it belongs.

  7. Re:Only Ford? by lazarus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My personal favourite was the recall of 3.4 million airbags last year in Toyota and Nissan vehicles because the ones in the seats may catch fire in the event of an accident:

    "In an accident, the airbag for the front passenger seat may not inflate correctly because of a manufacturing defect in the propellant used in the airbag inflator, the companies said. As a result, there is a risk of fires starting or of passengers being injured."

    You survive the accident, but then your seat catches on fire...and your door won't open... Just imagine. Good thing the media is informing us all about how dangerous a Tesla is.

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