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Unpublished J. D. Salinger Stories Leaked On Bittorrent Site

192_kbps writes "Catcher in the Rye author J. D. Salinger wrote the short story The Ocean Full of Bowling Balls and left depository copies with a few academic libraries with the understanding that the work would not see mass distribution until the mid-21st century. The only authorized place to read the story is in a special reading room at Princeton where electronics are not allowed and a librarian continuously babysits the reader. A PDF of the story, as well as two other unpublished stories, appeared on private bittorrent site what.cd where a huge bounty had been placed for the work. Incredibly, the uploader (or someone connected to the uploader) bought an unauthorized copy on eBay for a pittance. The file, Three Stories, is making the bittorrent rounds but can also be read on mediafire."

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  1. That's terrible... Salinger won't write any more! by magic+maverick+ · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a great example of where copyright helps to encourage authors to write more. The fact that this copy has been leaked, and pirated massively means that Salinger has no incentive to write any more! We need to punish the perpetrators thoroughly.

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  2. Links by cffrost · · Score: 5, Informative

    https://kickass.to/three-stories-j-d-salinger-pdf-t8257205.html

    https://torcache.net/torrent/ED8F9DE4B9151B3B0E5B998CAF7A124E9E7B0E17.torrent?title=%5Bkickass.to%5Dthree.stories.j.d.salinger.pdf

    magnet:?xt=urn:btih:ED8F9DE4B9151B3B0E5B998CAF7A124E9E7B0E17&dn=three+stories+j+d+salinger+pdf&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337

    Slashdot fucks up magnet links, but the hash is right there: ED8F9DE4B9151B3B0E5B998CAF7A124E9E7B0E17

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  3. Thank Goodness... by DexterIsADog · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...we wouldn't want to respect the wishes of an author so widely admired. He put words on paper, so fuck him. They stopped belonging to him when they saw the light of day.

    I love this socialist half-paradise, where Wall Street profits are privatized, gigantic losses from gambling with people's deposits are publicly insured, and intellectual works are treated like a turkey thrown into a pit filled with hyenas.

    1. Re:Thank Goodness... by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, his heirs do, for a time at least. See also: Christopher Tolkein.

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    2. Re:Thank Goodness... by TheP4st · · Score: 4, Funny

      I summoned Walt Disney to ask him about his opinion on the matter but we got into a dispute on whom that would own the rights to the recording I were making of our session and before I could ask him he the question he flipped me off and vanished.

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    3. Re:Thank Goodness... by alexander_686 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would say yes – if I a person does not want their work to be published and I will stand on this issue on principle.

      The man did not want his works to be published at this time. I can think of other cases where diarist who things that they did not to be released until ALL affected parties were dead which may not be until decades after the person has died. If a person does not want their work published now it should not be forced. It is the right thing to do.

      Now if we are talking about copyright and compensation issues - that’s a different ball of wax. I would have to say no to that.

    4. Re:Thank Goodness... by myowntrueself · · Score: 2

      ...we wouldn't want to respect the wishes of an author so widely admired. He put words on paper, so fuck him. They stopped belonging to him when they saw the light of day.

      I love this socialist half-paradise, where Wall Street profits are privatized, gigantic losses from gambling with people's deposits are publicly insured, and intellectual works are treated like a turkey thrown into a pit filled with hyenas.

      I haven't read it yet but what if he is a time traveller?!?!? And he wrote about his secret in this story?!???!!! And its somehow important to his timeline that noone know until 2060???!!!!???! Did anyone think of that?? Huh?

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    5. Re:Thank Goodness... by alexander_686 · · Score: 2

      As a person who is interested in history I have to disagree.

      People who write for themselves or for some imaginary future audience write differently for public consumption. Some people are more open in privacy then in the spotlight. They tend to be more frank, expressing concerns, and exploring odd alleys of thought. If, as you say they, “fuck the dog”, I want to know about it. Or at the very least preserved for posterity’s sake.

      Think of Ann Frank’s diary. Read up on Mother Teresa’s personal letters, which shows somebody struggling with their faith – a very different thing then her public persona.

      Personally, I would love to read Henry Kissinger’s diaries to figure out what he was thinking but I know that is not going to happen any time soon.

    6. Re:Thank Goodness... by stenvar · · Score: 2

      I don't follow you. First of all, privatizing profits while publicly insuring profits isn't socialism (socialism has its own problem). Second, copyright is primarily a tool by which corporations monopolize intellectual works in near perpetuity; that's essentially the same problem as the first one.

      Salinger should have gotten 15-30 years of copyright, and afterwards his works should have fallen into the public domain and become an integral part of our culture. Instead, you still can't even get his works in e-book format because his "estate" has a stick up their ass. Yes, those people deserve to be disrespected.

    7. Re:Thank Goodness... by PPH · · Score: 2

      But these works are available in a reading room. So issues of privacy or needing to protect some IP are moot. Its totally an issue of distribution rights. Not that these shouldn't be addressed. But in a world where mass publication is starting to look a lot different than Salinger ever conceived of, how can we determine his intent? Perhaps he didn't want some heirs to profit from his works, in which case Bittorrent distribution might have been perfectly OK with him.

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    8. Re:Thank Goodness... by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 2

      Yes. Remember that scene in "Annie Hall" when he said he sometimes fantasized about turning his car into the oncoming lane, dying in a fiery crash? Remember what happened at the end of "The Deer Hunter?" That wasn't acting; that was him talking from the heart. He was suicidal, and it was only a matter of time.

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    9. Re:Thank Goodness... by WillyWanker · · Score: 2

      I'm sorry, once he was dead all bets are off, despite what the ridiculous copyright laws say. Laws that lock up works for nearly a century after someone dies is a fucking joke. The people shouldn't have to wait 150 years for content to enter the public domain. If his heirs want money they can get up off their asses and get a job like everyone else.

  4. Re:That's terrible... Salinger won't write any mor by somersault · · Score: 2

    Writing your story posthumously is the best way to keep it secret.

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  5. Whoooo.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .....oooooosh.

  6. Overrated by dargaud · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a foreigner, I'd never heard of Salinger or Catcher in the Rye. When I first made it to the US, my friend gave me the book: "You HAVE to read that". I was underwhelmed and to this day still do not understand what all the fuss is about. A story about a whiney teenager with too much money for his own good ? This describe America pretty well to me !!!

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    1. Re:Overrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      As a foreigner, I'd never heard of Salinger or Catcher in the Rye. When I first made it to the US, my friend gave me the book: "You HAVE to read that". I was underwhelmed and to this day still do not understand what all the fuss is about. A story about a whiney teenager with too much money for his own good ? This describe America pretty well to me !!!

      It's not my favorite book either but I think if that's your take away from the book then you missed the point of it. It's a criticism of several facets of American society. Use google or wikipedia for better detailed literary analysis than I can do.

    2. Re:Overrated by Quimo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Read some other novels from the 1950's and you will see how different it is from other books of the time. Yes compared to current novels it is somewhat underwhelming but compared to its contemporaries it is something completely new.

    3. Re:Overrated by jonadab · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > As a foreigner, I'd never heard of Salinger or Catcher in the Rye.

      Yeah, as an American, I've heard about it all my life. However...

      > I was underwhelmed and to this day still do not understand what all the fuss is about.

      Yeah, I think this is how most Americans who have actually attempted
      to read the book feel about it. It's one of those works that gets by
      on pure reputation: people don't want to publicly admit that they
      didn't like it, because then they would not seem intellectual, because
      everyone knows intellectuals all like the book. (Of Mice and Men has
      almost exactly the same reputation and is even more poorly written.
      The Scarlet Letter isn't very much better, and lest I pick exclusively
      on American authors, I'll throw War and Peace into the mix as well,
      though I suppose maybe it's better in the original Russian; I've only
      attempted to wade through it in English.)

      We need somebody famous but with no pretensions (someone like
      a Letterman or a Foxworthy) to speak out in a voice that will be
      heard and tell everyone the obvious: the emperor is butt nekkid.

      Please don't mistake me for saying that classic literature isn't
      good. There are a lot of classics that I really like. In fact, most
      of my favorite books are classics. Hamlet deserves its reputation.
      So does Tom Sawyer. To Kill a Mockingbird is pretty decent even
      just viewed as fiction and furthermore can contribute significantly
      to understanding certain historical social issues. A Tale of Two
      Cities is if anything underrated. The Bible is grossly underrated.
      I'm not saying that classic literature in general isn't good. I'm
      only saying that certain specific works traditionally listed among
      the greats don't actually deserve to be included.

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    4. Re:Overrated by DarkOx · · Score: 2

      No offense intended but I think its very possible as a foreigner you might not be able to really get it. Its like students today don't seem to get as excited about it as people who read it 20 years ago or more did. Catcher and more specifically Holden's experience everyone so identifies with have a lot to do with him facing the reality of life in mid century America in contrast to what he'd been told to except. That is why he is always up in arms about phonies. The less our nation looks like that less people identify with him.

      Sure people still experience adolescent angst and loss of innocence and always will but as time marches on the forms become different and I think readers don't as easily think "hey I once was Holden Caulfield", or depending on your age "I totally get that." So the book does not work its magic so easily anymore. Stream of conscience was brave and innovative. J.D. Salinger deserves lots of credit for trying it and executing it in a way that made it work. I think its a work very tied to a particular age though, and while its had a great 60 year run now, it may be becoming less relevant.

      As to his other works "Franny and Zooey" may be a little more timeless. Sure its still set in a very particular time and place, but the familiar struggles and spiritual questions that book asks may be more enduring. Which is not to say I have any interest in exploring the Tolkienesque Glass family history Salinger is supposed to have crafted and locked in safe somewhere when it does come out. At least for me a farther exploration of their history can only take away for the intellectual experience. So even if you though "Catcher in the Rye" was just okay, I'd still recommend "Franny and Zooey" they are characters Salinger himself loved better than Holden by all accounts and themes of the book are more mature; its worth reading. If you did not like Catcher at all than skip "Franny and Zooey" the texture if you will is much the same.

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    5. Re:Overrated by cybaz · · Score: 2

      I remember reading the book in high school, and it was like a light in the darkness, I felt that someone was finally speaking to me. I promised myself to read it every year so that I wouldn't forget the books message. By about my second year of college when I got half way through the book, I couldn't stand Holden's condescending, entitled attitude, and wondered what I had ever seen in the book.

    6. Re:Overrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I am a foreigner too, and I read it in Russia soon after USSR fall, and I knew about this book years earlier, just could not obtain it.

      After that, I read everything I could get by Salinger. Original book was stolen from me by fellow college mate, who was afraid he won't be able to obtain it otherwise (years later, we both laughed about it).

      This book is fascinating, man. And if you do not understand why - do not worry. Some people never get what is so special about Van Gogh either, so you are not unique.

      Personally, I think in the same vein as computer literacy, one can develop his taste just by doing things repeatedly. So, read more. And if you think you read too much already, then quadruple the number.

    7. Re:Overrated by cffrost · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As a foreigner, I'd never heard of Salinger or Catcher in the Rye. When I first made it to the US, my friend gave me the book: "You HAVE to read that". I was underwhelmed and to this day still do not understand what all the fuss is about. A story about a whiney teenager with too much money for his own good ? This describe America pretty well to me !!!

      No way, god damn it. I think "The Catcher in the goddamn Rye" is one of the best goddamn books there is. Hell, I think it even won a few o' them fancy goddamn awards, but I can't remember their goddamn names.

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    8. Re:Overrated by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Personally, I think Salinger's best, and most accessible, work is "Nine Stories". Have a go at that, if you are interested. How can you resist such titles as, "A Perfect Day for Bananafish" and "For Esmé – with Love and Squalor" . . . ?

      A story about a whiney teenager with too much money for his own good ?

      A lot of famous literary works can be summed up in simple sentences:

      • "Romeo and Juliet" - Kids from the wrong families want to get married, and things go terribly wrong.
      • "The Da Vinci Code" - People solve puzzles and find stuff.
      • "Crime and Punishment" - Guy kills a loan shark, and worries about it later.
      • "The Metamorphis" - Dude turns into a cockroach, and his family freaks out.
      • "Jane Eyre" - Poor chick grows up, and gets married.
      • "Goethe's Faust" - Guy cuts a bad deal with the Devil.
      • "The Bible" - God creates humans, and claims to be good and loving, but spends most of his time making life miserable for humans.
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    9. Re:Overrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or someone ate a magic mushroom or a piece of rye bread with ergotamine rot. Given what we know of primitive cultures and sacred plants, what's the most likely explanation? Oh yeah, aliens. Gotta be aliens.

    10. Re:Overrated by trackedvehicle · · Score: 2

      As a foreigner, I'd never heard of Salinger or Catcher in the Rye. When I first made it to the US, my friend gave me the book: "You HAVE to read that". I was underwhelmed and to this day still do not understand what all the fuss is about. A story about a whiney teenager with too much money for his own good ? This describe America pretty well to me !!!

      Different strokes for different folks: as a non-american (and non-Brit) myself, I absolutely loved Catcher in the Rye when I first read it (which was in Croatian), and became instant fan of J. D. Salinger. After I graduated, I moved to a Nordic country and with more disposable income, bought all his published works in English - and devoured them!

      *Different strokes for different folks, dude.*

    11. Re:Overrated by JustOK · · Score: 2

      What if the aliens were the drug?

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    12. Re:Overrated by jandrese · · Score: 2

      That was a masterful troll sir, including The DaVinci Code in the list of literary works.

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    13. Re:Overrated by H0p313ss · · Score: 4

      As a foreigner, I'd never heard of Salinger or Catcher in the Rye. When I first made it to the US, my friend gave me the book: "You HAVE to read that". I was underwhelmed and to this day still do not understand what all the fuss is about. A story about a whiney teenager with too much money for his own good ? This describe America pretty well to me !!!

      The secret to Catcher in the Rye is reading it when you are a whiny teenager full of your own angst and immaturity and bursting with ego.

      The message is:

      1) You are not the only one
      2) Don't do this

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    14. Re:Overrated by ediron2 · · Score: 2

      Umyeah, thanks for adding another category to my list of 'shit Slashdot pretends to know':

      Literature.

      More specifically, literary criticism. Especially criticism as dictated by someone that thinks Jeff Foxworthy lacks pretension or that his opinion on literary criticism matters, thinks that the bible is 'grossly underrated' (wrong both in estimating it's current impact and what it deserves) and used the term 'butt naked' (it's BUCK naked, FYI). Let me guess: you also don't like modern art.

      Here's the list, FWIW:
      NASA & Rocket Science.
      Economics.
      Intellectual Property Law (not insanely dumb, just a Venn-Diagram of two incompatible circlejerks).
      Law, in general.
      Most things international.
      Ethics vs. Religion.
      Theism and Atheism.
      * Literature.

      I get less worked up about this since I came to my own shitty overgeneralization: slashdot is a large population of mediocre alpha computer nerds who mistake their computer fu for omniscience. Don't get me wrong; I'm still here for the occasional brilliant comment as much as the news itself. Like many good recipes, there's enough spice/quality peppered into the mix for me to rank slashdot miles above the comments in Youtube or 4chan, but it's steadily being diminished by the crap comments as dimmer smug people hold forth at length.

      PS: "Just viewed as fiction"?! What the bubbling incoherent fuck else would one view a novel as?

  7. New depth to "RTFA" by swampfriend · · Score: 2

    Funny that I don't see anyone talk about the stories themselves, just the news surrounding their acquisition... Is there some radical content in these stories, something of super-human insight or intelligence, that was supposed to be locked away for a good reason?

    1. Re:New depth to "RTFA" by jonadab · · Score: 2

      I'm just guessing here, but my guess would be "No."

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  8. So where did the eBay copy come from? by Wootery · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Incredibly, the uploader (or someone connected to the uploader) bought an unauthorized copy on eBay for a pittance

    One presumes then that although this stuff is now kept under lock and key, it wasn't always so carefully protected?

    1. Re:So where did the eBay copy come from? by BasilBrush · · Score: 2

      Back in the days of Shakespeare, rival publishers used to print "scripts" of the plays based on what they could recall from having seen the plays. They were of course wildly inaccurate, with entirely different text.

      It was a major reason for the First Folio. An official version to correct the record of what Shakespeare's texts actually were.

  9. Ain't skeered by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2

    I'm all over these torrents. What are they going to do, sue me? Let me see - me and about 3000 other seeders, and a few hundred leeches. I don't own anything worth taking, and my working life is nearing an end - what do you think they can gain by suing me?

      Funny thing - all the working magnets seem to be DHT and PeX. Interesting that. I wonder how many are using anonymizing programs on their torrent clients? Ha! Glancing through the list of peers, a fair number are coming through proxies that are easily recognizable as proxies.

    I suspect that the reason we haven't heard of any high-profile suites over torrenting, is that the gestapos *IAA organizations can't reliably identify "infringers" any longer.

    Whatever - I want to read the stories, and see what I think of them.

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    1. Re:Ain't skeered by roninmagus · · Score: 2

      LOL, parent just said "Hey J.D., love your stuff buddy. So much so that I'll pick up anything new as soon as it becomes available. Oh, but you had a plan that you set in motion for when that material would be available? Well fuck that, because I'm downloading that shit, because fuck you."

    2. Re:Ain't skeered by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2

      Since Salinger is dead, there is no moral reason to honor his wishes. He doesn't care -- he's dead.

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  10. The mystery of how the story got out by KBehemoth · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slightly overweight visitor: "Ok, Glass..."
    Heavily-Armed Librarian Guardian: "What did you say?"
    Slightly overweight visitor: "Uh, I said... looking classy... Looking classy, Mr. Salinger!"
    Heavily-Armed Librarian Guardian: "Shh."

    [ later that day ]

    Heavily-Armed Librarian Guardian: "I wonder why that guy was wearing a Guy Fawkes mask."

  11. Re:That's terrible... Salinger won't write any mor by westlake · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a great example of where copyright helps to encourage authors to write more. The fact that this copy has been leaked, and pirated massively means that Salinger has no incentive to write any more! We need to punish the perpetrators thoroughly.

    It is a disincentive to trust your unpublished manuscripts, papers and memoirs to Princeton --- it is easier to speak candidly if no one living will have to bear the consequences.

  12. Re:That's terrible... Salinger won't write any mor by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nobody understands copyright law.

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  13. Re:Highly Overrated by DarkOx · · Score: 2

    I'll agree it might not deserve its place of regard near the apex of American literature but it certainly isn't crap. Maybe it no longer should be one of the five or six books we determinedly cram down every high schoolers throat anymore but someone seriously interested in American literature still needs to pay it a visit for certain.

    It was a work of avaunt guard art in its day. There really was little in the way of "modern" coming of age works at the time, and nobody had done a novel length narrative in stream of conscience. The fact he did both and created a book that most people at least like well enough to finish even if they find they can't identify suggests its actually a pretty good book.

    Some of its artistic greatness comes from the fact that it was unique. There have been lots of imitators who have created lots of crap since, but the original deserves a little reverence. If in visual arts I took a canvas painted half orange and half yellow and then drew a read smear down the center you'd rightly call it crap; but when Mark Rothko did expressed something and said something nobody had ever done before. What exactly I am not sure but when you see "Orange, Red, Yellow" you do react to it. The fact that someone was willing to put it out there and assert, this can be art, makes it special in a way no derivative work ever can be; its similar with Catcher.

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  14. Re:That's terrible... Salinger won't write any mor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Didn't stop Tupac.

  15. Re:That's terrible... Salinger won't write any mor by VortexCortex · · Score: 4, Funny

    That is why Nobody is highly regarded as an expert witness in copyright cases.

  16. Re:That's terrible... Salinger won't write any mor by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    I'm thinking of changing my name to Nobody. Aside from causing general confusion I could easily make a living suing people for defamation. "Nobody would be that stupid" - now you owe me $$$ for damaging my reputation!

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  17. Re:that just takes the mystery back one step by PPH · · Score: 2

    how else to get a private fucking reading room for your book?

    Write it on the inside of a bathroom stall door?

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  18. Re:That's terrible... Salinger won't write any mor by beckett · · Score: 2

    Maybe Princeton shouldn't be in the business of playing gatekeeper to a dead man's paranoiac death wishes about publication. .

    what.cd admins took down the file out of respect to the author as well. Princeton's not the only gatekeeper in this story.

  19. Re: That's terrible... Salinger won't write any m by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2

    Yes.

    Crap.

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  20. Re:Soo...verified? by 192_kbps · · Score: 2
    From CNN:

    So, could this be legit? Los Angeles Times book critic David L. Ulin says yes.

    "I've never read "The Ocean Full of Bowling Balls": It's part of a collection of Salinger material at the Princeton University library and available only to scholars who are supervised as they read," he said in the online edition of the paper. "I have read the other two stories, however, at the University of Texas' Ransom Center, and the versions of them in 'Three Stories' are the real deal."

    Another affirmation comes from Salinger scholar Kenneth Slawenski, author of "J.D. Salinger: A Life," who talked with BuzzFeed.

    "While I do quibble with the ethics (or lack of ethics) in posting the Salinger stories, they look to be true transcripts of the originals and match my own copies," Slawenski told BuzzFeed in an e-mail.

    Princeton had it's own theories on how the stories could have made it to the public.

    "The story is probably an unauthorized version transcribed longhand in our reading room," said Martin Mbugua, a Princeton spokesman. "It's also possible that it came from photocopies of the typescript probably made before the mid-1980s when we decided that we would no longer allow photo-duplication for any work by Salinger."