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JetBlue Launches Satellite-Based Inflight Wi-Fi

First time accepted submitter spineas writes "JetBlue is rolling out a new form of inflight Wi-Fi operating from satellites instead of ground-based cell towers. Up to eight times faster than traditional inflight Wi-Fi, it will enable users to stream video whilst in the air, something that is nearly impossible to do with current dial-up speed access in aircraft."

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  1. How many? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Sure perhaps a few people can stream video over this connection, but I really doubt one satellite link would hold up to even ten people using Netflix...

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    1. Re:How many? by Tiek00n · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Full disclosure: I work for the company that JetBlue is partnered with to provide the satellite link, and I work on this project specifically.

      There was a media flight yesterday morning that had a bunch of aviation press on it, all trying to push the system to its limits. Here's what one blogger had to say: "Speedtests proved that the WiFi remained fast, registering between 12-28 Mbps, even with over 60 devices connected and pushing activities like Netflix Instant, Google Video Hangouts, Ustream live streaming, and Skype calls." Engadget also has more details about the media flight.

      There are obviously a lot of posts about the service, but out of the ~10 that I read those had the most details about Wednesday morning's actual flight.

    2. Re:How many? by Tiek00n · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think I've seen sub 600ms, but on the order of 800ms may be more typical? Maybe around a second? I was on flights a few months back so I don't remember the numbers offhand. Coming from a cable connection at home I expected to find the lag to be a bit more bothersome than it was, but that could be a function of my activities (with video/audio streaming, the delay doesn't matter as much). Geo satellites are 22,000 mi up, so that's 500+ms of travel time. Which actually makes 600ms seem less realistic, so maybe that wasn't a real number. Sorry for a rambling response that doesn't really answer the question.

    3. Re:How many? by stonebit · · Score: 2

      Earth to Sat is about 100ms. Round trip (plane to sat to earth dish to server to dish to sat to plane) with internet and server latency adds up to about 500-600ms. Communications are half that (time for your data to get to your friend), which is not bad since 200ms is when humans start to notice delay. No gaming, but websites and streaming will be fine.

  2. Re:So, about Slashdot by Typical+Slashdotter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How would you like Slashdot to cover this? It's clearly within their scope, and they never claimed to have original journalism for these sorts of things, so they're left linking to other people's coverage. What Slashdot brings to the table is gathering these sorts of stories in one place and (more importantly) the comment section.

  3. Congratulations! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Now they can join american, united, lufhansa, and all the other carriers that have sat based wifi.

    1. Re:Congratulations! by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2

      I think you misread that.

      First, during the trial period, it's free. There is no comment as to how much it will cost after June 2014. Second, it's $9 per hour. So $18 to watch, say, a two hour movie. A bit pricey, methinks.

    2. Re:Congratulations! by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nope, the basic service is actually free. The streaming plan initially free but will be charged at 9/hr later. Here is their pamplet and a news source talking about this

  4. "Wi-Fi operating from satellites" by bob_super · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't even get my laptop to connect from the corner of the garden. That's some serious WiFi power!

    1. Re:"Wi-Fi operating from satellites" by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Netgear router has been taped to the satellite for months, but it was only last week that they were able to attach the Pringles can.

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  5. Re:Why can't people just enjoy the peace and quiet by erice · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why can't people just relax and enjoy the peace and quiet ?

    Why must they bring all those hustle and bustle into one of the last quiet spaces left ?

    What peace and quiet? Airline cabins are noisy (what do think noise canceling headphones were invented for?) and uncomfortable. Some of us can sleep through this after a fashion. Others would much rather get work done so they have to time to relax somewhere that is actually relaxing.

  6. Speed Test 20 Mb/s by Poisonous+Drool · · Score: 5, Informative

    My friend did a speed test on JetBlue today and got 20 Mb/s. He isn't very technical so I assume he did the test on his iPhone or iPad. He said there was over 100 devices connected on his flight. He's a JB pilot but was in the back on this flight. He said the service is free until April. Take it for what it is worth.

  7. Re:So this means I shouldn't... by isorox · · Score: 2

    Streaming video over in-flight WiFi? So this means I shouldn't check my notebook?

    Sadly more and more people refuse to check any bags, leading to flights over boarding first, massive problems in the overhead bins, high stress, and delayed flights.

  8. Re:Why can't people just enjoy the peace and quiet by Solozerk · · Score: 2

    Why should we be forced to ?
    Don't get me wrong, I usually sleep or read entertainment stuff (recently for me: either Pratchett or Iain M Banks - I heartily recommend his excellent Culture cycle, BTW) on airplanes, but what this is about is giving people choice in the matter. If you want to relax and "enjoy the peace and quiet", fine ! if you want to connect to the global planetary network, be it for work reasons or entertainment too, you should be given the choice.

    I get what you're saying - but you can't say to people they *have* to relax just because they're traveling. I've co-founded and currently lead a small computer sciences startup and given the choice, I'd much prefer to read or sleep when I'm in an airplane. However, there were several times when I *had* to work (in my current job as well as the previous, more traditional / employed one) during travel to make sure I was ready upon arriving, just because I didn't have time before that to do it

    Basically, what I'm saying here is: the more choice people have, the better. They might use the network to read their favorite news site (slashdot or some twitter feeds or other), or they might use the network to work, or they might simply relax using an old-fashioned book. The point is, if you add Internet connectivity to your flight, you are simply giving them more choice in the matter, which is good in my book.

  9. I don't know who you've been flying... by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

    But the last time I paid for wifi in flight (one of the gogo services on Delta, IIRC) it was way faster than dial-up speed. I was easily able to check email, read the news, search for research papers, and download relevant items during my previous 2.5 hour flight. If it were at dial-up speed I would not have been able to even finish downloading the first of several papers that I found during that flight.

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  10. Re:Why can't people just enjoy the peace and quiet by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

    Why can't people just relax and enjoy the peace and quiet ?

    Relax? Not if you're over 5'6" or the person sitting next to you weighs more than 150 lbs. Airline seats are some of the least comfortable places I ever go; I've been more comfortable in porta-potties. If I can't rest I might as well get some work done (provided of course my battery holds out, as I can never seem to get planes with AC for charging my laptop). Bring on the wifi, I say.

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  11. Re:So this means I shouldn't... by Tiek00n · · Score: 2

    There are airlines that charge you for each carry-on that you have. I know Spirit Airlines does this, and I've heard that there are others but I'm not sure which.

  12. Service is Viasat AKA Wildblue by storkus · · Score: 2

    http://www.viasat.com/news/high-speed-internet-now-flying-jetblue-launches-service-using-viasat-high-capacity-ka-band-broadband

    I remember reading this a year ago or so when the home service launched, but I guess /. missed it. This kind of portable/mobile use is being heavily marketed for homeland security, SNG (Satellite News Gathering), and other high-end markets, while they continue to give the middle finger to RVers, truckers, etc--I guess the home system is locked to the spotbeam its activated on so you can't roam outside it, unlike HughesNet. Personally, I'd love their little portable flyaway system, but at a price of $20k or so, oh well.