YouTube Expands Live Streaming To All Channels

An anonymous reader writes "YouTube today announced it is expanding its live streaming service to all YouTube channels. The Google-owned company now only has two requirements: your account must be verified and it has to be in good standing. If you have both, but don't see the feature yet, don't worry as it's rolling out 'over the next few weeks.' YouTube Live was previously only available to a small number of individuals and YouTube partners whom Google deemed worthy to test it out. The video site then opened up the feature to channels with at least 1,000 subscribers, and then at least 100 subscribers. Now it's available to all."

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Elephant in the room

[rsilvergun]

Right here.

Re:Elephant in the room

[Black LED]

Google has been slowly making Youtube worse. First they get rid of channel customization, then they get rid of the ability to have a background image, then they start repeatedly asking for your real name and most recently they make it a requirement that you have a Google+ account to upload videos or to post comments.

Vimeo, Blip and Twitch are looking better every day.

Re:Elephant in the room

[tlhIngan]

Google has been slowly making Youtube worse. First they get rid of channel customization, then they get rid of the ability to have a background image, then they start repeatedly asking for your real name and most recently they make it a requirement that you have a Google+ account to upload videos or to post comments.

Vimeo, Blip and Twitch are looking better every day.

It's even worse for content creators. Dave Jones (EEVBlog) rants about the changes that affect content creators. These include changes to the commenting system such that it's practically impossible to do a proper reply, including notifications when new comments are posted. Even worse is that all the stuff you get notified about now only happens via G+.

And Twitch is only good for gaming videos - as PS4 owners found out using the camera accessory. At one point Twitch had to ban uploads from PS4s for it, and now they've hidden those links until they're manually approved.

Vimeo might be the best alternative.

Re:Elephant in the room

[firex726]

Actually Vimeo expressly prohibits gaming related videos.

http://vimeo.com/help/guidelines
> No screen-captures of video games or gameplay videos, even if edited.

Actual game developers are the only exception.

Re:Elephant in the room

[jones_supa]

Dave Jones (EEVBlog) rants about the changes that affect content creators. These include changes to the commenting system such that it's practically impossible to do a proper reply, including notifications when new comments are posted. Even worse is that all the stuff you get notified about now only happens via G+.

Some of his complaints were fixed. It's possible to reply normally now. What still bugs is that to see the parent comment by clicking the "in reply to (name)", the whole video page reloads. In the past, it did not.

Re:Elephant in the room

[jones_supa]

What is DASH?

Re:Elephant in the room

[Stalks]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Adaptive_Streaming_over_HTTP

It is worth mentioning that the Youtube Center browser extension can disable DASH and make many other improvements to Youtube's interface. Firefox Chrome

There is likely to be an exodus of Youtube.

[Zombie Ryushu]

There is likely to be an exodus of Youtube. The thing is, that Youtube's current Copyright regime will destroy Youtube. Youtube is fast becoming a site where we are all gullty until Proven innocent, or guilty until guilty no matter what. Hopefully, other sites will appear and take Youtube's place. Even Mark from Classic Game Room is leaving.

Re:There is likely to be an exodus of Youtube.

[phantomfive]

Hopefully, other sites will appear and take Youtube's place.

This is why Youtube will still be around. There are already plenty of other sites, but even people like you who are frustrated with Youtube are unaware of those s ites.

Re: There is likely to be an exodus of Youtube.

[andy_spoo]

Very unlikely. YouTube is integrated in to most modern media products e.g. TV's, bluray players, consoles etc. On these, these is pretty much no alternative. And for most end users, it works well. And any alternative that exists, is likely to be sued out of existence by copywrite holders for using game content without permission etc. Google are just covering there arse. It's a business, with a product you've been happily using for free for years. If it were owned by Apple, trust me, it'd be way more limited and protective. You'd probably have to wait for months for your videos to be 'approved', before being listed.

Re:There is likely to be an exodus of Youtube.

[unixisc]

It was started in San Bruno, CA, so where did you expect them to host it? If they were to move it to India, everyone would be screaming foul!

yay!!

[wbr1]

Live cat videos!

Re:yay!!

[c0lo]

Live cat videos!

What???... Is this the new section of the amateur streaming adult entertainment channel?

(ducks)

Re:yay!!

[fustakrakich]

Live cop videos! They can't steal your film anymore.

Re:yay!!

[wonkey_monkey]

Even better than that...

(if you can stomach installing Silverlight)

Re:yay!!

[antdude]

Where? :P

Google is hoping

[phantomfive]

Google is hoping they can get Twitch's customers without actually having to buy Twitch. Good luck, why would anyone stream from Youtube?

Re:Google is hoping

[bill_mcgonigle]

why would anyone stream from Youtube?

Because they want to see the content that's being offered. Why is this a question?

Oh really?

[tanveer1979]

Can you let me know of some sites where I can host my videos for free, and also earn a share of the advertising?
Youtube is more or less the only option.

Stopped using gmail two months ago

[Adult film producer]

And I will not willingly place my business associates in a high risk situation using google products. I will not use any of their other services any further.

Re:Stopped using gmail two months ago

[Ksevio]

Why is Google a "high risk situation"? They've been around for quite a while.

Wirecast for YouTube

[Jonah Hex]

Anyone seen if Wirecast is still part of the package?

Wirecast for YouTube is Here!

11 April 2012 - Finally we can talk about it! YouTube announced some significant improvements to YouTube Live, and Wirecast for YouTube is one of them! YouTube Partners who are authorized for livestreaming can now download Wirecast for YouTube free of charge, enjoy the gorgeous and intuitive UI, and stream their content directly to YouTube.

Re:Too little too late.

[Anne Thwacks]

Unfortunately, Twitch does not have any content (apart from games).

Re:Too little too late.

[firex726]

And on the mobile you cannot watch past broadcasts, only live ones; and not offered on the PS3.

Meanwhile damn near anything with a screen or that can output to one will have a Youtube app on it.

Youtube? What's Youtube?

[Rosco P. Coltrane]

When Google started shoving G+ down everyYoutube user's throat, I abandoned my 10+ year old Youtube account and moved all my videos to Vimeo and Dailymotion.

Youtube is Google is a privacy nightmare.

The last video I posted on Youtube before letting my account go derelict is a static image with a text describing why I will upload my videos elsewhere, and where to find them, and that video got many, MANY likes and comments from upset users. To me, that says I'm far from being the only Youtube user who's sickened by what Google has turned it into.

Re:Youtube? What's Youtube?

[unixisc]

My biggest beef w/ them was that videos that were uploaded couldn't exceed 10 or 15 minutes, or some such arbitrary limit.

Re:Youtube? What's Youtube?

[cayenne8]

Can you provide any examples where the privacy of Youtube/G+ is worse than that of Vimeo? Both want you to provide a Name and an Email address. Both use cookies to track you. And how comes you consider the need for a G+ account a bad thing, but a facebook/Vimeo account is OK?

Interesting.

I do not have a G+ account (nor twitter, nor FB, nor Pinterest, etc), but I have my YouTube account. And, while they do ask for a name or did awhile back ask to join G+, I just ignored that and they let me keep my account that I started with a non-gmail account.

I'd not known that you now had to have a G+ account to have a YouTube acct. Interesting.

It's an interesting development

[93 Escort Wagon]

Several month ago we set up a server to live stream some of our faculty lectures. Now we'll have to look into whether it makes sense to continue running our own server - it's not like YouTube is unreliable or costs us anything, and we already post the recordings on our YouTube channel afterward.

But I must admit the ham-handed attempts by Google to force you into maintaining a Google+ presence to go along with your YouTube channel is highly annoying! And I do wonder if yet another shoe will be dropping soon. If Google thought they could force everyone to share their YouTube videos from their Google+ pages without killing their cash cow, I'm sure they'd have done it by now. At present, all they've succeeded at is annoying people.

Re:It's an interesting development

[Anonymous Coward]

Just remember that YouTube will be showing ads to your students, and some of those ads are unskippable.

Is that the corporate/educational image you want for your institution? Students should not be distracted by advertising when they go to your website to watch lectures for classes.

I strongly encourage you to pull the plug from YouTube and host your own video material. It's VERY easy to do these days, just encode up the video in the right format and use one of the many open source player "widgets" (for want of a better word) to show them on your site.

Re:It's an interesting development

[Dr. Zim]

But I must admit the ham-handed attempts by Google to force you into maintaining a Google+ presence to go along with your YouTube channel is highly annoying!

You can always make a G+ account just for the purpose of youtube, yet never use it for anything else, right?

Re:It's an interesting development

[fluffythdestroy]

yes but people don't seem to get that. I did just that so it's not really a big problem. I don't take care of my G+ account. And honestly, you just gotta be careful with what you upload nowadays. You HAVE to make sure you got permission to use someone elses work. This means, uploaders HAVE to work and stop being lazy and bitchy. I do make faire share of work and upload video game commentary and I never got a strike (yet). If i do, then I didn't check everyone...plain and simple. thats how it works...

Re:It's an interesting development

[ganjadude]

Using ad block and no script I havent seen an add on youtube in, well i dont think ive ever seen one before.

Re:It's an interesting development

[dj245]

This is a huge pain in the ass. I am attending university part time and their email system uses Gmail. Switching back and forth between my main Google profile and my school email is usually a painful process, one which often dumps me into error pages, redirect loops, or back to a homepage. Other open tabs are automatically logged out of one account when I switch to the other.

Re:It's an interesting development

[tlhIngan]

You can always make a G+ account just for the purpose of youtube, yet never use it for anything else, right?

Yet if you do not enable multiple account signins, Google will be more than happy to merge your accounts together. It's constantly asking even post-merge if I want to keep my youtube signin and name versus using my G+ profile.

This is a huge pain in the ass. I am attending university part time and their email system uses Gmail. Switching back and forth between my main Google profile and my school email is usually a painful process, one which often dumps me into error pages, redirect loops, or back to a homepage. Other open tabs are automatically logged out of one account when I switch to the other.

There's a setting to enable multiple account signins - I use it as I have a Gmail and a GApps account which are separate from each other (The GApps came from an friend's hosting account who moved all the stuff to Google). In the personal profile, go to your settings and enable multiple sign-in (it's off by default presuming you want to avoid the situation where you have a few dozen tabs all logged in and mass confusion). Just enable it, then log out of both accounts. Log into your main account then open a new tab and you should be able to log into your school account.

Re:It's an interesting development

[93 Escort Wagon]

Education Apps customers actually have the option of not allowing ads to be included with their YouTube videos.

At this point in time, in any case.

I'm Unfamiliar

[Anonymous Coward]

Can someone explain to me how this service compares to the likes of UStream or Twitch.tv?
What is this YouTube service intended to be used for?
How is it better or worse than the previously mentioned services?

This news + Chromecast = Awesome!

[Kevoco]

I welcome the opportunity to view live content via Chromecast!

YouTube playback issues

[spaceyhackerlady]

Indeed. That will, eventually, kill YouTube far more effectively than intrusive ads or changes in terms of service.

I first noticed playback issues earlier this year. Everybody is complaining about it. The support forums are full of platitudes about updating plugins and flushing one's cache. None of which makes any difference: YouTube is broken. And if it doesn't actually work, i.e. deliver content, the advertising is going to be irrelevant.

My preferred browser is Chrome, BTW. If YouTube doesn't work properly with Google's own browser, we're in big trouble.

...laura

Dailymotion is where they're going

[rsilvergun]

Classic Game Room moved there, and has their own site (www.classicgameroom.com). The trouble I have is I miss seeing him in my youtube subscription feed :(

Realites of business today

[nurb432]

Not to give them a free pass, but this 'guilty until proven innocent' is a byproduct of the entertainment industries. If you don't operate this way you WILL be sued by them, and if you are small ( your new start-ups you are wishing for ) you will go out of business. If you are large it will eat away at your bottom line and your board will complain.

My hunch is that Google execs could really care less what is on YouTube personally, and really hate spending the extra resources playing 'copyright cop' but they don't have much of a choice.

My Vimeo issue

[justthinkit]

I tried to upload a video to Vimeo. After the initial upload they _warned_ me that my video was below their guidelines when it came to framerate, which is true. Since my video had no motion in it, just a hundred or so images, I didn't see the issue. Plus they did _not_ say they were rejecting or stopping the rest of the process (whereby they convert the video or whatever they do). Instead they said they were processing it...and the status stayed this week for several weeks (until I gave up checking). I also emailed them about this video and received no response.

Much as I like the quality of Vimeo, this kind of treatment makes me not want to bother trying to upload anything more there.