Google's Dart Becomes ECMA's Dart

mikejuk writes "Google's Dart just reached version 1.0, but now it seems that it has aspirations to being an international standard. The question is will this make any difference to the language's future? Given that Google effectively owns Dart, what advantage does standardization bring? The answer to what Google thinks it brings is indicated in the Chromium blog: 'The new standardization process is an important step towards a future where Dart runs natively in web browsers.' and this seems reasonable. A standard is something that would be required before other browser makers decided to fall in line and support native Dart. It is probably a necessary but far from sufficient condition, however, with Microsoft, Apple and Mozilla having other interests to further. Last but not least, having the backing of a standard might just encourage possible users to believe that the language won't sink if Google gets distracted with other projects and decides that Dart is dispensable. However, a strong open source development community capable of supporting Dart without Google's input would be a better reassurance. If you want to help, Google would like you to join the committee. After all, it still doesn't have a Vice Chair. So can we expect to see ECMA CoffeeScript or TypeScript in the near future? Probably not."

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OK, I'll bite

[Hognoxious]

WTF is Google Dart?

Re:OK, I'll bite

[hairyfeet]

Actually I'd say in its current form its better because 1.- Their image search seems to be better at giving you what you are looking for which probably ties to 2.- the SEO scum don't seem to be able to "game" the results nearly as bad with Bing as they can with Google.

Now is it because Bing is better at blocking the SEOs, or is it because Google is a juicer target than Bing so you have like Windows versus Linux more targeting the former than the latter? Who knows, all I personally care about is the results and I get a hell of a lot less "Miley Cyrus iPod iPhone (insert what you searched for here) Android Tablet designer handbags" SEO spam and a lot more of what I'm actually looking for with Bing than I do Google. Hell the last time i tried to find a product review for an obscure product on Google all i got was SEO spam.

As for TFA? Unless its taken over by somebody else? Sorry, kinda don't trust Google at this point, not after they changed their TOS and started bugging the shit out of me to tie my real name to everything so badly i had to set up a separate Gmail just for my Android phone and a separate browser on my desktop for YouTube just to keep from getting the "Are you SURE you don't want your real name used?" bullshit constantly. Yes I know you have to please the stockholders Google but you used to be this cool mad scientist "throw shit and see what sticks" kinda company, now you are coming off as kinda creepy and stalkerish. Cut it out,okay? No means no.

Re:OK, I'll bite

[hairyfeet]

You got a stalker too? Welcome to the club, mine comes and goes, and has followed me all over the net. It is one of the reasons why i think ACs should be banned or at the very least make it trivial for users to block AC posts in the formatting. After all if they are too damned lazy to spend a whole 3 minutes making an account, can be as anon (by filling it in with BS) as the AC but would make them stand by their posts? then they are trolls and not worth wasting time with.

And dude, no ofense, but you should REALLY get a better source than batshit PJ at groklaw, okay? if PJ said it was snowing I'd want a second opinion. Look up the rants she posted during the whole Apple cloner bit to see how REALLY fucking nuts she is, she actually wrote that the fly by night company that was making clone Apple boxen was "A plot by MSFT to kill FOSS" and had a conspiracy theory that would make old twitter proud. So I really wouldn't take a bit of stock in a single thing posted at groklaw, she is just too batshit dude.

As far as google? no means FUCKING NO, and THAT is what pisses me off. if I say "I don't want that" and go out of my way to make it clear that I REALLY don't want that, quit fucking bothering me, okay? all it has gotten google in the case of me and my family is bullshit accounts made for our phones and separate browsers for video watching that likewise don't have our real Gmail accounts. Oh and in my case i've switched my emails over to yahoo and now use my Gmail as a spamdump.

I mean really, how hard is it to respect the fucking user's wishes? they can talk shit but MSFT actually respected my wishes, i said what i did and didn't want in Bing and ya know what? Haven't heard another word from MSFT about it. And I sure as fuck don't get a "would you let us use your real name so we can market your ass, please?" every damned time I check out a KB article, which is a hell of a lot more than i can say for fricking google!