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SpaceX Wins Use of NASA's Launch Pad 39A

SpaceX and NASA have reached an agreement (though negotiations on the details are ongoing) for the private space company to lease NASA's launch pad 39A. SpaceX rival Blue Origin had also sought the launch pad for its own use. From the article: "During the selection process, Blue Origin had filed a petition to the Government Accountability Office (GAO). The spaceflight company was claiming that NASA was favoring single-use of the launch pad which was designed as a multi-user facility. ... The GAO decided on Thursday that the petition has no basis, which prompted NASA to proceed with its decision process. The next day, the space agency informed both companies that it is granting the exclusive lease to SpaceX."

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  1. Re:When would Space-X launch a moon expedition ? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    China has just landed their space craft on the moon. Just hours ago.

    When will Space-X do that ?

    SpaceX is a commercial "lift" company. Their objective would include landing something on the moon only if someone paid them to do it.

    SpaceX is challenging Lockheed Martin and Boeing's United Launch Alliance

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  2. Re:Dunkin Donuts Correlation by game+kid · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, and retro's post appears to be an "Unrelated Comment Object" sent from the young pulsar YRO 2155215.

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  3. Re: No, not good at all. by Guspaz · · Score: 5, Informative

    You mean, like how Blue Origin tried to hobble SpaceX by securing a launchpad they had no use for?

    SpaceX has 39 launches on their manifest, and has completed 9 successful orbital launches. They will probably get a whole bunch more once they complete the Falcon Heavy demo flight.

    Blue Origin has zero launches on their manifest, zero successful orbital launches, and no firm timeline for when they might complete their first orbital rocket except that it appears to be in early development.

    In short, Blue Origin had no conceivable use for the pad, except for a possible use in the long-term. I think what was actually going on there is that the United Launch Alliance, which had a near-monopoly on US launches until recently, was using Blue Origin as a proxy (co-sponsoring the bid) to try to hurt SpaceX, who is offering strong competition and forcing them to lower their prices.

  4. Re:Good by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That should not be for NASA to decide. Instead of having a "selection process", they should simply hold an auction. The launch pad should be rented to the highest bidder.

    Bullshit.

    The launch pad should be rented to the company that has the most potential to actually use it for something useful like launching rockets.

    It's not a hotel room or a luxury car, it's a piece of valuable high technology. It's not a toy for rent.

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  5. Re:Watch out by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's also unreasonable to expect SpaceX to be able to reach the moon right out of the gate.

    Well... in Kerbal Space Program...

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  6. Re:Watch out by ustolemyname · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Falcon_9_launches, someone has already contracted with them to deliver a payload to the moon (fifth from the bottom of the list).

  7. Re: No, not good at all. by Teancum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This article is not the only report or for that matter even news agency that has reported on this topic. Blue Origin has indeed zero customers at the moment who want to use their services, and the contract is only for five years anyway before it is up for renegotiation.... at which time Blue Origin can try to put forward something of their own that actually can fly.

    Elon Musk was so cocky about the whole thing that he offered at his own expense (or the expense of SpaceX and not NASA) to accommodate Blue Origin or for that matter any other American company that might want to use this launch pad for their own projects (referring also to United Launch Alliance). Furthermore, Mr. Musk speculated that the likelihood of Blue Origin actually qualifying according to FAA-AST standards necessary for human spaceflight (which is the only point of using this launch pad as opposed to other locations that certainly are available including at the Kennedy Space Complex at Florida) in the next five years is about as likely as seeing dancing unicorns in that same flame duct.

    I have to agree with Mr. Musk on this point too. It isn't just a matter of Blue Origin spending megabucks to build their own launch facility, of which SpaceX has gone through and built three launch pads besides this one and is shopping around for a fourth launch pad in addition to this launch pad (that one is likely to be in Brownsville, Texas), but that Blue Origin is also not really capable of using this particular facility at all.

    The whole point of this legal action is to try and delay any potential launches that SpaceX might do at this particular launch pad. SpaceX needs it for both the Falcon Heavy rocket as well and manned launches in particular. It also can act as a back-up site if SLC-40 (the other Florida pad that SpaceX currently operates) needs to go through a period of renovation.

    There are another 38 other potential launch sites in the area that are suitable to various degrees or other for spaceflight activity. Some of them certainly are not really suitable and others are in such utter state of disrepair as to be essentially carving out a new spot in the swampland of Cape Canaveral, but there are other locations if the desire was made. There is also pad 39B, but that is currently being used by NASA for the SLS/Orion program as long as that program continues to get funding.

  8. Re:How is the Falcon Heavy assembled? by Teancum · · Score: 4, Informative

    The point of 39A as a SpaceX facility, at least the speculation I've seen (SpaceX hasn't said anything official about it), is the facilities which are in place for crewed launches. As far as I've heard and seen in other articles about the topic, they are not purchasing a berth in the VAB (vehicle Assembly Building), thus there will be no need for the crawler/tractor that you are talking about.

    It should also be pointed out that the launch pad was going to be abandoned anyway, and before SpaceX put in a bid for the pad the previous plan for the site was simply to let it "rust in place" and sit without any maintenance at all. Neither Blue Origin nor ULA had any interest in the site until SpaceX spoke up asking about it. Do you think a rusting piece of metal on the tour circuit of KSC is a good use of this site instead of seeing people fly into space on new rockets?