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Datawind Not Blowing Smoke: $38 Tablet Coming To the US

BigVig209 writes "In a follow-up to a story we discussed in May, the Chicago Tribune is reporting that London-based Datawind it will begin selling its $38 UbiSlate tablet computer in the U.S. early next year. 'The $38 7-inch touchscreen UbiSlate 7Ci tablet runs on Google's Android 4.0 and features a 1-gigahertz, single-core processor. It has 4 gigabytes of storage with microSD card slots for additional storage. The 7-inch display offers a resolution of 800x480 pixels.' The specs aren't the greatest, fastest, or most powerful, but, for under $50, they're still pretty decent."

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  1. classroom tools by Moheeheeko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With those being cheaper than most textbooks, I think we can see more e-textbooks being popular in the future.

    1. Re:classroom tools by bobbied · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Have you priced E-Text books lately? Maybe it's because I'm looking at college level stuff, but they get a LOT of money just to let you use their book for 6 months and a whole lot more to get the book forever. I just don't see that happening until the publishers back off the rental prices.

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    2. Re:classroom tools by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Informative

      Which will of course be FAR more expensive than the textbooks were.

      I don't get the impression that e-textbooks ever actually save anybody money as the publishers just jack up the prices.

      I knew someone who worked in a library, and they got all excited about e-books, only to realize they spent about 50% or more of the annual book buying budget to get it set up and get just a half a dozen e-books. They ended up with far far less than if they'd bought traditional books, because they'd have been able to buy hundreds of books for what they spent.

      At the end of the day, it makes more money for the publisher, but a small community library got absolutely burned in the process, and only ended up with a handful of books, and limited benefit

      I can't imagine school boards would fare any better.

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    3. Re:classroom tools by Moheeheeko · · Score: 4, Informative

      The last ebook I purchased for school was $20, compared to the print copy that was $210, then again that was 5 years ago

    4. Re:classroom tools by steveha · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm hoping to see a trend where professors or graduate students write new textbooks and just contribute them to the public domain. Inexpensive tablets plus free textbooks means inexpensive education.

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4123035&cid=44658533

      It's still early days with ebooks, really. The publishers want to keep the prices high, but the barriers to entry into the market are low. Free textbooks will disrupt the pricing model.

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    5. Re:classroom tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The last 'ebook' I bought was for an astrophysics class. A mandatory $190 license to access a textbook online for three months. By Pearson of course. No one should be pleased with how things are going.

    6. Re:classroom tools by murdocj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, because of course people will do hundreds of hours of work for free. Personally, I'm looking forward to the trend where random people send me enough money that I can retire.

    7. Re:classroom tools by narcc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, because of course people will do hundreds of hours of work for free.

      They will, as it turns out. You'll find countless examples on the internet. Not everyone is as selfish as you.

    8. Re:classroom tools by MBGMorden · · Score: 2

      The problem is that SOMEONE will do that, but usually for most classes you don't just need a random textbook on the subject - you need a specific one that is normally chosen by the professor. Sometimes they have "incentives" to mandate a textbook from a certain publisher or sometimes they make a book that they wrote the mandatory textbook so that they get all the royalties.

      I ended up buying a lot of my books at Half.com back when I was in school because I could get them cheaper used there (just had to make do without the book for the first week or so of class while I waited for it to come in). I also could generally sell my used books there for more than the campus bookstore was offering.

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    9. Re:classroom tools by pepty · · Score: 2

      What happens when the department is told to fill the hole in its budget with revenue from textbook sales? Profs (in the US) are going to come under increasing pressure to use materials that generate revenue for their school.

    10. Re:classroom tools by steveha · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, because of course people will do hundreds of hours of work for free.

      It would be deliciously ironic if you used a free software web browser such as Firefox to type the above comment.

      Graduate students and professors need to "publish or perish". I'm hoping that at least some of them will use at least some of their publishing time to write free textbooks.

      And, anyway, people are already writing books and giving them away. Take a look at BookBoon:

      http://bookboon.com/en/textbooks-ebooks

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    11. Re:classroom tools by steveha · · Score: 2

      The Marxist utopia never will arrive. Communism doesn't work.

      But people do occasionally contribute their time to projects such as Firefox, Linux, or Wikipedia. (All it takes is for their satisfaction to be greater than the perceived costs to them.)

      You don't have to tell me to pay for textbooks I want... I've been buying O'Reilly ebooks like a junkie lately. But there are a lot of kids who could use free textbooks if they were available, and mark my words, people will write those textbooks over time.

      If even one free textbook of good quality was released per year, it wouldn't take many years before a basic education could be done with only free textbooks. And there are a lot of people in the world who aren't starving but are trapped in crushing poverty. Returning full circle to my original comment, I'd like to see OLPC focus on the education part and stop trying to make their own hardware. They can do more good by making educational software and writing textbooks, and trusting that mass-market mobile devices will be inexpensive enough and work well enough.

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    12. Re:classroom tools by narcc · · Score: 2

      The incredulity that the parent expressed at the very prospect of laboring exclusively for the benefit of others implies that he's very selfish. So selfish, in fact, that he cannot even comprehend the idea that others would act selflessly.

    13. Re:classroom tools by Immerman · · Score: 2

      Also worth mentioning that even if no money changes hands it's not necessarily for free - academia if heavily vested in reputation, and having your book be the one that a generation of students learned from is a feather your cap.

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    14. Re:classroom tools by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So everyone who doesn't donate hundreds of hours of work for free is selfish?

      In my opinion, yes. Everyone should make time in their life to improve the world in some way.

      Just out of curiosity, what do YOU donate?

      1. I spend several hours a week teaching Scratch programming to 3rd-6th graders.
      2. I volunteer as a math tutor at my son's elementary school for two hours per week.
      3. I am a member of the "Ten Gallon Club" at the Red Cross blood center (80 one pint donations).
      4. I have written several free educational apps for iPads and Android Tablets, and plan to write many more.
      5. My wife and I funded a scholarship for two Naxi girls to attend a university.

    15. Re:classroom tools by martas · · Score: 2

      Oh my god, nothing has ever been more wrong than what you just said. It might be true in some tiny field I've never heard of, but in my areas many of the biggest names have books to their name. For someone who knows their shit to write a book is a great service to the community, because it consolidates knowledge and facilitates its use and transmission (be it for teaching or research).

    16. Re:classroom tools by Belial6 · · Score: 2

      If he lives in the US like me, he DOES pay for it. We pay huge amounts of money for education. hundreds of thousands of education 'experts' are on the government payroll. Expecting the government to use the hundreds of billions of dollars that go into education to write a few books is not being a "whiny entitlist whiny entitlist complaining that everything should be handed to you for free".

  2. Cheap Smartglass Controller by sporkboy · · Score: 3, Funny

    After MS clears you out for an XB One, you can buy a cheap tablet for their Smartglass "second screen" app.

    1. Re:Cheap Smartglass Controller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Almost never except these apps including the one GP mentions. Seriously, did you not google?

      https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Microsoft+Corporation&hl=en_GB

  3. Always late by evilviper · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Datawind is always late to the party. They make big annoucements about incredibly inexpensive items years in the future to generate interest. Then by the time they're actually selling something, everyone else has passed them by. Even now, you can pickup a tablet with similar specs from walmart for $50. By the time we see any DW tablets on the shelves, several companies will be selling $40 tablets, or better.

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  4. Re:Capacitive or Resistive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
  5. Garbage by ilsaloving · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've purchased two barrel-bottom-scraping androids so far (not this model), with the expectation that that should be able to satisfy very basic needs like ebook reading.

    I was wrong.

    These 'landfill android' devices garbage in every possible way. Battery life is so poor that you can't even even expect it to last a day on stand by. Yet performance is so poor that you have to wait a good several minutes just for the damn thing to boot up, so forget about quickly pulling it out while on the bus to read a few pages.
    And the wifi is so bad that it can't pick up a signal unless you have a router in the very same room, and even then you somehow don't get full bars.

    The only use I can see for this class of devices, is in BDSM scenarios:

    Master - Check my email, slave!
    Slave - Yes Master, thank you master! Oh, I can't connect to the server!
    Master - Are you telling me that you're failing me, you miserable wretch?
    Slave - Nuh Matha! Ih I puf mah tong oh he corneh, wifi worgs!
    Master - Good slave! Now play Words With Friends!
    Slave - *whimper*

  6. Re:NOW we're talking "ubiquitous" and "paperless" by Russ1642 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Picture them all with a device made by someone else.

  7. Re:Other OS? by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

    How difficult is it to install another version of Android on devices like this? I would love to use something like this as a console-on-the-go, but would hate to deal with advertising crap while I'm trying to do work.

    http://www.xda-developers.com/

    Your answer should be contained within.

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  8. Not garbage in EVERY way... by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Devices like these, and the equivalent devices in the phone arena, help keep Android "market share" figures nice and plump!

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  9. Re:Capacitive or Resistive? by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

    Personally, I would buy a $38 tablet provided it actually worked for a reasonable amount of time (1-2 years), and could do some basic tasks. I don't want to tote around my $500 tablet everywhere I go, but it would be nice to have a cheap device that I didn't care so much if I dropped it, or it got too cold and ceased to function. It doesn't have to be a replacement for the iPad or any other tablet at that price. People will buy an iPad (or similarly high priced tablet, like Galaxy Tab/Note or Surface2), as well as a cheap $40 tablet to take with them when they don't want to have something expensive on them. Same reason why many people who own a DSLR also have a cheap point and shoot. And same reason why I would buy that $15 Nokia phone if it ever sees the light of day. There are certain things people do where they don't want to be carrying around thousands of dollars of electronics.

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  10. Re:Cool by mark-t · · Score: 2

    A 40 inch diagonal screen has more than 16 times the area of an an ipad mini, which wouldn't exactly be very cheap.

  11. Re:Capacitive or Resistive? by unrtst · · Score: 5, Informative

    Has no one here shopped online?

    Here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3DC17C8972
    It's $44. Granted, that's $6 more, but that's certainly in the same ballpark, and it has (arguably) better specs (dual core, dual cameras, android 4.2, etc).

    Or here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0EJ-0019-00005
    This one is just $34.99. It's only 4.3", but it has a 1.2GHz A8, and Android 4.2.

    I don't know why this is making slashdot... 'el cheap-o tablets are already here in every form you could ask for. Most of the cheap ones sacrifice battery life first, which sucks, but corners must be cut if you're going to be the cheapest thing with a touchscreen... and in some cases, a short battery life is not a deal breaker (ex. car computer; kitchen wall mounted touch display; media controller; etc).

  12. Plenty of links if you just search by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    It's obviously true just from browsing numbers alone... but there's articles like this that say the same thing (in the phone/phablet world).

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  13. Re:uhh... by Minwee · · Score: 3, Funny

    AND it's Lenova!

    No good. I'm holding out for a genuine Sorny, Panaphonic or Magnetbox.

  14. More storage than an iPad by timeOday · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It has a MicroSD slot. Funny how only low-end devices are expandable these days.

  15. Re:Capacitive or Resistive? by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Informative

    That "$44" tablet has a shipping price of $23.

    Granted, shipping usually isn't free (even when listed as such it's built into the price of the item), but a $20+ shipping price is just a lie. They're building most of the item price into the shipping price to make it look cheaper.

    Yes the 4.3" device is actually $35 shipped but at that size I consider that a touch screen media player rather than a "tablet".

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  16. Re:Paper by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2

    Regular paperbacks are generally of noticeably higher quality than "Mass Market Paperbacks" (which are the small-ish versions sold in most supermarkets and such).

    The Mass Market variety aren't really designed to last. They're meant to be read once or twice (if ever) and if they tear up after that just toss them.

    If you're buying a book for a collection you want to buy a higher quality version.

    That said - I'm not sure why they charge what they do for the better versions. Barnes and noble puts out very good quality hard-cover versions of some public domain books for less than $10. That's generally less than the price difference between the MMPB and the hardcover version of most books, so you're actually paying a lot more than just the additional materials cost there.

    You're paying copyright fees. With the $10 books, the content is usually public domain, so you're only paying for the price of printing and cost of materials. When you're buying a paperback, you're purchasing the right to read the work for as long as the book lasts (which has been getting shorter and shorter on the mass market paperbacks). With the higher quality hardcover books, often printed on acid-free paper, you're purchasing the right to read the same content for as long as copyright lasts, barring accidental (or intentional) destruction of the book.

    Look at the Peterson's Field Guide for a paperback* that bucks this trend, and has a price to reflect it.

    *It's not really paper, as they use cotton and plastic in the material as well -- this is a book designed to be dropped in a duck pond or snagged on brambles and come out none the worse for wear.

  17. Physical size matters too by tepples · · Score: 2

    So, why should anyone buy this tablet instead of a three year old smart phone on eBay?

    Because not everybody likes to squint at tiny text.

  18. Re:Capacitive or Resistive? by geminidomino · · Score: 2

    I don't know if it was the crap hardware (it was Samsung, after all) or the crap software (it was a Samsung OEM Android, after all), but my experience with the Galaxy Note tablet was less than stellar, and they used, IIRC, a Wacom digitizer. For some reason, though, new out of the box, it suffered from horrible input lag.

    Okay, I'll be fair. It was "bad" input lag which was graduated to "horrible" in the face of the $500 price tag.
    Ended up returning it, getting a Transformer, and going back to waiting for a cheap-ish digitizer-equipped tablet for sketching.

  19. Re:Capacitive or Resistive? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

    displays the time, weather

    I have this app in my bathroom that displays the weather. It runs on Windows (yeah I know Windows sucks). All I have to do is look out of it. It also has a touch interface. I can doodle on it when it's a bit misted up.

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