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Scientific Data Disappears At Alarming Rate, 80% Lost In Two Decades

cold fjord writes "UPI reports, 'Eighty percent of scientific data are lost within two decades, disappearing into old email addresses and obsolete storage devices, a Canadian study (abstract, article paywalled) indicated. The finding comes from a study tracking the accessibility of scientific data over time, conducted at the University of British Columbia. Researchers attempted to collect original research data from a random set of 516 studies published between 1991 and 2011. While all data sets were available two years after publication, the odds of obtaining the underlying data dropped by 17 per cent per year after that, they reported. "Publicly funded science generates an extraordinary amount of data each year," UBC visiting scholar Tim Vines said. "Much of these data are unique to a time and place, and is thus irreplaceable, and many other data sets are expensive to regenerate.' — More at The Vancouver Sun and Smithsonian."

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  1. And in 20 years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And in 20 years, these results too shall be lost.

    1. Re:And in 20 years... by queazocotal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's not the point.
      The actual published results - even if published in an obscure journal tend to stick around _much_ more.

      Even old journals which go out of publication get their archives and the rights to distribute them bought - as there is some small amount of value there, in addition to the copies in the various reference libraries around the world.

      The problem is that if you are wondering about that graph on page 14 of the paper that the whole paper rests on, you can't get the original data to recreate that graph.

      This is a major problem because the only way to check that graph is now to redo the whole experiment.

  2. lulz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    thats okay, the nsa has a backup

  3. Concerning... by AdamColley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Trying to ignore that a paper about the unavailability of scientific data is locked behind a paywall.

    This is nothing new though, I do occasional conversion from ancient data formats, people need to pay better attention, imagine trying to read an 8" CP/M floppy today.

    As libraries move to digital storage rather than the dead tree that's been fine for thousands of years they are inviting a catastrophe, possibly only one well aimed solar mass ejection from massive data loss.

    1. Re:Concerning... by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Paper has its own issues. Talk to me about the durability of paper after you recover the books lost throughout time due to natural decay, burning (intentional or otherwise), floods, wars, and social forces (politics, religion, etc). Digital data can be easily copied and archived (when not behind a paywall, of course). It seems to me that redundancy is the best form of insurance against data loss. A solar mass is not going to wipe out every computer with a copy of important data on it, and all the relevant backups. And if it does, we're probably in a lot more trouble for reasons other than losing some scientific research.

      Besides which, I sort of wonder if scientific data also follows the 80/20 rule. If so, how much are we really losing? I'm only half joking, of course, since it's difficult to ascertain the value of research immediately in some cases, but wouldn't it stand to reason that any important or groundbreaking research will naturally be widely disseminated, and thus protected against loss?

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    2. Re:Concerning... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is not just an issue of digital storage, but also a problem of redundancy.

      In the "old days", people understood and accepted the risk that a paper copy would be lost. In fact, it was a GIVEN that they would eventually be lost (or damaged or misplaced or stolen or checked out and simply never returned). So multiple copies were kept because centuries of experience dictated that some copies would be lost no matter how strong, carefully maintained and well preserved the originals were.

      Nowadays, people simply think its a matter of "copy and paste". But, as you point out, its not. Different hardware formats on top of different software formats. The card catalog with its rigid but well defined categories was switched for a nebulous and vague "tagging" system. And god help you if the files are corrupted.

    3. Re:Concerning... by Eunuchswear · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Digital data can be easily copied and archived

      Can be. But mostly isn't.

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    4. Re:Concerning... by thunderclap · · Score: 3

      well dead tree has its own issues. Try finding a book written and published in 1910. Most likely you won't. The paper is so fragile that its has to specially sealed to survive. Rag paper on the other hand still looks good for its age.

    5. Re:Concerning... by clickclickdrone · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's still 100 years which is a lot better than the data being talked about here.

      There was a documentry on the radio this week about the loss of letter writing as a form and how alarmed biographers were getting because it's getting very hard to trace someone's life, thoughts, actions etc without a paper trail as stuff like emails, digital photos etc generally get lost when someone dies.

      Personally, I find the increasing rate of loss quite alarming - so much of our lives are digital and so little is properly curated with a view to future access. We know so much about the past from old documents, often hundreds if not thousands of years old but these days we're hard pushed to find something published ten years ago.

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    6. Re:Concerning... by _Shad0w_ · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'd go to one of the British deposit libraries and ask to see their copy; deposit libraries have existed since the Statute of Anne in 1710. The British Library has 28,765 books and 1,480 journals in its catalogue from 1910...

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    7. Re:Concerning... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Besides which, I sort of wonder if scientific data also follows the 80/20 rule. If so, how much are we really losing?

      Probably not that much. I'm not claiming this is good, but I don't htink it's as bad as it appears.

      If a paper is unimportant and more or less sinks without a trace (perhaps a handful of citations), then the data is probably of no importance since someone is unlikely to ever want it. Generally this is because papers tend to get more obscure over time and also get supereseded.

      For important papers, the data just isn't enough: is a paper is important then it will establish some technique or result. In 20 years people will have generally already reanalysed the data and likely also independently verified the result if it is important enough. After 20 years I think the community will have moved on and the result will either be established or discredited.

      I think the exception is for things that are "hard" to find such or non-repeatable such as finding fossils. Then again the Natural History Museum has boxes and boxes and boxes of the things in the back room. They still haven't gotten round to sorting all the fossils from the Beagle yet (this is not a joke or rhetoric: I know someone who worked there).

      So my conclusion is that it's not really great that the data is being lost, but it's not as bad as it initially sounds.

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    8. Re:Concerning... by clickclickdrone · · Score: 4, Informative

      As an extreme case, the BBC has reported on scrolls from Pompeii and Herculaneum that were 'destroyed' by Vesuvius are now starting to reveal their secrets using some pretty impressive techniques. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25106956

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    9. Re:Concerning... by martin-boundary · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is nothing new though, I do occasional conversion from ancient data formats, people need to pay better attention, imagine trying to read an 8" CP /M floppy today.

      It's not that it's a new problem as such, it's that for the first time in history we have a simple way to solve it, yet we have stupid greedy rich people who sponsor and enact laws to stop us from solving the problem.

      The way to solve the problem is through massive duplication of all the data, over and over again through time. We have the technical means to do this on an unprecedented scale.

      Even 1000 years ago, people had to painstakingly copy books, by hand, one at a time. And after a handful of copies were produced, there still weren't enough to guarantee that most would survive the ages, wars, fires, censorship, etc. So we generally have tiny collections from the past.

      But now it's digital data. Anyone could copy it. We could have millions of copies of some obscure scientific work, all perfect duplicates. If even 0.1% of these copies survive, that's still thousands of copies.

      And what do we do? We let a bunch of 1 percenters, who themselves barely know how or care to read, sponsor draconian copyright laws to stop eeryone from copying all that stuff, just on the off chance that they might copy a bunch of songs or movies that are outmoded within two years. And the commercial scienrific pulishers are some of the worst.

      It's pathetic.

    10. Re:Concerning... by bfandreas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The combination of insane copyright claims and the overrelyance on comparatively volatile storage technology is steering us directly into another dark ages.
      That's one take on things.
      On the other hand we have already lost so much stuff over the centuries that perhaps what I just said is idiotic alarmism. After all we have rebuilt western civilisation after the fall of Rome(that just took the Dark Ages) and we didn't all die off after the Great Library of Alexandria burned down. The stuff that gets often replicated will propably not be lost. But let's hope it isn't a retweet of Miley Cyrus' knickers.

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    11. Re:Concerning... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I designed and built the equipment for scientific experiments that will never be repeated: cochlear implant stimulation of one ear, done in an MRI. This was safe because the older implant technology had a jack that stuck out of the subject's head, and which we could connect to electronics outside the MRI itself. But the old "Ineraid" implants have been replaced, clinically, with implants using embedded electronics and usually magnets. Those are hideously unsafe to to even bring in the same *room* as an MRI, much less actually scan the brain of a person wearing one.

      So that experiment is unlikely to ever be repeated. Losing the data, and losing the extensive clinical records of those subjects, would be an immense loss to science. There is especially historical data from decades of testing on these subjects that show the long term effects of their implants, or of different types of redesigned external stimulators. That data is scientifically priceless. When I started that work, we used mag-tape for data, and scientific notebooks for recording measurements. I helped reformat and transfer that data to increasingly modern storage devices several times. We went through 3 different types of storage media in 10 years, and I remember having to write software to allow Exabyte drives to find the end of the tape and add data. (Exabytes had no End-Of-Tape marker.) Preserving that data.... was a lot of work.

    12. Re:Concerning... by Teun · · Score: 4, Insightful
      In the nineties I had a friend working for a company that bought a lot of old Soviet geophysical data.

      It needed some very special transcription technology but once in the clear and fed to modern 3D seismic software it revealed a lot more than the original reports gave.

      Retaining old reports is nice, retaining old raw data even nicer.

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    13. Re:Concerning... by Lisias · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wishful thinking.

      Let's make a deal: *first*, the gene therapy works. *THEN* we assume we can afford to lose the data the grandparent talks about.

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    14. Re:Concerning... by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      Just because it was sitting around in a library is no guarantee anything would have happened with it.

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  4. Lifecycle management by FaxeTheCat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So the institutions do not have any data lifecycle management for research data. Are we supposed to be surprised? Ensuring that data are not lost is a huge undertaking and cannot be left to the individual researcher. It may also require a change in the research culture at many institutions. As long as research is measured by the publications, that is where the resources go and where the focus will be.

    Will this change? Probably not.

  5. Precisely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is bang on. As a system administrator for a STEM department at a Canadian institution, my budget is 0 for data retention. Long term data retention is just not in the mindset of researchers.

    1. Re:Precisely by cold+fjord · · Score: 2

      One of the places that I've worked did various sorts of science / engineering type project work. Quarterly backups of filesystems were archived indefinitely. Even if the data was staying online, at the completion of every project an archive was made of the data on a minimum of two pieces of backup media along with various bits of metadata regarding the media and data. The archival copies were tested by restore and diffed before actually going into the archive. Of course they kept examples of the different tape drives, and sometime systems, around to use as needed for quite some time.

      Having seen the ugliness of tape drives eating archive media I would be inclined to suggest at least 3 copies.

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  6. On the bright side... by ron_ivi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... poorly collected unreliable data also vanishes at at least the same rate (hopefully faster). And assuming shoddy data disapears faster than good data, then the quality of available data should continually increase.

  7. So...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm a researcher and I don't have time or space to keep old data as I'm generating too much new data. We work hard to maximize the use of these data and analyses when we write and publish papers. If this was talking about the papers (or presentations), that were the product of the data, being lost at this rate it would be one thing, but the raw data isn't usually very useful to anyone without context or knowledge of subtle and poorly documented technicalities. This just seems like ammunition for the climate change deniers to bitch about. It's unreasonable to keep the old data indefinitely without a massive public repository that will be poorly indexed and organized.

  8. what the hell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think it is ridiculous that Slashdot's keep posting articles that are behind paywalls. How the hell are we supposed to see them? Do you expect us to pay for subscriptions to services we'd only use once? you, OP, are out of your mind. articles such as this should be rejected as most users, if not all, can't even access the story. This site really has gone down hill in the last few years, over populated with clueless simpletons, frauds, so-called armchair IT experts and -obvious- subscription pushing trolls.

  9. Its just entropy by Chrisq · · Score: 2

    ... wait what was it again ... its gone!

  10. is/are by LMariachi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Much of these data are unique to a time and place, and is thus irreplaceable, and many other data sets are expensive to regenerate.

    Whichever side of the "data is" vs. "data are" argument one falls on, I hope we can all agree that mixing both forms within the same sentence is definitely wrong.

  11. Lost forever by The+Cornishman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    > many other data sets are expensive to regenerate...
    Or maybe impossible to regenerate (for certain values of impossible). I remember reading a classified technical report (dating from the 1940s) related to military life-jacket development, wherein the question arose as to whether a particular design would reliably turn an unconscious person face-up in the water. The experimental design used was to dress some servicemen (sailors, possibly, but I don't recall) in the prototype design, anaesthetise them and drop them in a large body of water, checking for face-down floaters to disprove the null hypothesis. Somehow, I don't think that those data are going to be regenerated any time soon. I hope to God not, anyway.

  12. The Rosetta Project: building a 10000 year library by QilessQi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Long Now Foundation has devised an interesting mechanism for storing important information which, although not optimal for machine readability, is dense and has an obvious format: a metal disk etched with microprinting, whose exterior shows text getting progressively smaller as an obvious way of saying "look at me under a microscope to see more":

    http://rosettaproject.org/

    I highly recommend reading The Clock of the Long Now if you're interested in the theory and practice of making things last.

  13. Re:Why must you have their data? by n1ywb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No but it is amazing what NEW science you can do with OLD data. I've worked with the Transportable Array project for example http://www.usarray.org/researchers/obs/transportable it's over a decade old and scientists are still discovering new ways to take advantage of the data and will likely be doing so for decades to come. On the other hand a lot of data is just junk due to poor quality metadata; when was that instrument calibrated? I dunno. Damn. At leat in geophysics we have the National Geophysical Data Center to curate this stuff http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/ at least until Congress cuts it's funding.

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  14. Odd coincidence... by rnturn · · Score: 2

    Some years ago I picked up a copy of "Dark Ages II -- When the Digital Data Die" by Bryan Bergeron (2002) but only now have gotten around to finishing reading (for some reason I never got past the first chapter at the time). When I bought it I had just had my own experience with the not-so-long life of digital data (some CDs I'd burned a few years earlier were already unreadable). The book's a bit dated (it says that there are many people out there with Zip drives connected to their PCs) as, obviously technology marches on, leaving older media in the dust but that's the point of the book and the ideas are still relevant. Worth looking for at your public library if you're still of the mind that a digital format is superior to everything else for long-term storage. Personally, I think we're looking at trouble if everything's converted to bits thinking that it'll always be available. Continued access to one of those aforementioned 8" CPM floppies is a good example. My failed CD-Rs are another.

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  15. WE ARE LIVING IN A FUTURE DARK AGE by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 2

    [OP] "disappearing into old email addresses and obsolete storage devices, a Canadian study (abstract, article paywalled) indicated

    Well so much for the study. Money changes everything. Eventually one hundred thousand copies of the abstract will exist on the Internet, but the authors' future descendants will find only only one actual link that leads to content, which terminates at a page saying "this domain is for sale".

    You'd think that even science data of extremely low bit rate such as original weather station temperature data should be out there somewhere. A lot of other people did too... but all that is available now might be "value added" ajusted data. Not an evil conspiracy per se, it's human nature at it's best and worst.

    A handy chronology of the history of data retention:

    [2500BC] King Fuckemup boldly slew the enemy and I, Scribe Asskissus hath inscribed it in stone. He is an asshole who owes me back wages."
    [1500] "With quivering quill I will write mine own data."
    [1866] "Data published at great expense into leather-bound volumes. Dust sold separately."
    [1970] "This is really important. we should print it and store it in a binder."
    [1971] They didn't.
    [1983] "I'll write it to floppy disk with a notsosticky label"
    [1985] "After a long and desperate search, the label has been found!"
    [1987] "Unlabeled floppy disk keeps coffeemaker level."
    [1995] "Roxio CD storage is forever, and Real Scientists don't close their data sessions."
    [2003] "Microsoft Word has experienced a problem updating from an older document format and will now close. Save your work as soon as possible."
    [2005] "I'll just email it to myself and shut the computer off immediately, then pick it up at work."
    [2009] "Yes, three copies! In the safe. There was a fire. Yes, inside the safe. It was a fireproof safe, so no one noticed."
    [2010] "This is really important. I should print it and store it in a binder. But my ink cartridge is dry."
    [2013] "Our data has been uploaded to the Cloud where it will live forever."
    [2500] "King Grapeape slew the primitive humans and buried their statue on the beach. I, Scribe Anthopoapologus hath incribed it in stone."

    Perhaps the most mystiying data retention escapade of Modern Times is the missing Apollo 11 SSTV moon tapes which contained a multiplexed stream of raw telemetry and the original slow-scan TV signal broadcast from the moon. Not 'missing' really, rather we know they were re-used and recorded over because everyone assumed it was someone else's job to ensure that at least one copy was in a safe place. While the earth station operators dutifully sent their tapes to NASA where the sharpest signal of the moon landing was sure to be perserved for posterity (not), fortunately there were some librarians on duty, and you can aquire DVDs of the moonwalk with better quality than the recordings you've seen in countless movies -- an 8mm film camera pointed at an original SSTV monitor at Honeysuckle Creek, and the best quality scan-converted version.

    In the Foundation series, Asimov envisioned Gaia, a world in which a telepathic network of sentient (and sensuous) beings kept a 'working set' retrievable data in-memory -- but also via access to progressively less and non-sentient objects, such as plants and even rocks -- a vast archive. Ask the mountain, it will answer in time, a long time.

    Our own Earth has a Gaia storage mechanism, a record of its magnetic field over geologic time stored as polarization in crystallized lava floes. But it i

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  16. how this happens by Goldsmith · · Score: 3, Informative

    Our scientific research system is built around the process of joining a lab, mastering the work there, and then leaving. There are very few long term research partnerships. The people who stay in place are the professors, who generally do not do the research work.

    So you join a lab, produce a few terabytes of data a year, pull a few publishable nuggets out of that and then leave. I have a few backup hard drives that move around with me with what I consider my most important data, probably total 1/10 of the data I have taken. After a few years, this data is really unimportant to me as the labs I have left have done a good job of continuing the research and I have to spend my time and money on something else.

    The original data is eventually overwritten by researchers a few "generations" removed from me and that's the end of it.

  17. Magnificent Desolation - Behind the scenes by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 2

    When John Knoll (yes, THE John Knoll, co-creator of Photoshop and VFX wizard extraordinaire) wanted to reproduce the Apollo moon landing in CG he ran into a small problem. He went to NASA to obtain the telemetry data for altitude and orientation but apparently the data had been tossed a long time ago. However, he was able to find physical prints of graphs of the telemetry channels. So he scanned them in, made them an underlay in a 3D modeling program, and painstakingly traced them by hand in order to extract the data. The results can be seen in Magnificent Desolation Apollo 15 landing sequence. And BTW, that's his modeling work for the lander too.

  18. Re:And It Makes Me Wonder by the+gnat · · Score: 2

    Since the data is unique to a time & place and irreplaceable, it would completely destroy the reproducibility aspect of the scientific process.

    This gets tricky in some fields, however. I work in a field where generating the data is a notoriously difficult and haphazard process, subject to many non-experimental variables, such that the use of a different pipette or stock solution can make the difference - or even just the speed of the researcher's manual labor. Temperature and humidity play a role too, and these are not as precisely calibrated as one might like. So if an experiment is performed at 8pm on a Saturday night by a grad student in Colorado, there is no guarantee that a postdoc in Singapore will be able to do the same thing based on reading the paper. (Actually, from past experience, there's no guarantee that the original experimenter will be able to reproduce it either!) But the data may be just as good, and they're difficult to fake, and they're deposited in a public database. Since everyone in the field is accustomed to the complexities of the process and we have decent archival policies, this problem is accepted as a fact of life.

    I am quite certain that some of my (published) results from grad school would be difficult at best to reproduce exactly. I stand by my data - and am happy to share them - but it is always troubling to wonder if someone else in a different environment would have reached different conclusions.

  19. Re:Why must you have their data? by khayman80 · · Score: 2

    "Any independent researcher may freely obtain the primary station data. It is impossible for a third party to withhold access to the data. Regarding data availability, there is no basis for the allegations that CRU prevented access to raw data. It was impossible for them to have done so." [Muir Russell Review, p48,53]

  20. Re:Why must you have their data? by khayman80 · · Score: 2

    That's why it was "impossible" for CRU to have withheld access to the raw data. Because they didn't collect it in the first place. Anyone who was actually interested in the data could always have gotten them from the same sources that CRU did.