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NSA Metadata Collection Program Has Stopped Zero Attacks

Antipater writes "According to a member of the White House panel that recently called for the NSA's metadata-collection program to be curtailed, that program has not stopped any terrorist actions at all. This runs counter to the stories we've heard for months, which claimed as many as fifty prevented attacks. 'Stone declined to comment on the accuracy of public statements by U.S. intelligence officials about the telephone collection program, but said that when they referred to successes they seemed to be mixing the results of domestic metadata collection with the intelligence derived from the separate, and less controversial, NSA program, known as 702, to intercept communications overseas.'"

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  1. Re:I doesn't matter by SteveFoerster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not to be all conspiratorial, but I think it's been a while now since politicians were really in charge of this sort of thing.

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  2. Re:Wait a second... by SteveFoerster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tell that to Boeing, who just lost a major deal with Brazil over this.

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  3. Re:Of course it didn't. by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm really curious what other US citizen could directly and provably lie to congress, and not be arrested and indited for it, like J. Clapper?

    Why has he not gotten in trouble legally yet?

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  4. Re:Wait a second... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Morons. Really. Both the Captain Kirk wannabees that run the agency and their private sector "partners". Besides Boeing, we now find out that IBM hid a couple of billion in lost business with China stemming from the Snowden leaks from their shareholders. This just underscores for me that the people running things got where they are through a combination of luck and ruthlessness rather than smarts and discipline. Those of us old enough to have lived through the Cold War pretty quickly made the connection between what our government has been up to now and what went on in the police states on the other side of the Iron Curtain (although perhaps not with the same sense of dejavu that Angela Merkel does). That anyone involved in this still has not been impeached or fired is probably an indication of how far gone we are.

  5. Re:Wait a second... by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They claimed several prevented attacks but refused to provide details.

    And given the way they publicise the "attacks" that they "stop" which are really just an informant giving fake bombs/weapons to some nut job ... you know they'd be shouting any successes from every rooftop they could get to. They'd be doing the talk show circuit and hosting their own news conferences.

    The first problem is that the kind of "terrorism" that they want to focus on is almost non-existant in the USofA. The real terrorists had one huge success and that's all.

    The second problem is that the real terrorists don't spend time gossipping on the phone with all their terrorist friends. Yes, it is a way to map out a social network. But this isn't Facebook. Sam the suicide does not have to call Bill the bomb every Tuesday at 7 to chat.

    The metadata and phone location are useful for reconstructing the final days and those contacts AFTER an attack. And they don't need years of data for that. Or even months.