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NSA Metadata Collection Program Has Stopped Zero Attacks
Antipater writes "According to a member of the White House panel that recently called for the NSA's metadata-collection program to be curtailed, that program has not stopped any terrorist actions at all. This runs counter to the stories we've heard for months, which claimed as many as fifty prevented attacks. 'Stone declined to comment on the accuracy of public statements by U.S. intelligence officials about the telephone collection program, but said that when they referred to successes they seemed to be mixing the results of domestic metadata collection with the intelligence derived from the separate, and less controversial, NSA program, known as 702, to intercept communications overseas.'"
Not to be all conspiratorial, but I think it's been a while now since politicians were really in charge of this sort of thing.
That is conspiratorial. The armed forces have grown and shrunk by hundreds of thousands over the last 20 years, and by tens of thousands over the last decade. Congress clearly has the power. The armed forces have started shrinking again. The NSA could certainly have its rules changed by the Congress, the courts, or the President.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
That's essentially EXACTLY what they said. They claimed several prevented attacks but refused to provide details.
That is the way the intelligence game works. Your successes are secrets, and your failures tend to get publicized. If you don't keep your successes secret, you may not be able to repeat them, ever.
If they are briefing Congress about this it is almost certainly occurring behind closed doors, and may be limited to specific members.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
I'm really curious what other US citizen could directly and provably lie to congress, and not be arrested and indited for it, like J. Clapper?
Why has he not gotten in trouble legally yet?
Why hasn't he gotten in trouble legally? Probably because Congress had already been informed of the truth, and Wyden asked a highly inappropriate question in an inappropriate place as a form of grandstanding.
Wyden’s Stunt Was Congress at its Worst
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Since there are hundreds of people in the US that have been arrested and imprisoned for terrorism related offenses in the last 12 years there must be something working. I don't think that magic rocks are admissible in court.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Question for you - If Boeing lost because of NSA, why did the French company Dassault lose? They were bidding on the same contract in competition with Saab. Saab won. Dassault had nothing to do with NSA.
I see you used snark tags in your post. Did it occur to you that the unattributed comment about Boeing losing due to NSA was just a snarky "twist of the knife" at an opportune time? I don't suppose it would. So, why did Dassault lose, and why would Boeing's loss be any different than Dassault's loss in reality?
Brazil has bought $1 billion in missiles from Russia, and yet they considered Russia a target for Brazilian spying, just like they spied on the US. And certainly you don't think that Brazil is free from Russian spies. So there is a mystery. Why would they buy from Russia if Russia is spying, but not the US?
You don't suppose it could be simply do to the quality of goods, the business terms, and the price, do you? Nah, that wouldn't indict the US!
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Source? Oh right...you're talking out of your ass.
Are agnostics skeptical of unicorns too?