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Italy Approves 'Google Tax' On Internet Companies

recoiledsnake sends this news from Bloomberg: "Italy's Parliament today passed a new measure on web advertising, the so-called 'Google tax,' which will require Italian companies to purchase their Internet ads from locally registered companies, instead of from units based in havens such as Ireland, Luxembourg and Bermuda. Google, for example, says that it sells nearly all its advertising in Europe from an Irish unit, leaving little taxable profits in the countries where its customers are based. That unit in turn pays royalties to a second Irish subsidiary, which says its headquarters are in Bermuda. Google last year moved nearly $12 billion to the Bermuda unit, the majority of its worldwide income, cutting more than $2 billion off its global income tax bill. Google's Italian unit last year reported total income taxes of just 1.8 million euros, corporate filings show."

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  1. Loophole closed by timeOday · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sounds to me like closing a loophole more than instituting a new tax. I realize that is a matter of interpretation, but the idea that google, apple, etc are "really" in Bermuda etc. is such a hoax in the first place.

    1. Re:Loophole closed by BSAtHome · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem, however, is that it may run afoul of European law by discriminating between national and European registered companies. It will depend heavily on the exact wording and application of the law whether the EU will allow it.
      The loophole should be closed on EU level, but /that/ is a hard thing to do with all the lobbying going on. Maybe it is time that the tax-systems get better harmonised between EU countries and sanity can be implemented (I know, utopian thoughts, but still).

    2. Re:Loophole closed by currently_awake · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If people in Italy are paying money for something, then the income comes from Italy and should be taxed in Italy as income. If Italian products are being advertised to Italians, then the service tax on the adds should be paid to the Italian government. We need to very carefully define where things are happening on the internet, there is a lot at stake for the world. Also it should not be legal for companies to put a clause in their EULA selecting a legal jurisdiction of their choice, when neither the customer nor the company are actually doing anything in that jurisdiction.

  2. that doesn't seem too unreasonable by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When Google sells some ads to an Italian company, it is not really a Bermuda company conducting business. Deeming the transactions to take place in the location of the customer isn't the only possible rule you could come up with, but it's a vaguely sensible one, and at least more sensible than the status quo.

  3. Re:states dont want to compete. by Great+Big+Bird · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps companies that want to do business in country X end up paying taxes in country X instead of trying to scam their way out of it? Government is not free, and nor is it superfluous.

  4. Re:states dont want to compete. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You were so busy stuffing words in that guys mouth I wonder where you got the spare time to build a strawman.

  5. Re:states dont want to compete. by haruchai · · Score: 5, Informative

    Except that the corporations haven't chosen to go where taxes are LOW; they've chosen the places where taxes are ZERO.

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  6. Re:states dont want to compete. by Tom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A better solution would be for Italy to simply lower their taxes until it did NOT make business sense to go through such contortions to avoid them anymore.

    Because the race to the bottom has been demonstrated to be such a great idea in all other areas, yes? Healthcare, social security, heck anything with humans in it.

    No, states should not have to compete. When you make business in a country you ought to pay its taxes, period. Tax evasion like this should be illegal, and if Google or anyone else doesn't like it - well, nobody forces them to sell ads in Italy.

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