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E-Books That Read You

An anonymous reader writes "Internet users have sadly grown used to having their every click and scroll measured by advertisers and content providers seeking to squeeze every last ounce of attention out of them. Now, it seems such data gathering is spreading into your favorite novels as well. The NY Times profiles several companies trying to collect data on how people read ebooks. Quoting: 'Scribd is just beginning to analyze the data from its subscribers. Some general insights: The longer a mystery novel is, the more likely readers are to jump to the end to see who done it. People are more likely to finish biographies than business titles, but a chapter of a yoga book is all they need. They speed through romances faster than religious titles, and erotica fastest of all. At Oyster, a top book is What Women Want, promoted as a work that "brings you inside a woman's head so you can learn how to blow her mind." Everyone who starts it finishes it. On the other hand, Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr.'s The Cycles of American History blows no minds: fewer than 1 percent of the readers who start it get to the end. Oyster data shows that readers are 25 percent more likely to finish books that are broken up into shorter chapters. That is an inevitable consequence of people reading in short sessions during the day on an iPhone.'"

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  1. It's finally happened. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Soviet Russia...erm...capitalist America, eBook reads you!

    1. Re:It's finally happened. by Runaway1956 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Fight back with torrents. Calibre doesn't care what format the ebook is in, and it certainly doesn't report back to Amazon or anyone else. To document my reading habits, you'll have to root my machine. To even find out what I read, you'll have to at least get a look at my hard drive.

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      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
    2. Re:It's finally happened. by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      Just read my fine sci-fi book*. Two chapters a week are going online and the whole kit and kaboodle will be there this spring for absolutely free, no ads, no tracking (unless the NSA has hacked my Canadian web host).

      Look, guys, fight back against the greed. This is bullshit. You're going to pay money for books that stalk you? Are you mad?? Do you want product or something from the heart? Don't buy products that stalk you, whether readers or content.

      Give me paper (although that said, I'm reading a couple of old public domain books on my phone).

      * You're a nerd, you can figure it out

    3. Re:It's finally happened. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      capitalist America

      That'd be corporatist America, wouldn't it? Corporatism seems more like neo-feudalism than capitalism. I wonder by how much America's national debt would be reduced if large American corporations were unable to exploit tax havens to evade tax.

    4. Re:It's finally happened. by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2

      I do that sometimes. That is, after all, the morally correct thing to do, if the book proves to be worth anything. So much that is published proves to be worthless though. Much much more proves to be worth only a fraction of the author and/or publisher's expectations.

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      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
  2. Not worried much by wbr1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am far less concerned with research about how I read than information on what I read and who I share it with being given to those in power. How I read may make for better written, more useful tomes. Information on what I read can be misconstrued and misused. Unfortunately, what I read has been a matter of record since long before data on how I read.

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    Silence is a state of mime.
    1. Re:Not worried much by pepty · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I mind people mining data about me without paying me for it. I don't think it should automatically be illegal or regulated, but I'd like a "please" and a "here's your share of the loot". So how about:

      A company with a suite of applications that tracks everything you do and then:

      -spoofs the data other apps receive about you on your phone

      -deletes cookies, proxies your IP addresses and google searches, etc.

      -blocks all ads, etc.

      Basically makes you absolutely useless to everyone - unless they purchase your information from the company. advertisers can also pay to have their ads whitelisted. The company turns over 50% of the revenue to the users that allow tracking and selective blocking of ads.

      Only sharing revenue with users that register with an active mobile phone account, real residential address, and a $1 fee with via a credit card billed to the same address would cut down on farming of fake users. Google being willing, able, and strongly motivated to spend billions of dollars to crush the operation into dust might be a problem though.

  3. Easy solution by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Don't buy e-book readers that force you to be connected to the internet, or only read proprietary file formats, or buy from online store.

    My old Sony PRS-650 doesn't have hardware to go on the internet, and it reads whatever file I feed it, so I'm sure it doesn't snitch on me.

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    "A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
    1. Re:Easy solution by rotenberry · · Score: 2

      I, too, have an e-book reader that does not have the hardware to go on the internet.

      Isn't the Unix philosophy to have a single command that does only one job well? "cat", "head", "tail", "ls" are examples of the commands I have in mind. Extend this idea to the real world. I have an e-book reader, a music player, a (dumb) phone, and a wristwatch.

      A smart phone is a bit like the Microsoft operating system: it does everything, but does not do any of them well.

      Not much of a bargain. Mediocre performance AND the loss of privacy.

    2. Re: Easy solution by loufoque · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You realize even the Amazon Kindle (supposedly the most evil device) does none of those things, right?
      I have one, have never connected it to the Internet, and all the ebooks I have were downloaded online.

    3. Re:Easy solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You've completely missed the point of the unix philosophy. The reason for splitting tasks like "Buy a book and read it" into single jobs is so that you can replace the individual parts. You probably have one or two ways to get books on your device: you can buy it from the store, and maybe you can use a desktop application to copy files over, provided they are in the right format.

      By contrast, I can get books from wherever I want, from text files to Amazon to B&N to Project Gutenberg to backwater FTP sites. I can use whatever programs I want to organize these books, whether by file structure, metadata tagging, stored in a database, etc. I can then use whatever programs I feel like to transfer them to my device's storage (if I haven't opted to store them on the device as a master). This is possible because each component of this process was designed to work regardless of whatever other programs it is used together with.

      You can't do that with your device. If there's a part of your "click button, read book" process that fails - for instance, if someone decides that to revoke the "read book" step for copyright reasons - you can't replace the failed component.

    4. Re:Easy solution by danlock4 · · Score: 2

      I own several kindles and I never connect to the web.

      Several kindles? That's called kindling. ;-) I'll look you up the next time I need to start a fire.

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    5. Re: Easy solution by ignavus · · Score: 3, Funny

      ou realize even the Amazon Kindle (supposedly the most evil device) does none of those things, right?

      Who said the Kindle is "the most evil"? I've not seen that. In what ways is it supposedly an evil device?

      Just look at the word "Kindle" (=starting a burning fire ... as in hell) and the letters it contains:

      The letters D, E, I, L are also found in the word "devil". And we all know that satan finds work for IDLE hands!

      The letters L, I, E (which spells "lie" - a work of the devil) are found in the word "Lucifer". Kindle contains a lie from Lucifer.

      And N, I, K are found in "Nick" (as in the satanic name "Old Nick"). Kindle is "kin" with Old Nick!

      Every letter in the word "Kindle" is found in one or more of the common names for the devil.

      It is positiviely brimming with evil! (Key! "brimstone" - get it?)

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      I am anarch of all I survey.
    6. Re:Easy solution by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2

      And, you base all of that on what exactly? Recent personal experience? Linux had a poor user experience, historically. But, we don't live in history, do we? At present, I'm living in the year 2013, soon to be 2014. Today, Linux has not one, but two good sound systems available. It has pretty awesome graphics. Most NICs just work. As has been observed many times, you can set up a desktop, laptop, or whatever for your doddering old grandparents, and convince them that it's the "new Windows". And, we are all aware that serious science has relied on Linux and/or Unix-likes just about forever now. And, servers?

      Whatever. You may continue to cite obsolete historical data to justify dumping on Linux. This is still a free country. Well, as free as the NSA permits it to be.

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      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
  4. Soft sore porn vs a tome by tomhath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At Oyster, a top book is What Women Want, promoted as a work that "brings you inside a woman's head so you can learn how to blow her mind." Everyone who starts it finishes it. On the other hand, Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr.'s The Cycles of American History blows no minds: fewer than 1 percent of the readers who start it get to the end.

    200 pages of soft core porn are more likely to be read than 500 pages of history. Who knew?

    1. Re:Soft sore porn vs a tome by mrbester · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Everyone who starts it finishes it"

      That's because after every chapter you're hoping the book will keep the tagline promise ("OK, maybe the *next* chapter will tell me what I want to know") only to find at the end that it doesn't.

      --
      "Wait. Something's happening. It's opening up! My God, it's full of apricots!"
    2. Re:Soft sore porn vs a tome by Chexum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      31 pages. Far from 200. It's practically ending before you realize it. If this is coming from an "eat-all-you-can" monthly subscription ebook store, I would guess more people would go for lighter works to get more out of their money. So the data they tell us is practically useless to predict what is really wanted in a book.

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      "Ten years from now, they could do it in a few seconds." -- The Racketeer of the Hellfire Club, 1993, Phrack 42
  5. Re:yeah by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2

    That's called a comic book.

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    "A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
  6. Re:Its a good thing.. by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Oh, and my reader's wifi, is never on.

    I don't mean to sound like I have a tinfoil hat on, but all you're sure of is that you have instructed the software to turn the wifi off. That doesn't mean the software doesn't lie to you and keeps trying to connect without telling you.

    Think I'm paranoid? Well, maybe I am, maybe I'm not.

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    "A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
  7. In Capitalist America... by Animats · · Score: 2

    In Capitalist America, book reads you!

  8. Romances go fast... by sandytaru · · Score: 2

    .... because they are easy reading and you know there's a happy ending.

    Eroticas go faster because people are skipping over the pages of badly written sex trying to find more plot.

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    Occasionally living proof of the Ballmer peak.
  9. Re:Since this is slashdot. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Phones, unfortunately, have really upped the game in terms of creepy surveillance and exfiltration.

    When dealing with normal computers, you always have the easy option of just installing wireshark.

    If that's too disruptive, or you want to monitor multiple systems, or you don't trust the system you want to inspect, you just tap the last link before the ISP's probably-not-trustworthy gear and examine that. Wireless doesn't change the game much, as long as you know the key (passive tapping becomes easier; but there's a greater risk that your monitoring system will miss some packets in the noise, and driver support for things like promiscuous mode tends to be a lot spottier).

    Cellular connections, though? The entire network is Ma Bell's black-box, so even RF sniffing won't get you much (unless you can coax it down to A5/1 or A5/2 and have some time on your hands), and doing the packet capture on-device is markedly harder than on a PC. At best, with a very well behaved android you should be able to use the same tools that you would on normal linux, against whatever peculiar device name is assigned to the cell connection. It's all downhill from there, though creative abuse of VPNs should work against any application not trying to hide from you, even on devices you can't root/jailbreak.

    It isn't impossible, with the right device; but you can certainly make things a great deal more difficult if your application waits until it is on a cellular connection before phoning home.

  10. Re: yeah by loufoque · · Score: 4, Funny

    How about shorter novels? We could make them short enough to be a sentence. We could call them 'tweets'!

  11. Re:Its a good thing.. by akozakie · · Score: 2

    Hardware switch off, only WiFi within range under my full control (and I mean it) - no attempt to connect. Hardware switch on, wireshark on, full dump - nothing suspicious. Good enough for me.

    Get a good one and test it, that's it. Paranoia is fun, but needs to have some limits. Still, it is kind of a niche reader - if you use something more publisher-controlled, a Kindle or some official app... YMMV.

  12. Re:yeah by davester666 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, most internet users are not aware of how much their every click is tracked, by how many different companies, for any given web page.

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  13. Surprise me. by westlake · · Score: 2

    The longer a mystery novel is, the more likely readers are to jump to the end to see who done it. People are more likely to finish biographies than business titles, but a chapter of a yoga book is all they need. They speed through romances faster than religious titles, and erotica fastest of all.

    None of this would have been news to a book publisher in 1910.

    Best Books of the 1900's - 1900-1909

  14. Re:Since this is slashdot. by CODiNE · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can't get wire shark reliably working with my wifi card, so here's how I sniff iphone app access.

    Share the wifi from the laptop, sniff the wired connection to the router. With enough playing around you can get filters for exactly what you're interested in. But for simple monitoring app access it's good enough.

    You wouldn't believe the stuff that gets sent around in plain text.

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  15. Re:Feeling justified in eschewing e-books by nabsltd · · Score: 2

    Next, we need a time machine to go 10 years into the future. I'm being nice because I have books much older than that. In 10 year will your e-reader still work? Probably not.

    Who cares? My eBooks are all in EPUB format, and if for some bizarre reason no "eBook reader device" in 10 years supports this open format, the actual text of the book is nothing more than HTML and CSS.

    If you seriously think I won't be able to find a device that will render HTML 10 years from now, you're paranoid beyond belief.

    Meanwhile there will always be a market for printed books, which I will continue to read and enjoy for decades to come, free of any censorship, legal issues, anyone taking them away from me, breakdowns, battery issues, or anything else that comes with e-readers.

    Again, EPUB is completely safe from being "taken away", and hardware issues really don't matter when you have a format that can be read on virtually any device. As for "censorship", read about how you can no longer get the original version of this book in a physical book, yet my eBook version has the deleted text added back, because I did it myself. Sure, you might be able to hunt down a first edition and pay big money for it, but I'd rather spend far less money and a few minutes of my time to get the same result.

  16. Re:Since this is slashdot. by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    Wireless doesn't change the game much, as long as you know the key (passive tapping becomes easier; but there's a greater risk that your monitoring system will miss some packets in the noise, and driver support for things like promiscuous mode tends to be a lot spottier).

    One method I've used in the past is set up an ad-hoc wireless network with a USB-wifi key, and then you can sniff all the traffic with wireshark. If you happen to have a Windows Phone 7 (for example), this is a relatively easy way to get the binaries for your apps from the phone (if you do it while they are downloading from the app store).

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  17. Non-paywalled link to story by knorthern+knight · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Could Slashdot please refuse to post stories that link to paywalled sites? BTW, I put some of the text from the summary into Google, and the first non-paywalled link that popped up was http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/e-books-reading-the-minds-of-reader-to-learn-what-they-crave/articleshow/27903865.cms

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  18. Re:Since this is slashdot. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you control the AP, tapping wireless is pretty much identical to tapping wired(whether your 'AP' is also the computer doing the tapping, running an adapter in ad-hoc or AP mode, or whether the computer doing the tapping is sniffing the AP's ethernet link). What makes me nervous is the possibility that (mostly likely out of malice) a phone app might deliberately avoid chatting on any interface except the cellular connection. Non-malicious apps (or malicious apps that assume you aren't paying attention) can presumably be forced over to wifi and sniffed like any computer; but something that maintains silence except when connecting through the cell network would be very hard to pin down.

    RF sniffing to establish the the existence of traffic isn't that hard (doesn't everyone seem to own a set of cheap speakers that provides that 'feature' for free?); but anything more than very rough estimates of traffic volume would be orders of magnitude more difficult than anything running over your network...

  19. Re:Since this is slashdot. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    I get the unpleasant impression that, just as the patent office treats "Do something obvious but on a cellphone!" as a totally novel invention, a lot of 'apps' are hell-bent on ignoring the (not exactly ironclad) advances in security applied to programs written for typical computers and re-learning, the hard way, what the PC crew had to learn once internet connections became a thing...

    At least it can make for interesting reading, if it's some other sucker's phone...