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Wisconsin Begins Using Cheese To De-Ice Roads

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "The NYT reports that Milwaukee has begun a pilot program to use cheese brine to keep city roads from freezing, mixing the dairy waste with traditional rock salt as a way to trim costs and ease pollution. 'You want to use provolone or mozzarella,' says Jeffrey A. Tews, the fleet operations manager for the public works department, which has spread the cheesy substance in Bay View, a neighborhood on Milwaukee's south side. 'Those have the best salt content. You have to do practically nothing to it.' Local governments across the country have been experimenting with cheaper and environmentally friendly ways of thawing icy thoroughfares, trying everything from sugar beet juice to discarded brewery grain in an attempt to limit the use of road salt, which can spread too thin, wash away and pollute waterways. 'If you put dry salt on a roadway, you typically lose 30 percent to bounce and traffic,' says Emil Norby, who works for Polk County and was the first in Wisconsin to come up with the cheese brine idea to help the salt stick. In a state where lawmakers once honored the bacterium in Monterey Jack as the state's official microbe, residents of Bay View say they have noticed little difference, good or bad, in the smell of their streets, and city officials say they have received no complaints. The mayor of Bay View says it's an experiment, but one that makes sense. The brine will come from the Dresser Farm in Polk County, where it is already being used on the roads. The only cost will be for transportation and distribution. 'We thought, 'Well, let's give it a shot.' The investment in this project is $1,474.'"

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  1. Re:"$1,474?" said the Federal Government, by peragrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    not the federal the county government. and yes I bet that is legit for the initial test.

    They were probably given the brine for free so the company wouldn't have to dispose of it legally. which would also cost a couple of thousand of dollars.

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  2. Re:Side-effects by ElementOfDestruction · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are your dogs lactose intolerant? Hipster freaking dogs with their allergy-of-the-month syndromes...

  3. Headline sucks by dbIII · · Score: 4, Informative

    The content says brine, the salty water left over from cheesemaking.

    1. Re:Headline sucks by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      In otherwords, they're using what we've been spraying on roads in Canada for the last 5 years...and what we make in the depot yards from the "powdery leftover salt." Of course we add in a chemical deicer as well, since it quite often gets below -10C here in the winter, and straight salt stops working properly at -9C. And then there's other places here in Canada where we use gravel or sand, and only that because even chemical deicers don't work when it gets that cold.

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  4. cheese vs cheese brine by csumpi · · Score: 4, Funny

    timothy, if that's the same to you, have some with crackers.

    1. Re:cheese vs cheese brine by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      Brine is delicious, you insensitive clod.

      You shrimp.

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  5. Why? A cheesemaker's POV... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a professional cheesemaker, (yes, one of the blessed variety), the first question that comes to my mind is:

    Why are these people throwing out their brine? This seems an unnecessarily costly exercise.

    It is typical practice in many cheese factories (and all of those in which I've worked) to keep and re-use brine (sometimes for decades), with routine and simple maintenance such as topping up salt levels, adjustment of pH, filtration to remove solids and occasional pasteurisation if required.

    A "raw" brine of just NaCl and water will, of course, do the job of salting your cheese, but most of the salt is left in solution at the end of the brining process (so it doesn't make sense to throw it away), and the pH will have a tendency to bounce around, adversely affecting the properties of your cheese. The various whey products in a re-used brine help to stabilise the pH, so one usually only needs to top up salt to replace that absorbed by the cheese.

    1. Re:Why? A cheesemaker's POV... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products

    2. Re:Why? A cheesemaker's POV... by rossdee · · Score: 2

      It wouldn't work so well around here, since NaCl brine freezes at 0F
      Low temps for the next three nights are forcast at -20F
      And we already had one -24F night this winter
      (I live west of Wisconsin)

  6. Smell? by wisnoskij · · Score: 3

    I could imagine this smelling pretty horrible, particularly come summer.

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    1. Re:Smell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Parent is suggesting that the current lack of smell might be due to the low temperatures freezing the more odorous molecules. (Or retarding odorous bacteria that feed on the solution.) And thus once the temperatures rise, all that cheesy-brine on or near the roads will start to whiff up.

    2. Re:Smell? by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, yes, it would probably smell pretty bad if they were to spread this on the roads in the summertime. However, as an Anonymous Coward pointed out, they don't have much of a problem with ice on the roads in the summer in Milwaukee. In addition, it is unlikely that the brine they spread on the roads during the winter will still be there by the time the weather gets warm enough to cause a smell problem.

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    3. Re: Smell? by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      All of which are pale shadows of Decatur Illinois.

      ADM processes something like 50% of the world soy in Decatur. The whole town smells like a tofu eater puked in the corner.

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  7. Re:Cheese brine != cheese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    don't blame slashdot editors for this one.. the article at the new york fucking times uses "cheese" (only, not paired with 'brine') in its own headline.

  8. Typo in headline by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Informative

    They are using cheese brine, not the cheese itself. The brine has salt in it but is mostly not cheese.

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  9. Cats by symes · · Score: 5, Funny

    They are going to have a problem with mice on the roads. What will the spray to deal with the mice? Fish. The fish will attract cats who will eat the mice. But then there will be a cat problem, so they will have to spray ... anyway, I am sure that the old woman who swallowed a fly is consulting. So all is well.

    1. Re:Cats by Megane · · Score: 4, Funny

      And when winter comes, the gorillas will simply freeze to death.

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  10. Whey too expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Although I suppose it curd work.

    1. Re:Whey too expensive by karnal · · Score: 3, Funny

      Where there's a wheel there's a whey.

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  11. Cold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thats a heat wave

    When I were a lad in Yorkshire, it used to get down to -25 Kelvin, and our mother would give us a cup of liquid Helium to warm us up...

  12. Re:"$1,474?" said the Federal Government, by glavenoid · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't worry, I'll mod it for you.

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  13. Obligatory Sheogorath cry... by GarethIwanFairclough · · Score: 2

    CHEESE FOR EVERYONE!!!!

  14. Re: Side-effects by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 2

    90% of the people you know are probably White. If you based world population trends on the area where you live you probably think most people in the world are White, followed by Blacks. Reality is most of the world population is Asian.

    This is why so many U.S. science and medical studies fall under the W.E.I.R.D problem

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/05/weird_psychology_social_science_researchers_rely_too_much_on_western_college.html

  15. Re:Heh by Wing_Zero · · Score: 2

    I live in Wisconsin, and we tend to do a lot of "Second Run" Re purposing, I makes sense, Its already there, so why not?

    I know the freeway salters already use a thick slurry salt mix that not only speeds the melting process, but also stays put alot better on bridges and such. I don't know what is exactly in the mix, but i seem to recall the mix is just as safe as pure salt.

    Other than cost savings though, I wouldn't call it a eco benefit. It's still going to wash away into the ground and local water, I remember a article in the Milwaukee journal a few years back that some of the smaller ponds and lakes in the Madison area were starting to show a dangerous salinity level for the local wildlife. (they tend to over salt the roads a bit according to the article)

    I live in the Northwoods, and what the county does here is salt right after the snow ends, and after that it's sand. a bit more economical, they just send a street sweeper out early spring and collect what hasnt washed away and reuse it