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UK Introduces Warrantless Detention
An anonymous reader writes with news that the UK is introducing new laws tightening security around military bases, quoting the article "The Ministry of Defense is set to introduce "draconian" new powers to tighten security and limit access to US airbases in Britain implicated in mass surveillance and drone strikes, The Independent can reveal. ... Among the 20 activities to be banned within the controlled area are camping 'in tents, caravans, trees or otherwise,' digging, engaging in 'any trade or business' or grazing any animal. Also among the offenses, which can result in an individual being 'taken into custody without warrant,' is a failure to pick up dog waste or causing damage to 'any crops, turfs, plants, roots or trees'"
Let's just call the place Airstrip One and be done with it.
Tiiiight
Guy Fawkes
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THIS NEW DESIGN IS DOG SHIT
I can understand the part about penalizing failure to pick up dog waste. No sense arming the inevitable protesters gratuitously.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
yes this is draconian but i don't think that 'taken into custody without warrant' means what i think the slashdot article implies it does. to me it means that these are now arrestable offences, obviously police can already arrest people without 'a warrant' otherwise no one could ever be arrested or detained on the street for any crime without a judge first being involved.
officer: i saw you hit that woman
scrote: fuck you
officer: right sonny, just you wait here while i get a warrant so i can make you stay here,
hey come back, i haven't got the warrant yet!...
the problem here is that they shouldn't be arrestable offences not that police have the already existing power to arrest people
snake
Just post a sign that says "No Trespassing" and be done with it.
Life is not for the lazy.
there will be no revolt
there will be no resistance
they are moving us to a future where
implanted chips will be the norm
they will read and record our thoughts
and perhaps they will physically move us, too
and since they're working on removing memories
we won't remember what happened when they 'moved' us.
even the bible says there will come a time when people ...
will seek death but won't be able to find it
because THEY won't let you.
It's all downhill, folks, they want your brain
without enlisting in any force
and they will take us by force
yesterday the chip in the head people were crazies
now we have the reality, they just have to introduce it
they will seduce us into this electronic tattoo, pill swallow and monitor health, implantable chip and even stronger, more hideous technology in the name of many things, safety, health, entertainment, g00g1e gl4ss is the beginning. Soon they will say, "WHY AREN'T YOU WEARING ONE?" and you'll be forced to wear one like good old Wesley Crusher was.
freedom - it was good while it lasted.
Sorry no the police do not need a warrant to detain you in the uk.
They need a warrant to kick your door down ( subject to caveats about imminent danger etc when they don't).
He'll they don't even require a warrant to search your person or your car.
So title is a complete misnomer.
:(
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B===D l@@k at my monster truck, all tricked out with, vote for A or B and that gets me -- off like nothing other.
i watch tv and the right says boo! to the left and vice versa it's all for show.
humans weeping as the robots rise to consume us.
George Orwell would have been just so proud (sic) of his nation's efforts to make his nightmare a reality! ;-(
I get a groovy pop up box to post in! And I no longer have to read more than 20 lines of text at once so stupid people can read the site too! Great, we can communicate with idiots at last.
Oh, and the redesign encourages anonymous posting....we all LOVE that dont we?
Yeah, its a turkey.
So the UK has introduced what has existed in every place on the earth since the invention of the legal system?
Ahh... cold_fjord gives me again the warm fuzzies. Why, after skimming
> It may be a shock to some that the purpose of military bases are not simply to provide optics for protesters. They have an actual function [...]
I says to me: "gee, that *must* be cold_fjord. And cold_fjord it was!
Well, cold_fjord: it may be a shock to you that some actually disagree with some of the purposes in said military bases. And that they have, in a Fucking Democracy the Fucking Right to express their disapproval. Even with (gasp!) public protests.
Get used to that -- or choose another living place where those protests are more restricted. North Korea, perchance?
Slashdot's captcha, as always, creepily sentient: "munition". Gaah.
I guess that interpretation is not going to sit well with merkins like cold fjord et al, though.
So you're already executing people like these other "bad countries" so that one doesn't wash, dear.
I don't think you can call out "they flog people" either, since you still have a 5x the average incarceration rate and these other unnamed and numberless countries' stats aren't showing 5x the number of floggings as detentions, are they?
In the past warrantless detention lead to emigration to the new world
So the question is: where is the new world of today? Space, maybe? Underwater? In the sky?
Police have the powers to arrest for any offence. Although legally symbolic - i.e. the police don't legally need to be carrying one to carry out their duties - force procedure represents this power by constables in the UK being required to carry and show their warrant card.
The meaning here of creating "warrantless offences" is that people without a warrant card, i.e. SOLDIERS, are given the power to arrest CIVILIANS on public land close to a military base.
Is that clear enough for you? A soldier bored with watching you protest can just put you in a headlock and call the police.
if it takes care of the dog crap; then we welcome any law including the death penalty!
...Brazil and Argentina will keep the Malvinas. UK is moving to 2nd and 3rd world status at warp speed and could not repeat the performance of the 80s. Glad I am not a Falklander, they are just SOL.
After the recent persecution/attempted then failed cull, stealth badgers equipped with low-light video systems in their backpacks will be infiltrating the controlled areas to report on suspicious police activity. They are quietly confident, being as how they can't be arrested for shitting in the controlled area, since they aren't dogs.
"Cock Up Your Beaver" does not mean what you think. This sig is intended to clog filters and annoy do-gooders
When I go to slashdot and see the new design on the front page, I now stop and close it before it even finishes loading.
We hear all the time that freedom is not free it must be paid for periodically. Well, I think the western tradition of freedom is under attack and it is time that the citizens of the USA and the UK band agains their governments becoming like the repressive governments of Hitler and Stallen that they supposidly weren't. My only hope is that we have not built up so much "freedom debt" that we must pay for it with violen revolution.
Does anyone have a viable plan to stop this wholesale nonsense?
From the article:
"The MoD insisted it is merely bringing up to date a disparate set of by-laws which were first introduced in 1892, and seeking to bring about a “layered” set of legislation which will increase public access to some military land."
Draconian? LOL! I can't believe they let people in there at all. Furthermore, most of the rules seem to come from the groundskeepers, not spies.
In the U.S. they put up fences and shoot people who go inside.
I think they are more afraid of public protests tarnishing the image of America over seas. (like that is what would cause it) more so than terrorists. What sort of terrorist attacks a military base? They aren't unprotected or civilian and becomes a form of military attack.
I'm not really sure where people are supposed to go when it's time to leave these countries.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
is a failure to pick up dog waste or causing damage to 'any crops, turfs, plants, roots or trees'"
What if I can't pick up after Fido without damaging a crop, turf, plant, root, or tree?
I guess I'm screwed.
Thanks a lot, Fido. No Scooby-Snacks for you!
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
READ "Type 45 destroyer" .....tard!
Falklands is the UK
So, that's how it all begun... Drones going on strike.
And we all know how it well end, right?
The Matrix, taht's it.
-- 29A the number of the Beast