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BigZee writes "For many years, I've used a page-a-day diary as both a planner and a method for taking notes. While not perfect, it's proven to be an approach that's worked fairly well for me. Conscious of the limitations, I want this to become more electronic. In principle, I want to be able to use my Nexus 7 for this function. There are some limitations: My workplace uses MS Outlook. However, I am not able to use Evernote (or similar) on my workplace machine. This limits possible integration along the lines proposed with GTD. What I want is to be able to take notes that are organized by date as well as being integrated to a calendar (preferably Google). Additionally, I want to be able to prioritize my work along lines similar to GTD. I'm not averse to spending money for the right software but prefer to use free software where possible. Can anyone suggest what could be used?" The above-linked Wikipedia page lists some relevant Free software as well as closed-source options. If you use such organizing software, though, how do you use it, and how well do you find it works?

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  1. ActiveInbox by hawkinspeter · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.activeinboxhq.com/index.php/ works with GMail to bring GTD into your email. It works really well, but if you're stuck on outlook then it might not be suitable for you. You can use it for free or pay for more features.

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  2. OneNote by jones_supa · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why do you need the source code?

    Just slap Microsoft OneNote to your Nexus 7 and be done with it. For your work PC, it comes bundled in MS Office.

    1. Re:OneNote by SQLGuru · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes. If your company already runs Microsoft products, One Note will work, can sync to SkyDrive, has Apple and Android clients, can be viewed and edited on the web (via SkyDrive). There are arguments of Evernote vs OneNote, but both are considered best of breed. Since your company limits you to OneNote, the choice is made for you, but it's a good product.
         

    2. Re:OneNote by wiggles · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Whoever modded you a troll should be chastised for misuse of mod points. OneNote is exactly what he needs, and will work with his office software.

      Open Source is great, preferred in many situations, but nothing else will satisfy the poster's compatibility requirements. End of story.

    3. Re: OneNote by ModernGeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The parallels here are so obvious it is laughable. He is trying to take control of his life and you're saying that the control should be handled over to a corporation known to abandon support for it's products as people are still making use of them. All due to a broken business model. GNU/Linux and vi should be enough to get such a simple job done.

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    4. Re: OneNote by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, because no FLOSS projects people can come to rely on are ever abandoned.

      Open source absolutely has a lot of advantages over proprietary software, but let's not pretend that it's not subject to most of the same software engineering concerns. A five-year-old source dump isn't a whole lot of use when it relies on a long-deprecated version of a library (also open source) that's not backward compatible, and so on.

      Yes, with FLOSS, you have the option to become/commission a new maintainer for an entire toolchain, but if you're being practical rather than idealistic, you'd spend so much time and money doing so, you'd never have the opportunity to use it. And gods help you if a second of your beloved applications was abandoned.

  3. Or, stay low tech ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know this goes contrary to what a lot of people here will think, because it ignores the technology aspects we're all so obsessed with.

    Me, I still use the same black lab-books for persistent note-taking I've been using for 20 years.

    I've got a stack of them, numbered and with dated pages. Every time I've looked at an alternative, I've found it cumbersome and less useful, and sooner or later you discover whatever technology du jour you're using has gone away, and you're left finding yet another alternative.

    By all means, apply technology as you see fit. But for some things, many of us have found that old fashioned pen and paper is still superior. Everything else is a temporary solution which will eventually fail on you or go away completely.

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    1. Re:Or, stay low tech ... by vrillusions · · Score: 3, Interesting

      By all means, apply technology as you see fit. But for some things, many of us have found that old fashioned pen and paper is still superior. Everything else is a temporary solution which will eventually fail on you or go away completely.

      I good middle ground is when the page is full take a picture and put it on evernote which will do OCR (so long as you don't write too bad) and then you have an index of all your notes somewhere.

    2. Re:Or, stay low tech ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I good middle ground is when the page is full take a picture and put it on evernote which will do OCR (so long as you don't write too bad) and then you have an index of all your notes somewhere.

      I've found that over the years I've know people who have tried variations on that.

      Eventually it becomes something they deem too cumbersome, or the technology just doesn't work, or any number of things.

      Me, I just keep using old-school lab books. Unless I lose them in a fire, I can usually track down something quickly enough to not bother with anything fancier. It also allows me to have my notes be fairly unstructured, include diagrams, and lots of other things I don't always find a good analog for in digital things.

      Then again, I'm too damned old and cranky to be too much of a slave to technology when I can avoid it. Eventually, with a lot of technology I find it simply more work than going with pen and paper.

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    3. Re:Or, stay low tech ... by Necron69 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm likewise still using lab notebooks for taking notes at work.

      As a bonus, said notebooks are resistant to all known forms of remote NSA eves dropping. For extra security, encrypt it with the 'cursive' algorithm. The kids these days will be completely baffled. :)

      Necron69

    4. Re:Or, stay low tech ... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

      I use legal pads.

      Rare is the meting or conversation that requires more than one page of notes, and very rarely more than two or three. I write the date and a reasonable "title" of whatever is going on at the top of the page.

      Works surprisingly well - thoughts and sketches go on there freeform, any way I want them to, in ways that rarely work well on any screen. I can reorganize my notations in a flash too, if the meeting or my thoughts take a different tack.

      It's easy enough to find stuff later if I want to (though it's surprising how often I don't end up wanting or needing to ... ).

      Between this low tech stuff and my highly searchable email, most of my office needs are covered well.

    5. Re:Or, stay low tech ... by JabberWokky · · Score: 2

      Me, I still use the same black lab-books for persistent note-taking I've been using for 20 years.

      You know, if you've found something great, a bit of specific information would help share that. Brand? Supplier? Buler?

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    6. Re:Or, stay low tech ... by D1G1T · · Score: 2

      I used to try to keep organized using electronic tools, from the old Newton 120 to Ecco Pro to One Note. I found myself fiddling with software way too much. Now I use black lab books (as above) for work tasks, and pocketable moleskine-style books for personal stuff. If I get really busy with multiple tasks, I keep them in a stack of paper on my desk, and sort by priority every morning. If you need more than this, you might be spending too much time on the process of "keeping organized".

    7. Re:Or, stay low tech ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Informative

      You know, if you've found something great, a bit of specific information would help share that. Brand? Supplier? Buler?

      The vast majority of the ones I have are just the standard Blueline hard-cover black lab books you can buy at any Staples or even Wal-Mart.

      Occasionally I'm stuck and can't find one of those, and end up using the store brand, there's not a whole lot of difference. You can stick those little Post-It tabs onto pages you need to find quickly.

      Just a hard-cover, notebook with ruled pages and a 3/4" or so margin at the top and a ruled margin on the left. Not the ones with the perforated pages to be torn out or the coiled binding, the ones with the fully bound pages which are meant to stay put and a pressboard/cardboard cover. Most of them seem to be around 192 pages or so, and are about 9 1/4"x7 1/4" (23.5cmx18.4cm).

      Draw a line from the previous day, write today's date, and get on with it. Always keep a few extra ones on hand for when you reach the end of the one you're working on.

      Slap a label on the spine, put 'em up on your shelf. It really is about as low tech as you can get, but it's been how I've kept notes for a very long time.

      I've heard them called engineering notebooks, lab books, scientific notebooks. They're pretty common and easy to find, and several different companies make more or less the exact same thing.

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    8. Re:Or, stay low tech ... by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It also allows me to have my notes be fairly unstructured, include diagrams, and lots of other things I don't always find a good analog for in digital things.

      This is what OneNote on a tablet with a stylus should have been good for. Unfortunately, as soon as tablets quit being impractical because they were too heavy and expensive, they started being impractical because they'd lost their styluses.

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    9. Re:Or, stay low tech ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cursive, the original elliptic curve cryptography.

  4. Why be more electronic? by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your planner and notebook dont run out of batteries, work when (mostly) wet, are readable in sunlight, and offer many advantages over electronic forms. Analog is sometimes better than digital.

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  5. Try Google Keep by beenThereBefore · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have been using Google Keep. https://www.google.com/keep While not great it is adequate. Integrates with google account, although better integration with calendar would be cool. Works with google drive. Posting because some organizations are more open to letting you use google apps. Google keep is relatively new and seems not a lot of people have found it. Here is a pretty good review of Google Keep. http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/google-in-the-enterprise/five-things-worth-noting-about-google-keep/

    1. Re:Try Google Keep by Chemisor · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know about you, but I have no intention of letting google know what I'm doing on a day to day basis. So no, I won't try Google Keep.

    2. Re:Try Google Keep by Grishnakh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not a good idea; it'll probably be taken down by Google sometime in the near future. I've never heard of Keep, and I've noticed that Google frequently discontinues products I haven't heard of, so I expect to see an announcement any day now, now that I've heard of it thanks to you, that Google Keep is being shut down as it wasn't popular enough.

      Relying on any Google product for long-term use is a bad idea for this reason alone, unless it's one of their extremely core products (search, mail, maps).

    3. Re:Try Google Keep by Fencepost · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know about you, but I have no intention of depending on any Google product for something that I wish to have available for long periods of time.

      And yes, I know about their export capabilities. It only marginally improves matters.

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  6. Org-Mode in Emacs by TheNarrator · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's really a "geek only" tool but emacs org-mode is great for me for organizing my work. The big plus is that the format is plain text so you can use version control to manage it. I use drop box and leave the files on there. I usually use one per project and then a master file.

    Here's a specific guide to using it with GTD: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-gtd-etc.html

  7. Tiddlywiki by curril · · Score: 3, Interesting

    TiddlyWiki is a self-contained app stored in an HTML file that you can store on a USB, Dropbox, or elsewhere. People have written GTD add-ons for it and it is easy to write your own customizations. There is an Android app to help run it on Android systems and the new version uses HTML 5 with option to use node.js to make it even more powerful.

    1. Re:Tiddlywiki by curril · · Score: 2

      The TiddlyFox plug-in for FireFox is supposed to work on Android, I have used the AndTidWiki app on Android with the older version. The main problem is getting it to save the file as browsers work to prevent that for security reasons.

    2. Re:Tiddlywiki by progman32 · · Score: 2

      A plug for DokuWiki, which was easy to set up on my personal server. No database, everything is in a collection of text files. The markup is simple and readable. Plugins exist for export to things like PDF, or I can dump the entire thing as plain HTML. This all adds up to a clean exit strategy when required. Mobile editing is an issue (UI usability), but my use case doesn't call for much of that. There is a theme available for mobile viewing. I pair my setup with HTTP auth and HTTPS, so I'm fairly confident in the security as well.

      I use the wiki for more structured notes or things that change often. Paper is for more ephemeral stuff. I haven't had much reason to crosslink the two, but I'm still working on the system.

  8. I use Zim plus Dropbox by hduff · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I use the Zim Desktop Wiki http://zim-wiki.org/ plus Dropbox.

    Zim is a graphical text editor used to maintain a collection of wiki pages. Each page can contain links to other pages, simple formatting and images. Pages are stored in a folder structure, like in an outliner, and can have attachments. Creating a new page is as easy as linking to a nonexistent page. All data is stored in plain text files with wiki formatting. Various plugins provide additional functionality, like a task list manager, an equation editor, a tray icon, and support for version control.
    If you need version control, Zim supports Bazaar, Git, and Mercurial as backends.

    Zim is not network aware, so I just keep its ~/Notes files in my Dropbox folder, install that and the desktop Linux/Windows/OSX Zim client as needed and I'm good to go.

    Unfortunately, there is no smartphone version of Zim, but I have little need for a smartpone app of this sort. I do email myself info as needed to integrate into Zim later.

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    1. Re:I use Zim plus Dropbox by dovf · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, there is no smartphone version of Zim, but I have little need for a smartpone app of this sort. I do email myself info as needed to integrate into Zim later.

      Actually, Zim exists for the N900 -- in fact, I first heard about it that way. Or is it not considered a smartphone if it doesn't run Android or iOS? :P

  9. KDE Kolab by rdnetto · · Score: 2

    I'm currently in the process of setting up something like this.
    Kolab is a FOSS groupware server that can synchronize emails, to do lists, calenders, notes, etc. across multiple devices. You can access it from the included web interface (roundcube), the recommended client (Kontact), or via Outlook with the connector installed. Android support is available via ActiveSync, and I believe Kontact Touch will be ported to Android now that Qt 5 supports it.)

    If you're not interested in running your own server, there're also sites like this which sell accounts.

    Here are some notes on my experiences setting it up, for anyone interested:

    • Make sure you read the documentation first, because Kolab is too complex to just jump right in and hit the ground running. In particular, make sure you have a FQDN
    • Kolab pulls in a bunch of different daemons, including apache2, cyrus, mysql, postfix, slapd, clamav. It's a fairly heavy-weight solution, since it was developed with enterprise users in mind.
    • Multiple users can use a single installation. Users can be added/removed from a web interface.
    • By default, nothing uses SSL. This is undesirable if you're planning on connecting to it over the internet. The LDAP server uses a different SSL stack to the rest of the daemons (NSS), and you'll definitely want to run it over SSL because it sends passwords in plaintext. The easiest solution I found was to create a CA cert with certutil, use that to create the certificate for use with LDAP, then export that certificate to PEM format and use it for everything else. LDAP needs to be configured online, but all the other daemons just have configuration files with entries for the path to the certificates.
    • On some distros, Kontact may not be compiled with Kolab support. (e.g. Sabayon)
    • RSS syncing is currently the only feature in Kontact that doesn't sync with Kolab (AFAIK), although you can embed tt-rss in the web interface.
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  10. Wiki by Eric+Coleman · · Score: 2

    I use a wiki. Specifically, I use OpenWikiNG, http://sourceforge.net/projects/openwiki-ng/ , however, any wiki software would work. My reason for using OpenWikiNG is that I largely use windows and the software is ASP based and can work with a simple Access database. The way I have it setup, and in hindsight, I would do this differently now, is that I use the personal web server that comes with Windows on my personal home desktop. With the access database, I don't have to worry about some heavy database engine. Since I'm the only user, this has been a very stable setup and trivially easy to migrate to a new machine when needed. Another reason I use OpenWikiNG is that it's open source, very simple, and somewhat easy to hack. It works for me, and that's all I care about.

    With wake on LAN capability, I can VPN into my home network and wake my machine if I need remote access. And since this is a wiki, I don't have to install any software on any other device. All I need is a web browser.

    In terms of usage, I have my wiki start page as my browser's home page. I have links to site I visit often, some RSS feeds, my daily schedule, even some emails and phone numbers. I use the wiki as sort of a second brain. I have pages where I put my ideas, pages where I put things that are important, things I might need, and all sorts of other resources from computers to food. My personal wiki is a much better bookmarking system than what any browser could ever come up with. I can easily annotate information that I add, and most importantly, I can search.

    To give the benefit of my hindsight, I would probably want to use a dedicated LAMP server on my home network. And I would consider something with better file and image management, as OpenWikiNG really sucks at that. To really find something that would suit one's personal taste, I suggest looking at http://www.wikimatrix.org/ to compare them. I have a lot of stuff in my personal wiki, and converting it to some other format really seems like a hassle. So, if you do this, pick a wiki you're comfortable with. The more time you spend using it, the more you lock yourself in.

  11. onenote... is a ripoff of 1990's lotus organizer by xeno · · Score: 2

    It's funny to see comments praising OneNote as the best thing since sliced bread...

    Don't get me wrong, I like OneNote, and use it at work. But in a moment of snark I dug up a copy of Lotus Organizer 6 (from 1999) and installed it on my Win8 work machine. Lo and behold, I can keep notes in a multi-tabbed interface. I can format them all kinds of ways, add pictures, embed doc and ppt files, share the org file with other users, and generally do anything OneNote can do. I can keep a full calendar, manage contacts, track tasks, and keep linked notes. .. And then there are the things Organizer does that OneNote couldn't do... until v2013. In OneNote 2010, if you pasted in a table, you couldn't even select a column to format it -- OneNote mishandles it as line text. Track changes (which Organizer doesn't have at all) broke all the time in 2010 and doesn't survive more than a couple users in 2013; OneNote still totally trashes style data from other Office products, so you can't roundtrip text from a mildly complex word doc back into that doc without hosing the final. Embedding a ppt or xls table into OneNote would consistently get corrupted from editing collisions on a shared .one file. But Organizer would defer to the linked file and survive multi-user editing. Hah, funny.

    Everything old is new again, with Redmond's fresh coat of pastels and waaaaay too much whitespace in the UI. Then again, these products are sinkholes for data -- from the latest .ONE file format back to the decade-plus-old .ORG-.OR6 file formats -- it's difficult to extract your stuff in usable ways when the format dies. Not that Microsoft, Google, IBM/Lotus, or other big companies would do that. Repeatedly. Predictably. Dependably. (E.g. Microsoft Office has trouble importing ... Microsoft Office files from 15 years ago, produced while working *at* Microsoft, FFS.) Tho it's much more limited to notes, Zim is really attractive in that regard: everything is saved in an open/documented non-binary format that'll be readable/recoverable when there's time to dig thru this crap when I'm old/near death.

    Meanwhile in the real world, for just making notes and getting crap done quickly and effectively, the ubiquitous lab/moleskine/black notebook is the way to go.

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  12. Conspicuously absent by skids · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The first time I got an Android, I was utterly appalled that there was no note editing app in the base install.

    I went looking for combined note/voice-note/picture/calander organizing apps. Most had too many strings attached (specific cloud-service sync options, or whatnot.) All of them lacked the ability to quickly procrastinate a task. You'd think that would be an obvious feature, but no. I went back to just remembering stuff with wetware. By the time my wetware starts to wear out, hopefully there will be something suitable.