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Finnish HIV Vaccine Testing To Begin
First time accepted submitter ultranova writes with news of a new phase in trials for an HIV vaccine. From the article: "Some 1,000 patients throughout France and Switzerland will take part on the trials, with the first phase involving hundreds of HIV sufferers. Participant numbers will increase as the program progresses. ... According to Reijonen, the GTU technology developed by FIT Biotech is also suitable for use as a preventive HIV vaccine, however, he says that such a drug is still ten years away.The central idea behind HIV vaccine development is the use of genetic immunization. Genes are introduced into the body in order to generate a controlled immune response against HIV. Gene Transport Unit (or GTU) technology refers to FIT Biotech’s patented method by which genes can be safely introduced into the body."
I thought a "vaccine" was something you got to prevent you getting a disease, and a "cure" was something you got to rid you of a disease.
Is it a "vaccine" if they are testing it on people who already have HIV? Seems more like they are testing it as a "cure?"
Or do words not mean things anymore?
Always 10 years away?
Finish to Begin or Begin to Finish. Either way, they will be back where they started...
HIV vaccines that go back in time are the best in the world!
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It's Finnish before it's even begun!
Since HIV is not the cause of 'AIDS', and 99% of Slashdotters don't even know what 'AIDS' is, and since Jenner was a well known fraudster, and there is no such thing as 'vaccination', this is yet another fraud on the HIV gravy train... Sickening.
The definition of so-called 'AIDS' is:
Indicator disease + HIV = 'AIDS'
Indicator disease - HIV = Indicator disease.
It is a circular definition. It is a massive, ongoing fraud, perpetrated by so-called 'researchers' and pharmaceutical companies.
Secondly, since when did a so-called 'vaccine' CURE a disease which you already have? I thought 'vaccines' were supposed to PREVENT you from being infected in the first place?
http://healtoronto.com/10reasons.html
It's all over the internet. Yet another huge FRAUD that has been exposed on hundreds of websites, yet the general public believe whatever the T.V. tells them, and are too STUPID to question - just like the Slashdot crowd, who will rush to the defence of the 'scientists' - LOL.
We already have a difficult time maintaining herd immunity through inoculation because of the autism FUD.
I imagine there will be resistance to an HIV shot in some circles.
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Better shut them down within 10 years or deal with market pressures!
The most amazing thing about this vaccine is that it's a tachyon based vaccine.
First the testing is Finnish, and now it begins.
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Always 10 years away?
Yes, when it comes to these high tech innovation announcements like uber-efficient solar cells, flying cars, hydogen fuel cells, hyper storage batteries, optical computers smaller than a warehouse, whatever... its' always the Lewis Carroll quote that is apropos:
"Jam to-morrow, jam yesterday, but never jam today."
A perfect liberal response. Do what I say or I will have you killed. Just what I would expect a compasionate liberal to say.
Now if we could just ban people who want to run other people's lives like this guy from public office.
Pro tip: This is a vaccine for AFTER you are infected, the preventative one is over 10 years off. Get off your talking points long enough to at least read the summary.
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I'm confused.
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
The issue here is the distinction between Prophylactic Vaccines and Therapeutic Vaccines .
The OP's confusion is understandable, as the vast majority of vaccines in clinical use are purely Prophylactic in nature, functioning solely as preventatives; these have little or no utility when administered after infection has taken place. Such vaccines are typically heavily dependent on Humoral Immunity, which may take several weeks time to reach maximum effectiveness, and maybe an additional dose or two.
This delay means the vaccine is of little use in acute infectious diseases (which run their course in a relatively short length of time). In chronic diseases, the infectious agent may be around longer, but usually by that time the immune system is already generating an appropriate response to the naturally occurring disease agent -- in other words, the advantage of the vaccine was purely in helping the immune system get there "first-est with the most-est", and you've already lost that advantage in waiting.
The number of Therapeutic Vaccines is relatively small, but a good example of one such entity is the Rabies Vaccine (which is both a Prophylactic and Therapeutic Vaccine) -- which manages to work post-exposure in part due to the time lag before the virus succeeds in penetrating the central nervous system. The case for most HIV therapeutic vaccine candidates I've seen, is in the argument that an HIV infection mis-directs the immune system that can be corrected; most such candidates attempt to enhance the Cell-Mediated Immune response, which appears to be particularly vital to the anti-HIV immune response. However, several such agents have been tried in the past, and all have failed in testing.
This scenario may take place pretty soon then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdrcOGoszlE
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
“Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between 1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diphtheria, and measles occurred before the introduction of immunisations and antibiotics.” Dr. Archie Kalokerinos, M.D. PhD
Are vaccinations safe and effective? Historical trends show that deaths caused by childhood illnesses had already declined as much as 90% before vaccine programs were ever initiated. Evidence indicates that an improved standard of living, better nutrition, and increased sanitation, caused this drop in disease, not vaccines.
“In 1954 the Americans pushed forward a polio campaign. What happened within the first year was that to their horror they found that particularily one type of the polio vaccine was causing polio. Because the vaccine is not a killed virus, your giving polio in a partly killed form. They got rid of that particular type of the vaccine. Then they realized that all the forms of the polio vaccine caused polio. So what they did is redefine it. They only called it polio if you still had paralysis after 60 days. Now in most cases polio paralysis resolves after a few days. So that's how the statistics of polio went down. By changing the definitions.” Dr. David Ritchie
“Polio has not been eradicated by vaccination, it is lurking behind a redefinition and new diagnostic names like viral or aseptic meningitis...According to one of the 1997 issues of the MMWR there are some 30,000 to 50,000 cases of viral meningitis in the United States alone. That's where all those 30,000 - 50,000 cases of polio disappeared after the introduction of mass vaccination” Dr. Vera Schiebner
Back to "sufferers" are we?