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Bill Nye To Debate Creationist Museum Founder Ken Ham

New submitter cusco writes "Creation Museum Founder and AiG President/CEO Ken Ham will debate Bill Nye at the Creation Museum on Tuesday, February 4, at 7 PM. According to the Washington Post, 'Ham had been hoping to attract the star of TV's 'Bill Nye The Science Guy' to the northern Kentucky museum after Nye said in an online video last year that teaching creationism was bad for children. The video was viewed nearly 6 million times on YouTube.'"

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  1. Oh the bible, you make me laugh..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother
    me, it is the parts that I do understand.
    -Mark Twain

    One does well to put on gloves when reading the New Testament; the
    proximity of so much impurity almost compels to this...I have searched
    in it vainly for even a single congenial trait...everything in it is
    cowardice and self-deception.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    The inspiration of the Bible depends upon the ignorance of the
    gentleman who reads it.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1833-1899)

    There can be no doubt that the Bible...became a stumbling-block in the
    path of progress, scientific, social and even moral. It was quoted
    against Copernicus as it was against Darwin.
    -Preserved Smith

    So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in
    praise of intelligence.
    -Bertrand Russell

    With so many intelligent people warning you about it, perhaps you
    should avoid it

  2. We should probably expand AIG in that summary by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Informative

    The AiG this guy is from is the young-earth creationist group, with a lower-case "i". The AIG we hear of more often in the media is the "American Insurance Group", which is not related. The font that slashdot renders this in does not help in distinguishing a lower-case from a capiltalized I.

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  3. Re:Bad call by Tom · · Score: 1, Informative

    This, a thousand times. You especially don't battle them on their own turf, giving credibility not only to the idiot, but also to his idiot theme park.

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  4. Re:Waste of Time by Xaedalus · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's called biblical ineffability--it's the idea that the Bible is NOT the literal Word of God, it is an allusion-and-metaphor filled collection of memoirs and tales by prophets inspired by God, and must be treated as such. Adopting that viewpoint allows one to read through the Bible as a rough guide, using critical thinking and personal experience to figure out for oneself what God or His prophets are saying.

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  5. Excercise in Futility by organgtool · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference"

    Besides the advice in that quote, the outcome of this "debate" won't change a thing. Creationists argue from emotional responses generated in their amygdalas. You can't change their minds with facts and reasoning because they are not open to the possibility of being wrong or learning something new. If it's possible to change their minds at all, and that's a pretty big "if", you will have to first win them over emotionally before they will let their guards down and attempt to actually follow the lines of reasoning you lay down for them. The most likely outcome in this debate is that you stomp the creationists with facts which will cause the people on your side to feel that they have won, but the reality is that you will probably be perceived by your opposition as a pompous jerk who is attempting to destroy their belief system just for fun, causing the rift between the two sides to grow bigger.

  6. It is impossible to debate a creationist by harvestsun · · Score: 5, Informative

    Debates are built on logic and facts.

    Creationists choose faith over logic and facts. This isn't me being judgmental; they openly admit this, and take pride in it.

  7. Re:Bad call by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2, Informative

    When God says "I am" and the muslims say "you are not, you're just a prophet", then clearly they aren't the same.

    Umm, no. The "you are not, you're just a prophet" is directed at Jesus, not Yahweh. Islam accepts Jesus as a Prophet (like Mohammed), but denies his divinity.

    However, the God is Islam is the same as the God of Christianity and Judaism....

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  8. Re:This should be good! by gameboyhippo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think you would find Dr. Ross to be quite open minded and not anti-science. But he is in fact a creationist... He's even debated Ken Ham: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgueGotRqbM

  9. Re:Bad call by arth1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not many atheists go to warlord controlled countries to delivery medical supplies while unarmed and unprotected.

    You are quite wrong there. Doctors Without Borders have quite a few atheists working for them. Humanists in general are quite empathic and helpful.