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Chinese Icebreaker Is Stuck In Ice After Antarctic Research Vessel Rescue

New submitter Cochonou writes "In an unforeseen turn of events, the Sydney Morning Herald reports that the Chinese icebreaker Xue Long is now stuck in heavy Antarctic pack ice, just a day after its helicopter was used for the rescue of the passengers onboard the ice-trapped MV Akademik Shokalskiy. The Australian icebreaker Aurora Australis, which is now carrying the passengers of the Shokalskiy, has been placed on standby to assist. The Chinese vessel is waiting for favorable tidal conditions on Saturday to make another attempt at freeing itself."

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  1. Re:Just remember now... by SJHillman · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Don't forget that Antarctica was void of ice during the Mesozoic era. It was pretty warm then."

    As I recall, Antarctica as also north of Australia at that time, and just south of Africa and South America (as in you could walk from one to the other).

  2. Re:Just remember now... by Eunuchswear · · Score: 3, Informative

    Its not easy to validate when you cannot get your hands on their raw data. You only get summary reports from the "climate scientists"!

    You can't?

    Have you tried?

    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/#Climate_data_raw

    What exciting analysis are you going to do with this data now I've told you how to get it?

    How come you didn't find it using Google? It's the first result.

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  3. Re:International cooperation by bob_super · · Score: 4, Informative

    Millenia-old "law" of the high seas: A ship is in distress, all ships capable of safely helping shall reroute to assist.

    No-one who sails for a living wants to be the guy known to break that sacred rule.

  4. Re:Just remember now... by tbannist · · Score: 3, Informative

    First, it is important to note that Dr. Roy Spencer has a track record of providing misinformation on climate issues.

    Looking at his graph and notes, I don't understand why he chose 1979 as the starting period for his graph, and what he's done to model runs that start after 1979 to extend their trend lines backwards. I would expect a single line with many points of divergence along it to show where each model begins to overestimate warming, the fact that they all seem to start overestimating by 1982 is a clue that someone is playing games with the data. Furthermore, just from looking at the graph it appears to be indicating that the average of the models is between 0.3 and 0.4 degrees per decade. That is significantly higher than the average from the IPCC1 report (which was between 0.15 and 0.3 degrees per decade) so where are these numbers coming from? Did Spencer cherry-pick the worst performing models for his graph or did he alter the results produce by the models in some way? The attached commentary doesn't provide the data or explain the methodology used to generate the graph.

    Additionally, the only two reference points are an average of two sets of satellite data and 4 balloons? Where are the ground temperature series in this graph?

    Skeptical Science has posted several blog posts that show a much closer match between models and observation, so I'm inclined to believe that Spencer screwed it up unintentionally or otherwise.

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