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First US Public Library With No Paper Books Opens In Texas

cold fjord writes "Bexar Country in Texas has opened a new $2.3 million library called BiblioTech. It doesn't have physical books, only computers and e-reader tablets. It is the first bookless public library system in the U.S. The library opened in an area without nearby bookstores, and is receiving considerable attention. It has drawn visitors from around the U.S. and overseas that are studying the concept for their own use. It appears that the library will have more than 100,000 visitors by year's end. Going without physical books has been cost effective from an architecture standpoint, since the building doesn't have to support the weight of books and bookshelves. A new, smaller library in a nearby town cost $1 million more than Bexar Country's new library. So far there doesn't appear to be a problem with returning checked out e-readers. A new state law in Texas defines the failure to return library books as theft."

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  1. Presidential Library? by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is it a presidential library, perchance?

  2. Why bother by jabberw0k · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A library without books is... pointless. Why not just build a Starbucks or a McDonalds. Or, actually, an empty room. What a waste.

    1. Re:Why bother by cold+fjord · · Score: 2

      e-books

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    2. Re:Why bother by LikwidCirkel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're confusing medium with content. Physical books are not important in themselves - it's the content within them that's important, and that does not have to be tied to a particular medium. One can be very well-read nowadays without ever laying hands on dead trees.

    3. Re:Why bother by arobatino · · Score: 2

      Exactly. If the content is available digitally, they should put up a website like Open Library so people anywhere in the world can access it.

    4. Re:Why bother by TheloniousToady · · Score: 4, Informative

      The computers at libraries such as this one seem to be quite a useful public service. Every time I go to my local public library, the computers are mostly all in use. They provide Internet access for people who can't afford it themselves, notably people who are out of a job and need to fill out a job application online, as is now commonly required.

    5. Re:Why bother by jabberw0k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If I wanted to read the Internet, I could stay home. Print on paper is an utterly different experience. You know -- Tactile, spatial (how far into the book you are, what side of the page) -- not to mention, you can slip bookmarks into pages, photocopy them, and pass them around between several people.

      When I check half a dozen books out of the library, I read one, I pass it along to Mom while she's reading another, and to Dad, and my brother... How do you propose doing that with a bunch of e-books?

    6. Re:Why bother by ranton · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A library without books is... pointless.

      A library which focuses primarily on books is ... almost pointless.

      Libraries are there to help improve the general level of education of the nearby population. Storing and lending books were by far the most important functions of libraries when books were the primary source of information in our culture. That is not even close to true anymore. I spend over $200 per month on books at Amazon each month, so I am a heavy reader, but I still consume most information online. And I was a holdout when it came to getting an e-reader, but over half of my book reading is now done on my iPad. In fact the reason I finally bought an iPad last year is because I found myself reading books from my phone far more often than reading paper books, and I wanted a better form factor.

      Like it or not, the Internet is a better source of most information now. So libraries need to adapt to that in order to perform their function as education centers. That means more real estate for computers and less for books. With less emphasis on books libraries can also focus on more personal relationships with the community. I go to about five lectures at my local library per year and find them very interesting. I think other services like tutoring and job skill training make a lot of sense in modern libraries as well. I know my local library has many classes each season such as basic accounting, how to appeal your real estate assessment, computer training, etc. These are all far more important than renting out books IMHO.

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    7. Re:Why bother by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2

      A library without books is... pointless. Why not just build a Starbucks or a McDonalds. Or, actually, an empty room. What a waste.

      Not at all. Libraries are only superficially about books. What they are really about is knowledge and that comes in many forms. That's why libraries have music and films too and why they are starting to include makerspaces.

      My concern with something like this is that some libraries are swayed by the arguments for DRM. But there is the beginning of a movement for libraries to crowd traditional publishers out of their niche which should mean DRM is completely out of the picture in those cases.

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    8. Re:Why bother by dj245 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A library without books is... pointless.

      A library which focuses primarily on books is ... almost pointless.

      Libraries are there to help improve the general level of education of the nearby population. Storing and lending books were by far the most important functions of libraries when books were the primary source of information in our culture. That is not even close to true anymore. I spend over $200 per month on books at Amazon each month, so I am a heavy reader, but I still consume most information online. And I was a holdout when it came to getting an e-reader, but over half of my book reading is now done on my iPad. In fact the reason I finally bought an iPad last year is because I found myself reading books from my phone far more often than reading paper books, and I wanted a better form factor.

      Like it or not, the Internet is a better source of most information now. So libraries need to adapt to that in order to perform their function as education centers. That means more real estate for computers and less for books. With less emphasis on books libraries can also focus on more personal relationships with the community. I go to about five lectures at my local library per year and find them very interesting. I think other services like tutoring and job skill training make a lot of sense in modern libraries as well. I know my local library has many classes each season such as basic accounting, how to appeal your real estate assessment, computer training, etc. These are all far more important than renting out books IMHO.

      The problem with a library full of e-books currently is the licensing, which the 'article' unhelpfully doesn't discuss at all. Libraries buy books and they own them. Or people can donate books and then the library owns them. You don't own an e-book, you license it. Most licenses for ebooks for libraries go on a per-checkout model where the library has to pay for each checkout. Suddenly the library isn't a place where you can buy a book, read it once, donate it to the library, and support them that way.

      If the library owns the books, then they have a collection, and that collection is a community asset. If the library has to pay for each checkout, I feel that any donation is just subsidizing poor/cheap people's amazon ebook purchases. You can't donate ebooks to the library so all this money has to come from taxes/cash donations. Ultimately at that point the library is an expensive internet cafe and a place taxpayer money is funneled into Amazon in an inefficient way.

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    9. Re:Why bother by icebike · · Score: 2

      If I wanted to read the Internet, I could stay home. Print on paper is an utterly different experience. You know -- Tactile, spatial (how far into the book you are, what side of the page) -- not to mention, you can slip bookmarks into pages, photocopy them, and pass them around between several people.

      When I check half a dozen books out of the library, I read one, I pass it along to Mom while she's reading another, and to Dad, and my brother... How do you propose doing that with a bunch of e-books?

      And buggy whips are a whole lot better experience than stepping on the accelerator. (except for the horse)

      Come on, waxing eloquent about past has been a tired cliche since the Pleistocene.

      Books are heavy, cumbersome to hold, impossible to operate with one hand, subject to wear and tear, and take up a whole bunch of room.

      As for the passing along of ebooks, its easy. Since you all read the same books, put all your e-readers on the same account. Done.
      I seldom take more than one book out of my library at once, because I do it on the e-reader, and can return it and have another in about 26 seconds. But of I'm going on vacation and won't be near wifi, I can download a couple dozen. (I've got three months worth of purchased reading on the ereader at any one time).

      Granted, Books are better when there are maps involved, (history books), or extensive cross referencing needed, but for most reading ebooks are just fine, and you can hold the reader in one hand, and fit it in your pocket.

      Pick any E-reader and try it out. they are getting dirt cheap. Get one that can borrow from your local library, as well as any library where you can get a library card. And also access all the free ebook sites (there are dozens).

      Ok, I'm getting off your lawn.

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    10. Re:Why bother by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 2

      If a library costs $1.5m more to build and probably tens of thousands of dollars per year more to maintain with shelving and cataloging etc then you can afford to take that $1.5m put it into a trust and probably pay the entirety of your annual licensing fees out of the trust's Capitol Gains.

      Checking out a book costs a library about $0.50 per checkout. And a hardback book costs about $27. The average checkouts per year for a book is 23. That means a library per hardback book pays $11.50 per year per book in checkout expenses even if it was donated but if we assume a book has a 4 year life then the life cost of a physical book is $46. W/ the hardback book costs added in it becomes more like $73. With some estimates of replacements only every 2 years that would increase to nearly $100.

      An average ebook for a library is about $75. That's pretty comparable to 3 years of physical book expenses. If you bought e-books with your $1.5m in infrastructure savings fund (Let's say 8% return) then you would be looking at 1,600 new e-books every year added to your 'collection' for free. I doubt the average library gets 1,600 new physical books donated every year. In 3 years when you would be re-buying many of your physical books your e-book library would have an additional 4,800 books.

      You commit the fallacy of believing that physical assets don't depreciate and need replacement over time.

    11. Re:Why bother by celle · · Score: 2

      "Physical books are not important in themselves - it's the content within them that's important, and that does not have to be tied to a particular medium."

            Longevity, consistency, and usability of the medium is important. Dead trees last centuries, epads don't survive the first hard drop. Content on dead trees is permanent, content on epads can be changed at any time to suit or manipulate current events. Open a book and read, no power, range, or other limits and visual issues have been worked out for centuries. A epad still has eye strain issues, headaches, power limits, and range if using wi-fi.
                The content is only useful if it's around when you need it.

    12. Re:Why bother by couchslug · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What you describe is common. When I was unemployed I spoke to many folks who had to rely on the library or the PCs at the unemployment office to searcha and manage job applications as well as their unemployment insurance documentation.
      Internet access is a necessity for the unemployed.

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  3. Makes Sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Every time I've visited a library in the UK all the users are just browsing Facebook or playing games on the computers, or lending out DVDs of Hollywood movies. Cutting out the books entirely would seem like a sensible move because nobody seems to read them.

    1. Re:Makes Sense by justthinkit · · Score: 2

      My trip to the library to pick up books takes all of two minutes. Go in, pick up holds, check them out, leave. Facebook dude is there for who knows how long. No comparison.

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  4. 10,000 books? by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 3, Informative
    " BiblioTech purchases its 10,000-title digital collection for the same price as physical copies, but the county saved millions on architecture because the building's design didn't need to accommodate printed books."

    10,000 books? WTF? Even if they're sloggy PDF files at 5 megs each, that's only 50GB of books. You could fit that on a USB Key. I have 60,000 books on a drive. They're assembled as a collection in Calibre, and then indexed in Dropout. I can get any piece of data I want from them. My Personal Portable Library five times larger and thousands of times more useful than BiblioTech. What a pathetic piece of crap.

    There are plenty of online book sharing sites with millions of books available. For Free. Assemble your library NOW before the authorities shut it all down by force, or the neoliberal fuquads running the tech companies make it impossible by altering the direction of technology (dumb datapads hooked to private clouds is the first step...)

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    1. Re:10,000 books? by etash · · Score: 2

      care to provide one such link for a site will millions of (free) books available (other than project gutenberg) - preferrably with the possibility to for batch downloading the whole archive ? and no I don't mean a LMGTFY link

    2. Re:10,000 books? by icebike · · Score: 2

      care to provide one such link for a site will millions of (free) books available (other than project gutenberg) - preferrably with the possibility to for batch downloading the whole archive ? and no I don't mean a LMGTFY link

      There are at least a dozen, (and NO, you don't get to dismiss Gutenberg out of hand).
      Barnes and Nobel, Amazon, and Google all have scads of free titles. (You just have to know how to search).
      https://openlibrary.org/ over a million titles.
      There are several "lending" libraries that pool ebooks so you can borrow through OpenLibrary.org https://openlibrary.org/libraries (scroll down).

      You don't have enough time in your remaining life to read the number of freely available ebooks that a simple web search will turn up.

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  5. Why NOT bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    while paper books actually do have some advantages...most libraries do not carry multiple copies of that book. A major advantage here is that every one of their readers can have the exact same book on it at the exact same time so 12 people in 12 households can all enjoy it at the same time.

    Secondly, if you read the article, this is actually a poorer area of the city in which many households do not have internet access. So putting it all on the web would still NOT benefit them.

    Do I think there should be an online library? Of course, its ridiculous that we do not have one yet in fact. Its a holdover from money-grubbing publication houses who want to continue to create an artificial scarcity of their product to keep prices higher than they should be. But is this a bad idea? A waste of money or time? Not at all, its a step in the right direction, and a big one at that.

    1. Re:Why NOT bother? by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 4, Insightful

      while paper books actually do have some advantages...most libraries do not carry multiple copies of that book. A major advantage here is that every one of their readers can have the exact same book on it at the exact same time so 12 people in 12 households can all enjoy it at the same time.

      Except reality doesn't work that way. Those wacky rights-holders still expect to be paid for content. Whoda thunk it?

      Electronic libraries have been around for years. Other than the paper, they work pretty much the same. The library licenses the content and is allowed to lend out X copies of the titles they license. If X+8 people want to borrow the same title, the 8 go on a wait list just like they would for a paper book. And the libraries often only have partial collections. They may have 1, 2, 3, 5, and 7 of a series but not books 4 and 6. Why? Heck if I know but they do. Or sometimes they'll have the entire series but only 1 copy for each book so it can take forever to get them all in the correct order because book 3 has a wait list of 40 people.

    2. Re:Why NOT bother? by davester666 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      don't forget about expiring books. publishers also have 'can only lend X times' terms as well. the library might pay less for the book initially, but over time it is likely they will pay more if the book is at all popular.

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    3. Re:Why NOT bother? by icebike · · Score: 2

      The other nice thing about this is that the libraries usually work through a company like Overdrive which allows them to get 8 copies of popular books, and then reduce the number of copies as demand slacks off, and move those copies to newer or more popular titles.

      That means instead of there being exactly one book in the inventory, there may be 3 or 8.

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    4. Re:Why NOT bother? by PvtVoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In short: Artificial Scarcity is economically untenable

      Tell that to de Beers.

      But I think you're right that infinite supply pushes things to zero price. I also think that writers are going to continue to write, because writers have to write. Poverty is already the norm for writers, and chopping off the very top of the bell curve, i.e. those vanishingly few writers who do manage to pull in mega-bucks, probably won't influence the quality of literature much at all. It might even improve it.

      I worry more about journalism. We desperately need to maintain a corps of professional, quality journalists to maintain a functioning democracy. And they have to not only be paid, but have their professional work (foreign correspondents, investigative reporters) properly financed. That's expensive, and advertising support is probably going to be a failing model going forward. Likewise subscriptions. The best television journalism right now is either privately financed (Al Jazeera) or publicly financed (BBC). In the U.S., we're stuck with Anderson Cooper.

  6. Subscriptions that don't cover remote access by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    If I wanted to read the Internet, I could stay home.

    And lose access to the paywalled resources to which your library subscribes for use within its facilities.

    1. Re:Subscriptions that don't cover remote access by dasunt · · Score: 2

      Which is exactly WHAT for a municipal library?

      At my library, it's too numerous to list them all.

      If you're looking for access to historical records, or modern journals, research, etc, you should check out your local library's digital content.

  7. InfoTrac by tepples · · Score: 2

    Which is exactly WHAT for a municipal library?

    In the early 1990s, students at my middle school were required to make a speech about a controversial topic based on research. A common method for this was to use the "InfoTrac" system on the catalog terminals to select, preview, and print articles. Another was the "SirS" binders.

  8. Re:Both the reader and the copyright licenses by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    Talk to a librarian about the cost of replacing popular dead tree books. It's significant. Will it be more or less than e readers? Hard to know. But some libraries spend upwards of 10% of their budget replacing books (number obtained from a conversation with a local librarian, YMMV).

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  9. Re:the Internet is a better source? by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Okay, time to bring up a new topic.

    I completely disagree that the internet is a "better source". It's a stunning *complementary source*. But books (medium, to be discussed later) are the exclusive domain of a ton of "long form content" with certain types of structure that don't really exist per se in the internet.

    The big elephant in the room I still don't see really taken seriously is ... Print On Demand.

    Clearly if someone has the digital file en masse for these kinds of e-libraries, then it's "not hard" to POD it. Then people could get their cumulative favorite 100 "tree books", but the library doesn't have to stock the massive 30,000 item collection with Long Tail problems.

    POD is here. *Five years ago* the Hardvard book store had a prototype (cover art rights issues, sure) that produced books as solid as anything done by the pros "in about an hour".

    But I'm amazed that no one is constructively talking about POD in these "future of books" discussions, even at the risk on the store side of the big chains folding. (ProTip - why would I even order from amazon if I could get my copy in my hand at lunch?)

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  10. Re:the Internet is a better source? by ranton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The big elephant in the room I still don't see really taken seriously is ... Print On Demand.

    Once you have standardized page size and other challenges inherent with POD, you might as well just be downloading an e-book. Cost may be an issue for e-readers today, but you already can get some pretty damn cheap e-readers if you are willing to buy something other than the big name brands. So if you are talking about the future of books, not just trends over the next 5-10 years, it is most likely going to be incredibly cheap color e-ink tablets that most books are read from.

    No one knows the future for sure, so perhaps POD will have its place, but I find it doubtful.

    I completely disagree that the internet is a "better source". It's a stunning *complementary source*. But books (medium, to be discussed later) are the exclusive domain of a ton of "long form content" with certain types of structure that don't really exist per se in the internet.

    I didn't mean to say that the internet is a better source for all information. My rationalle for calling it a better source was simply that it is a better source for most of the information people need. I am easily in the top 5% of physical book purchasers for personal consumption in the developed world (probably top 1%), but even I realize that most of the time I need to learn something I do not turn to books (either physical or e-books). They are for highly specialized content and for reference information that has not yet been posted online (which is more and more rare as the years go on). And for novels, if you are into that kind of thing, but those transition to e-books even better than the non-fiction books I read.

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  11. Falls short in one critical public library job: by hey! · · Score: 2

    Preservation of information for future generations, and conversely providing information generated past generations to the present.

    I can walk into my nice, but hardly cutting edge public library and look up my hometown paper's front page for December 8, 1941 and read about the reaction to the Pearl Harbor attack. I can look for science fiction books published in the 1950s by publishers that have gone out of business. I can find strange, but interesting books that have never been digitized and are very hard to find, like a military history of the bicycle written in the 1960s.

    If I go to a *world class* library, like the main branch of the Boston Public Library, I can examine rare manucripts, maps and sheet music, although they have been making an effort to digitize that stuff. If I needed a service manual for a fifty year-old TV set, this is the first place I'd look.

    I can understand going primarily ebook for a community that can't afford a real library, but even such a library needs stacks where it preserves books of local interest for future generations. Given that they've given up physical books and all the associated expenses, 10,000 books seems like an awfully thin collection to me.

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  12. Good Idea on Paper, Horrid Execution by rueger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Like most libraries, our local has embraced all manner of e-technology. Although the vast majority of users still prefer 'real books," they also offer e-books, e-reader loans, music downloads, and audiobook downloads, as well as access to a large group of databases.

    As an end user I'd call most of this a disaster. Books are simple - you sign it out, take it home, and renew it until you're done reading it. If someone else needs the book they can place a hold, and you can't renew it any more. If you need a book not on the shelf you can place a hold.

    I had been using them for audiobooks to listen to in the car on my Android phone. This worked great except that pretty much the only company servicing Canadian libraries is Overdrive, and their software is bar none the worst that I've encountered.

    Still, it was just usable enough that despite the really poor selection of audiobooks, the limited number of "copies available", the lack of any way to renew books, and the really, really, really horrid interface on either PC or phone, I could live with it.

    This year Overdrive updated their software, with a new added "feature": you could no longer limit downloads to WIFI. Or even pause a download in progress. As a consequence one ill-timed audiobook download consumed my entire month's cel phone data cap in less than a day.

    I deleted it, and let my library know that I was using Pirate Bay from here on - faster, easier, better selection, and no chance of getting hammered with data overage charges.

    Beyond that it's pretty well known that publishers define an e-book as only being downloadable for a few dozen times - alleging that this replicates the physical life of an actual book. It's an obvious lie, and ignores the longstanding practices of rebinding and repairing books - something that libraries have done for many decades.

    Our library has a pretty remarkable section of CDs on loan, and actually has surprised me many times with the stuff that they have on the shelves. The downloadable music offering Freegal lets you grab a grand total of THREE songs per month. DRM free, but kind of useless.

    At the end of the day I wish that our library would go back to lending physical artifacts - the restraints on them by the publishers makes any attempt to provide e-content pretty much impossible.

  13. A legit question by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Is there a way to determine that the ebook has not been altered?

    I can think of several places where groups of people would like to control the information, and many who would do it if they could

    Many on the Religious right would like to either scrub or reword evolutionary and or biological references. Physics and astronomy texts are a little suspect also.

    Many on the industrial right would want to alter, remove references research in Greenhouse gas

    Many on the left might like to remove non-PC texts

    No doubt many groups would find objectionable stuff they would like to change. Any of these groups might like to alter or remove text, and if public bookburning events are any indication, it's pretty pointless to argue that they wouldn't.

    Some sort of trusted authority with a massive hashtag listing?

    Although I would really enjoy the rewritten stories about Jesus and the founding fathers raising the flag on Iwo Jima, and working tirelessly to end slavery.

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  14. Choice of Product by Sigvulcanas · · Score: 2

    They spent $2.3 million on a public library, and they fill it with Apple? This is absurd, everyone and their brother will be using them and they'll be locked down anyways. They can buy equivelent Windows machines for half the cost and they'll work just as well if not better. For eBook readers why not Kindle? A Kindle costs $199 which is half as much as the cheapest Apple tablets. Besides this would have given Amazon a chance to step up and become a champion on education. It really is a waste of tax payer money to purchase Apple products for continuous public use.

  15. Re:the Internet is a better source? by deconfliction · · Score: 2

    Once you have standardized page size and other challenges inherent with POD, you might as well just be downloading an e-book.

    I know I am in a very small 'paranoid' minority on this one but- POD gets you the ability to read the book, without having a psychological profile of you developed based on the relative times spent on each page. A profile that can and will be sold to advertisers (if only to fund the library building and license costs) . A profile that can and will be stored forever by the NSA so that should they ever find a reason to 'target' that 'collected data' it is there, and able to either help them understand and/or misportray your personality.

  16. Children's books and other large format books by hrvatska · · Score: 2

    If the only users of libraries were people who only read text, I would be OK with an all e-reader library. However, I've noticed that my local library's children section is well used, and a lot of those users are early readers and parents of early readers who take out books where the illustrations matter as much as the words. And many of those books are large format that don't do well in a smaller format. It seems like a library going to an all e-reader format is abandoning an awful lot of the books for early readers.