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Firewall Company Palo Alto Buys Stealthy Startup Formed By Ex-NSAers

alphadogg writes "Next-generation firewall maker Palo Alto Networks today announced its first acquisition, an intriguing buyout of a stealthy Mountain View start-up called Morta Security whose founders hail from the NSA. The price of the purchase was not disclosed. Morta that has been in stealth mode since 2012 and describes its founders as 'executives and engineers from the National Security Agency.' CEO Raj Shahsays he worked in the Air Force Reserve supporting the NSA. 'We have deep experience in protecting our national infrastructure,' he says. (Curious to see if more startups will start marketing their NSA heritage...)"

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  1. I don't think so. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmmm, maybe I'll *not* buy their firewall...

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    1. Re:I don't think so. by Hunter-Killer · · Score: 2

      Sonicwall offers a Network Security Appliance firewall. I can hear their marketing department: "NSA? That spells security!" Good luck with that today.

    2. Re:I don't think so. by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      maybe I'll convince people I DON'T LIKE to buy their firewalls....

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    3. Re:I don't think so. by Obijon70 · · Score: 2

      Now, now, Im sure the products they offer will be 100% safe and backdoor proof. Boy that was hard to type with out it getting stuck in my throat...

    4. Re:I don't think so. by sconeu · · Score: 2

      That's what he said. He's just Chekov.

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  2. Firewalls with integrated... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    remote access for the NSA

  3. From the NSA? or just kinda near them...ish? by exomondo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    > whose founders hail from the NSA

    > CEO Raj Shahsays he worked in the Air Force Reserve supporting the NSA

    They aren't really the same thing now are they?

    1. Re:From the NSA? or just kinda near them...ish? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2

      CEO Raj Shahsays he worked in the Air Force Reserve supporting the NSA

      They aren't really the same thing now are they?

      Either way it's not really a good selling point.

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    2. Re:From the NSA? or just kinda near them...ish? by recharged95 · · Score: 2

      Also, I like the 'wildfire' play on likely the main competition, which is Sourcefire. Which really started stuff like Snort and Ethereal...

    3. Re:From the NSA? or just kinda near them...ish? by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2

      Maybe he knows something we don't and plans to capitalize on it?

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    4. Re:From the NSA? or just kinda near them...ish? by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      Sure, it might say we've moved beyond knee-jerk racism based on names.

      By "we" I mean, Americans.

  4. Buy the cronies to get a right to bid on contracts by dbIII · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When there is corruption you need to employ a former "insider" before your bids on contracts are even looked at.
    Why do you think people like the person that lost the White House emails is employable by a data recovery company?

  5. Waitwhat. by Johann+Lau · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We have deep experience in protecting our national infrastructure

    I beg your pardon? This coming from the fuckwits who insist on just about everything having unfixed holes and/or backdoors? Unless by "deep experience" they are referring to having their heads up their asses, I call BS.

    What do you think would increase security more, in the long run - firewalls by the NSA, or firing squads for the NSA? Sad thing is, what starts out as a polemic rhetorical question is actually not that easy to answer, now is it.

    1. Re:Waitwhat. by ArchieBunker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'd call that deep experience. Most people suspected them of having some hidden backdoors or listening powers but no one had proof. I'd call their campaign pretty successful until Edward Snowden blew the doors open.

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    2. Re:Waitwhat. by ZouPrime · · Score: 2

      The NSA does both. Beyond their SIGINT operations, they also support industries in various security initiatives.

  6. Any network startup by Swampash · · Score: 2

    That has any past connection, through staff or projects, with the NSA is now about as popular as cancer.

  7. well-named company. that Morta Security by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Morta" in Italian means, "dead man".

    Draw your own conclusions.

    Forget Left and Right, Liberal or Conservative, Republican or Democrat. We are all enemies of the State now. It's starting to look like those divisions have just been artificially put in place in order to make us easier to control. When we're fighting each other, we're not paying attention to the real bad guys. And the bad guys goal is to take everything. If you're not part of the financial/political elite, you're not in the car, you're standing on the side of the road.

    Nothing can really get better - not one thing - unless we deal with this security apparatus in a lasting way. It makes us less secure, poorer and sliding down the economic scale. And today, Janet Yellin was installed as the new bursar for this apparatus, in charge of siphoning wealth to the very few.

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    1. Re:well-named company. that Morta Security by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 2

      Actually, morta would be referring to the feminine, dead man is uomo morto.

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  8. ITT by Luke+has+no+name · · Score: 2

    People who don't actually work in cybersecurity.

  9. Supported the NSA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Good evening Mr. Sir, I am being your Microsofts supporting person. My name is being Raj Shah and I am being afraid I must inform you that your Windows is being having a virus..."

  10. bad analogy by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

    you can build rockets for hitler, or you can build rockets for truman. they're both still rockets. you can test the rocket, make sure it works, you can separate the creator of the tech from the tech

    but security is not like that. it's an ongoing trust relationship. you have to trust the people involved

    and if your previous job was secretly sabotaging all security to a govt, this is probably not someone you want to trust your company's security to. when the NSA breaches your system, they have an ally already inside your system. if you didn't have a problem working for the NSA before, you probably still don't have any problems with their behavior, the defilement of our foundational rights

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  11. Re:i can smell Rajs bullshit from here by McGruber · · Score: 2

    An Air force pilot? really ? no history ? nothing anywhere on the web including the seclists /waves hand....charlatans everywhere

    AC's allegation about Raj Shah being a charlatan really intrigued me, so I just wasted two hours doing a little digging... and I now suspect Raj Shah is lying about having been a USAF F-16 pilot. Here are a few different versions of Raj Shah's CV:

    Khabar: Georgian Raj Shah Wins Soros Fellowship for New Americans (April 2007)

    Raj Shah is among 31 finalists in the 10th annual competition for the Paul & Diasy Soros Fellowships for New Americans (immigrants and children of immigrants). They were selected from over 800 applicants representing 141 nationalities and 360 colleges and universities. Shah is currently the Special Assistant to the Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for International Technology Security in the US Department of Defense. He plans to attend Wharton in the fall to study business. Shah holds an AB from the Woodrow Wilson School at Princeton University. Upon graduating from Princeton, he took a job at McKinsey and Company but left 4 months after 9/11 to join the United States Air Force. Shah flew eighteen combat missions in Iraq as a captain and F-16 pilot. After four years of active duty, he transitioned to the reserves and rejoined McKinsey & Co.; from there he embarked on his present work.

    Times of India: Business honcho bombed Iraq for US Air Force

    He flew US Air force F-16 over Iraqi air space in 2006 and as recently as in March to May in 2010 for nearly 200 hours in 38 combat missions at a speed of Mac 2 (twice the speed of sound). Thirty-three-year-old Gujarati American Raj Shah, then a combat pilot, said, "The biggest fear in a pilot's mind is the fear of making a mistake. If we err, innocent people die." This Wharton School MBA, now vice-president of a defence focused investment firm, is a battle hardened soldier turned business executive.

    "From 500 feet above the sea level to 50,000 feet, I flew as per the requirement. The altitude depended on the targets and in Iraq we flew very low for precision target hitting," said Raj, who joined the US Air Force in 2000 and took his first flight school in December, 2001.

    He flew every third day on missions in Iraq and volunteered himself at Airport Theatre Hospital at Bagdad to help out the medical teams.

    "In January 2006, it was 3 am in Bagdad when the US Air Force base sirens went off. I was sleeping in my flight suit. I ran to the jet and and in five minutes was flying 500 feet over Bagdad where a number of people were trying to block the path of US-Iraqi troops, who were on rescue mission," he said.

    Those quotes about his missions are really strange.... and the the timeline in the 1st article (joined USAF 4 months after 9/1) contradicts the timeline in the 2nd (joined USAF in 2000). Also, in the first article (from 2007), he is described as having flow 18 combat missions, but in the next piece, posted four years later, he claims he flew 38 combat missions:

    NetIP: Vote for Raj Shah (August 2011)

    A reserve F-16 Pilot in the US Air Force, Raj is also is the Vice President of Federal Systems, a defense-focused investment firm. Now in its 6th year, Nanubhai impacts 8,000 students in rural India and has sent over 25 American teachers to India. In the USAF, Raj served two tours of duty in Iraq flying 38 combat missions. Raj has also worked as a Special Assistant in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Previously Raj worked at McKinsey & Co. serving both private and public s