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Canada Quietly Offering Sanctuary To Data From the US

davecb writes "The Toronto Star's lead article today is Canada courting U.S. web giants in wake of NSA spy scandal, an effort to convince them their customer data is safer here. This follows related moves like Cisco moving R&D to Toronto. Industry Canada will neither confirm nor deny that European and U.S. companies are negotiating to move confidential data away from the U.S. This critically depends on recent blocking legislation to get around cases like U.S. v. Bank of Nova Scotia, where U.S. courts 'extradited' Canadian bank records to the U.S. Contrary to Canadian law, you understand ..."

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  1. Implying Canada isn't an accomplice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They've been doing intelligence cooperation with the US for ages, why would they be any more trustworthy?

  2. Meaningless by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is completely meaningless as long as any data has to traverse any network in the US. For that matter, I highly doubt that Canada or any other US ally won't actually cooperate with the NSA. This is nothing but a marketing move on Canada's part.

  3. Canada is already America's bitch. by robot_love · · Score: 5, Informative

    Our banks will release all personal information to US law enforcement, even though this directly contravenes our Constitution.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-banks-to-be-compelled-to-share-clients-info-with-u-s-1.2437975

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    1. Re:Canada is already America's bitch. by MrKevvy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Canada also assisted the NSA in spying including spying on attendees at the G20 summit in Toronto in 2010.

      As this is common knowledge, I'm skeptical that any entity would trust Canada more than the U.S. with its confidential data. I certainly wouldn't.

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  4. Re:You Know They'll Roll Over! by Vanderhoth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, I'm Canadian. Canada has a pretty good "sharing" relationship with the US. It's a safe bet that if data is stored here we're pretty much just going to hand it to any US government org. that asks for it. I'd be willing to bet this is a scheme cooked up by the NSA because they know Canada will just roll over and hand the info back to them so they can just continue on business as usual. We're not really the confrontational types up here.

  5. Welcome to your data by alexhs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    American citizens, come and host your data on canadian soil !
    Therefore, it will technically be foreign data.
    Therefore, the NSA will be able to spy on it without trespassing any law regulating spying on its own citizens.
    Thanks for your cooperation.

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  6. Re:You Know They'll Roll Over! by MouseR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it would be worse for US to store their data in Canada because at that point, NSA is just spying on another country rather than in their own turf. Something that is in high scrutiny at the moment.

  7. Re:You Know They'll Roll Over! by BobMcD · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's actually worse than just them rolling over.

    See, Canadian operations are firmly within the jurisdiction of the NSA. So moving out of country makes you more hackable, not less.

  8. Re:You Know They'll Roll Over! by mrclisdue · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know the Canadians will roll over on you, eh?

    Please, sir (I say "sir", and I apologise if you are a "ma'am", ma'am), but on behalf of all Canadians, I urge you to consider that it is "politeness, pleasantries, civility, and common courtesy" that you misinterpret as "rolling over".

    We simply rush to the front and open the door for you, sir/ma'am.

    I hope I haven't offended you in any way, and I apologise for taking your time.

    Thank you, and all the best, Godspeed.