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Mars One Studying How To Maintain Communications With Mars 24/7

braindrainbahrain writes "Mars One, the low-credibility effort to colonize Mars, is at least funding some interesting concept studies for their alleged plan to colonize the red planet. One of the most interesting is the effort to maintain uninterrupted communications with Mars. This is not as trivial as it may sound, as any satellite in Martian orbit will still have to deal with occultations between Mars and Earth due to the Sun. Surrey Satellite Technology will be performing the study."

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  1. Identical twins by myowntrueself · · Score: 3, Funny

    Send one twin to mars, the other twin stays on Earth. They telepathically communicate. Oh wait, wrong novel?

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  2. Re: classy by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Space mission faster and more ambitious than NASA financed by reality TV and application fees?

    They did manage to get the Moon landing done is fairly short order - in the 1960s - (obviously not as ambitious as going to / living on Mars) but, sadly, present-day NASA is crippled by the fear of people actually dying, LOTS of bureaucracy, politics (internal and external) and Congress. If the Government (meaning "we the People") *really* wanted to be on Mars, we'd be there.

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  3. Every 780 days by mbone · · Score: 4, Informative

    Once per synodic period (779.94 days) you will lose 10 days or so during superior conjunction, or ~ 1.3% of the time. NASA gives its spaceships at Mars a vacation (for the rovers, generally a long integration X ray spectrum of some rock). If Mars One really worries losing contact even for that little, they can either build a cycler, or put a relay somewhere else (say, orbiting Venus).

  4. What't the point of this? by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Funny

    So if we do manage to send the ship with all of the bureaucrats and hair stylists and telephone sanitizers to Mars, what is the point of trying to maintain communications 24/7? After all, pretty much anything that you do without science fiction technology is going to have a round trip delay of up to 1/2 hour or so at some times. The "colony" has to be pretty damn independent. I don't see any real need to convince yourself that you have 24/7 communications with delays like they would experience. Even daily communication would need some sort of relay when the sun gets in the way, but trying for 24/7 is overkill and pointless.

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  5. Re:Just need some relays by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Informative

    Put some satellites in orbit around the sun. Enough of them and you'll always be able to see at least one of them from either planet, and they can relay between each other.

    "enough" being one (or more). One satellite in Earth's L4 or L5 Lagrange points, and you have sight around the sun. If you don't use that natural gravity saddle, you might want to use a gravity hole, such as Jupiter to put another, though to stop Jupiter from getting in the way, you'd still need to use a Lagrange point, I'd recommend L1.

    This doesn't seem like a hard problem. You can even launch three, Earth L4 &L5, and Jupiter L1 to have redundant and diverse coverage. Though no idea if they were looking for something in a more stable orbit, as Lagrange points take corrections to remain in. Or if those sorts of details were the point of the study.

  6. Re:Quantum Telegraph by liquidrocket · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why would you want to use quantum entanglement for communication with Mars? If you are after faster-than-light communication, quantum entanglement is not going to help you. (and it is extremely unlikely anything else would either)

  7. Re:idiocranial projection by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The only difference is Kennedy could commit ~1% of the GDP of the most powerful nation (at the time) for ten years. Mars One has Kickstarter.

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  8. Re:Here's another project that needs funding by symbolset · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah. Instead we should build a new factory in China where children can assemble happy meal toys for other children half the world away to play with for five minutes and throw away. That at least has a legitimate business purpose of getting children addicted to greasy food and low fructose corn syrup. Mars! Some people!

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  9. Re:Quantum Telegraph by isorox · · Score: 3, Funny

    You mean utilize quantum entanglement? Maybe by the time someone is actually ready to go to Mars, they'll have developed the idea far enough to actually do it. Until then: Lasers.

    Yes, a laser so powerful it will punch a hole through the sun.