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Oracle Seeking Community Feedback on Java 8 EE Plans

Posted by Unknown on from the will-no-one-think-about-cyberdog dept.

An anonymous reader writes with this quick bite from Info Q: "Oracle is seeking feedback from the Java community about what it should work on for the next version of Java EE, the popular and widely used enterprise framework. As well as standardizing APIs for PaaS and SaaS the vendor is looking at removing some legacy baggage including EJB 2.x remote and local client view (EJBObject, EJBLocalObject, EJBHome, and EJBLocalHome interfaces) and CORBA."

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  1. Oracle is why I don't use java by i+kan+reed · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I learned java as my first "enterprise" language in school. Oracle is 100% enough motivation to never touch it again.

    1. Re:Oracle is why I don't use java by John+Allsup · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, but in my early programming days, trying to program Windows nearly put me off programming entirely.

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      John_Chalisque
  2. Funny ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oracle doesn't usually give a damn about what people want.

    If so, they'd already know we don't want that stupid Ask.com toolbar and they should stop trying to sneak it in.

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    Lost at C:>. Found at C.
  3. Open Source it by ArhcAngel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everyone is thinking it but everyone knows Larry doesn't give anything away for free. Even his free software costs you money somewhere...

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    "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
  4. Two Tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't make it full of security bugs.

    Don't include crapware in the installer for the package and EVERY subsequent update.

    Speaking of updates... Don't make it so fucking hard to customize the installation! Having to create transforms with Orca which break installations preventing future updates is a bunch of shit.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't try to be Adobe.

  5. Re:Object database by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is value in the JPA abstraction layer. Most large enterprises have multiple databases of various generations and need software that can talk to all of them. In that sense JPA is a blessing.

  6. Re:Open source what exactly? by ArhcAngel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hand it over to IEEE or another organization to steer its development. Oracle doesn't exactly want what's best for Java.

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    "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
  7. Re:Security by broken_chaos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They should just ditch the browser plugin by default. Support it as 'legacy' for a version or two, but don't ship or install by default (hell, they could even only offer it to corporate customers for all I care). It's the biggest problem with Java -- otherwise you pretty well get what you expect if you download and run unknown code, no worse than any other language. It's not like C's ability to completely tear your operating system apart if you run code you don't know is a bug, after all.