Slashdot Mirror


Court Victory Gives Blogger Same Speech Protections As Traditional Press

cold fjord writes "Reuters reports, 'A blogger is entitled to the same free speech protections as a traditional journalist and cannot be liable for defamation unless she acted negligently, a federal appeals court ruled on Friday. Crystal Cox lost a defamation trial in 2011 over a blog post she wrote accusing a bankruptcy trustee and Obsidian Finance Group of tax fraud. A lower court judge had found that Obsidian did not have to prove that Cox acted negligently because Cox failed to submit evidence of her status as a journalist. But in the ruling, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco said Cox deserved a new trial, regardless of the fact that she is not a traditional reporter. "As the Supreme Court has accurately warned, a First Amendment distinction between the institutional press and other speakers is unworkable."... Eugene Volokh, [a] Law professor who represented Cox, said Obsidian would now have to show that Cox had actual knowledge that her post was false when she published it. ... "In this day and age, with so much important stuff produced by people who are not professionals, it's harder than ever to decide who is a member of the institutional press."' Further details are available at Courthouse News Service."

18 of 137 comments (clear)

  1. Somewhere Sen. Feinstein throws her laptop. by Noishkel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Better luck pissing on inalienable rights next time. Why not try banning the second amendment again. That'll make you feel better.

    1. Re:Somewhere Sen. Feinstein throws her laptop. by Noishkel · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I like your wording better than the headline. She did indeed have that right all the time and the court forced the rest of the government to recognize that fact.

      Well I made that quip because Feinstein purposed an amendment a while back that would strip certain journalistic protections under the first amendment UNLESS you worked for an established news organization. Which would give the federal government an avenue to attack anyone they didn't like the message of.

  2. Re:yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How can anyone be entitled more free speech than others??? everyone is entitled the same free speech, journalist, blogger or bum.

  3. Re:Anyone could be a blogger... by ClioCJS · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fuck you! People should only get full rights if they have the threat of losing their job weighed against them? Go back to your fucking cave.

    --
    -Clio
    Karma: Bad (mostly from not giving a fuck)
    Blog: http://clintjcl.wordpress.com
  4. Re:Anyone could be a blogger... by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Constitution makes no distinction between a "traditional journalist" and anybody else. When the Constitution refers to "freedom of the press", it is not talking about news media, or journalists. It is literally talking about printing presses. Just because journalists have told us that it applies to them and only to them does not mean that was what the Framers were referring to.

    --
    The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
  5. Re:Anyone could be a blogger... by compro01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    code of conduct/ethics...traditional journalist

    Have you been sleeping for a few decades?

    --
    upon the advice of my lawyer, i have no sig at this time
  6. Re:yes! by MrBigInThePants · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I totally agree with you.

    I would argue the distinction has ALWAYS been unworkable its just that the internet has made it more obvious.

    Although I am sure corporate media organisations will disagree...but fuck them.

    And if this gets overturned or is not the case in other countries I would suggest that bloggers form a collective media organisation - Independent Media United. :)

    As a side bonus they could use it as a blogging community, buy hosting in bulk or whatever....

  7. Put AdSense on your blog by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A professional is one who gets paid for his work. Put AdSense on your blog and you're a professional.

  8. Re:yes! by cold+fjord · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A great victory for the blogosphere

    Very much so. And I will also point out that Eugene Volokh is quite an interesting fellow with a great blog. Lots of interesting commentary there. Legal Insurrection is another great legal blog.

    Volokh worked for 12 years as a computer programmer. He graduated from UCLA with a B.S. in math-computer science at age 15, and has written many articles on computer software. Volokh was born in the USSR; his family emigrated to the U.S. when he was seven years old.

    Because child prodigy is no longer in Soviet Russia, free speech comes to you!

    --
    much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
  9. You really are clueless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Pie in the sky is the most expensive kind. Journalists don't follow a code of ethics or conduct, and even if they did there is no reason that they should somehow be granted greater First Amendment protection than the common man. Nothing you said is relevant because the Constitution requires equal protection under the law for everyone. Singling out journalists as having the right to protect their sources is equal to differentiating "everyone else" as not having that right. Freedom of speech includes freedom FROM speaking, and the Fifth Amendment reinforces that in any potentially self-incriminating interaction (which, in case you don't realize, is every interaction that exists due to overcriminalization in the United States.)

  10. Easy Distinction to Make by Bob9113 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "In this day and age, with so much important stuff produced by people who are not professionals, it's harder than ever to decide who is a member of the institutional press."

    It's easy to distinguish those who are members of the institutional press; they never ask challenging questions of the wealthy and powerful, reliably support one of the overly simplistic two-party positions on all wedge issues, and don't publish stories like the Snowden trove until the non-traditional press has left them no other choice. These are the very reasons that the non-traditional press needs as much or more protection than the mundane, risk-averse mainstream media.

    1. Re:Easy Distinction to Make by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 3, Interesting

      These are the very reasons that the non-traditional press needs as much or more protection than the mundane, risk-averse mainstream media.

      I absolutely agree with you. However, I'm not sure that this particular blogger is the best representative of the "non-traditional press." From TFA:

      Cox's blogging activities have attracted their share of controversy. According to the court's opinion, Cox has a history of making allegations of fraud and other illegal activities "and seeking payoffs in exchange for retraction."

      Further, if you start doing any basic internet searches, you'll find all sorts of sordid claims about this blogger. If stuff on this link is true, for example -- this blogger is the kind of person who registers the domain names of not only enemies, but the children of her enemies, and then posts horrible stuff about them (apparently sometimes made up), and then sends letters asking for money if they want it taken down.

      I have no idea if all of this is true, but it's clear from a number of stories -- both on blogs and in the "institutional press" that you accuse of not asking the hard questions, like the NY Times -- that the blogger at the center of this case is not just a "non-traditional press" representative or journalist. This appears to be someone who deliberately posts offensive material about people in order to extort money.

      So, is this really a victory for the "non-traditional press," or an invitation for a new kind of "shake-down" scheme where the mob comes after your business and acts for "protection" money? (I haven't been following this story, so I don't know the answer to this, but this is the kind of stuff I've found with a few quick searches, so it appears more complex than a simple "freedom of the press" victory.)

  11. Re:Anyone could be a blogger... by compro01 · · Score: 3, Funny

    the same code of conduct/ethics as a traditional journalist.

    You mean none?

    --
    upon the advice of my lawyer, i have no sig at this time
  12. Re:Anyone could be a blogger... by Dan541 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But you see, a blogger doesn't have a 'job' to lose(meaning, blogging is not their occupation), so what do they care if they write false accusations?

    I pride myself on the quality of my blog, and have the sources documentation and research to back up everything I write about. I also provide contact details so that I can retract any inaccuracies if they do appear, which fortunately has only ever happened once. I also have no editors to sabotage the final print before publishing meaning the end product is always what I intended. The same cannot be said for journalists.

    --
    An SQL query goes to a bar, walks up to a table and asks, "Mind if I join you?"
  13. Re:yes! by MrBigInThePants · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You are being very naive.

    Who defines "bad" and "good"?

    And why is i that a for profit corporate such as Fox News (to pick the most disgusting mainstream example I can think of) is given special privilege given their well documented bias and motivations....

    As I said...naive....

  14. Re:yes! by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would argue the distinction has ALWAYS been unworkable its just that the internet has made it more obvious.

    That's exactly it. The Supreme Court said

    âoeWith the advent of the Internet and the decline of print and broadcast media ⦠the line between the media and others who wish to comment on political and social issues becomes far more blurred.â

    Guess where they said it? Citizens United, 558 U.S. at 352. Yes that Citizens United. How that decision became popularized as "corporations are evil because the system is corrupt" I can't figure. Protection of First Amendment freedoms is good, full stop.

    --
    Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
  15. Re:yes! by penix1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes that Citizens United. How that decision became popularized as "corporations are evil because the system is corrupt" I can't figure. Protection of First Amendment freedoms is good, full stop.

    What makes it evil is it equated money with speech as well as said corporations are entitled to the same rights as people in a much stronger stance than any other decision. By allowing anonymous donations to political campaigns, there is no saying where the money actually came from be it local or from a foreign nation seeking to upset our political arena.

    --
    This is a sig. This is only a sig. Had this been an actual sig you would have been informed where to tune for more sigs.
  16. Couldn't have happened to a more horrible person.. by sirwired · · Score: 5, Informative

    This victory is important, and handily demonstrates the impartiality of the circuit court judges involved, and Eugene Volkoh's intestinal fortitude. Why? Chrystal Cox is, to be frank, a horrible person. A nutjob. A known extortionist. The trial that will now take place will be a waste of everyone's time and money (she's going to lose), and it's unlikely the plaintiff's will be able to recover they now-extensive legal costs and the damages they are almost certainly due.

    Example: She decided to go on a vendetta against Marc Rendazza (who, ironically, is a well-known civil-liberties attorney)... First, she asked Marc Rendazza to pay for her "reputation management services." When he hold her to take a hike, she got revenge by posting all sorts of utterly made-up horrible things about his 3-year-old daughter.

    Make no mistake, when this does go to trial, she's going to lose, and she's going to lose hard. All she won here was an acknowledgement that despite being a horrible person, and despite the fact she's being sued for doing the exact same sort of thing she's done in the past, the defamation has to be proven in a court instead being assumed because she isn't a professional.

    Now that the 1st-amendment issues have been settled, will Volkoh now drop her like a hot potato?

    On one hand, I can see what the court is getting at here, but in terms of practical effect, it could be ugly. As if we needed more reasons to not trust anything we read on the internet.