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Romanian Bitcoin Entrepreneur Steps In To Pay OpenBSD Shortfall

New submitter MrBingoBoingo writes "Recently it was announced here on Slashdot that OpenBSD was facing an impending shortfall that jeopardized its continued existence. A sponsorship to save OpenBSD has been announced, and it wasn't one of the usual culprits that saved OpenBSD, but a Romanian Bitcoin billionaire."

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  1. If he's a real billionaire... by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 2

    .... he's not going to want the attention, lest he get kidnapped.

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    1. Re:If he's a real billionaire... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      Have you seen the history of leu? It probably explains why he got into Bitcoin - he wanted to convert his savings into a more stable currency. ;-)

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  2. Re:Perhaps... by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's still better than someone who gave nothing but cheap hot air.

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  3. Hmmmm by cold+fjord · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Interesting....

    I hope it works out for OpenBSD, but the proof is in the pudding.... or the check clearing.

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    1. Re:Hmmmm by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 2

      I have, but my theory was mashed Twinkies tasted better in butterscotch pudding. After my experimentation resulting in a tasty combo - my proof WAS in the pudding. Science never tasted so good...

  4. Re:Perhaps... by MrBingoBoingo · · Score: 2

    In Canada that actually should be rather easy.

  5. Mircea Popescu is a criminal... nothing more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He sells futures, which he refuses to honor if he loses.

    He steals from people.

    OpenBSD should refuse his donation, the funds are the proceeds of crime.

    1. Re:Mircea Popescu is a criminal... nothing more by Immerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Assume everything you say is true, it seems to me there are two outcomes possible:
      (1) Donation accepted:
      criminal has less money
      OpenBSD safe for another year (or whatever)
      (2) Donation refused:
      criminal has more money to perpetuate further crimes
      OpenBSD remains in danger of shutting down

      In what universe is (2) a better outcome?

      Now if Popescu is attempting to buy considerations that might change things, but being a criminal doesn't automatically mean you can't be an honest philanthropist, just look at Bill Gates. (Okay, so maybe not the worlds best possible example of honest philanthropy, but still)

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    2. Re:Mircea Popescu is a criminal... nothing more by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perhaps Obama could chip in some of the bitcoin seized from Silk Road to keep OpenBSD afloat. :)

    3. Re:Mircea Popescu is a criminal... nothing more by r.freeman · · Score: 2

      If that is how "wire fraud" works then you need to change your law. But isn't it like that in biggest police state (the USA), but less so in Canada?

    4. Re:Mircea Popescu is a criminal... nothing more by Luthair · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have no idea who any of these posters are but the PR person's posts certainly have all the hallmarks of a scammer.

  6. Re:Perhaps... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cheap hot air is actually great if you have a gas turbine and a generator and can sell the resulting electricity.

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  7. Re:Perhaps... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How is this modded +2?

    Coinbase.com makes it trivially easy. For people who are willing to put in some legwork, there's localbitcoins.com

    I haven't tried bitpay.com but I understand that it works just as well as coinbase. Stop spreading FUD and educate yourself.

  8. Re: Hey - NSFW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Twitter is NEVER the right link

  9. Re:Perhaps... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From personal experience, I've had no trouble converting ten times that to Euros.

  10. Re:Hey - NSFW by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 2

    It's Monday evening east of the international date line. Slashdot has an international readership...

    Where I'm from, NSFW stands for New South F'ing Wales, Australia. Yet this article is about Romania, not Sydney. :)

  11. Serious Questions about OpenBSD infrastructure by hackus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That sort of an electrical bill is a crap explanation in my opinion to support the development and deployment of OpenBSD developers and users.

    Poor management is more likely the explanation.

    I mean, for example to not watch the cash flow, and all of a sudden require a huge cash intake is something I don't understand.

    This sort of problem should have been apparent YEARS AGO, anyone managing the infrastructure could have seen coming and there should have been PLENTY of time to correct the issue.

    Am I missing something here people if so please do explain.

    -Hack

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    1. Re:Serious Questions about OpenBSD infrastructure by MrBingoBoingo · · Score: 4, Informative

      This electricity bill was explained last Slashdot post. OpenBSD builds for VAX. OpenBSD builds for 68K. I for one am happy someone builds modern software to let the Vaxen run.

    2. Re:Serious Questions about OpenBSD infrastructure by Pinhedd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's purely poor management. From what I understand, the build servers are absolutely archaic beasts that had they been replaced long ago would not have led to such astronomically high bills. It also doesn't help that they seem to be located in Theo de Raadt's basement.

    3. Re:Serious Questions about OpenBSD infrastructure by Narcocide · · Score: 2

      The point is that OpenBSD (along with the myriad softwares packaged with it and available through ports) is useful enough on its own. Not everyone's idea of useless is "doesn't play World of Warcraft."

    4. Re:Serious Questions about OpenBSD infrastructure by iggymanz · · Score: 2

      not poor management at all, the varying architectures with their alignment issues expose bugs, many of them. Did you know projects like Linux have huge alignment bugs that cause major security holes that crop up again and again because they mainly build and test only on x86-32 and x86-64? If you follow the CVE you'd know this.

      The power requirements are not astronomical at all, those of us in the business of caring for racked servers in HVAC controlled areas know this.

          here's a post from Theo about the power:

      "It is not a lot of power; that is a myth.

      The power bill is around $1500/month, to run 2.5 racks of equipment
      with really good air conditioning. Relative to this, 1 full rack in a
      Calgary datacenter is over $1000/month. Considering this is 2.5 racks
      the current operation is VERY COST EFFECTIVE RELATIVE TO THE
      ALTERNATIVES."

      -- quoted from here
        List: openbsd-misc
      Subject: Re: Request for Funding our Electricity
      From: Theo de Raadt
      Date: 2014-01-18 3:38:05
      Message-ID: 201401180338.s0I3c5jF003813 () cvs ! openbsd ! org

  12. Re:Perhaps... by r.freeman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Daily 12.000.000 usd worth of bitcoin is converted on biggest exchange ( http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/btceUSD.html ) Converting 20.000 usd is triviall.

  13. Re:Perhaps... by r.freeman · · Score: 2

    Even local bitcoins would do it: https://localbitcoins.com/buy-bitcoins-online/cad/ Or just set up account with mtgox, btc-e or any of various other exchanges, and get money wired to your bank account, what is the problem?

  14. Re: lol @ Romanian "btc billionaire" by Moridineas · · Score: 5, Informative

    Romanian != Roma.

    Romania is a country whose inhabitants are called, in English, Romanians. The name of the country (and therefore the people) comes from Rome. The Roman Empire. THAT Rome. Romanian--like French, Spanish, and Italian--is a romance language descended directly from Latin. Some even argue that it's the Romance language that today most closely resembles Latin!

    Roma, on the other hand, is a name for a minority population of people that most probably emigrated from South Asia over a thousand years ago. AKA gypsies. The word Roma comes from some Roma dialect and has no connection to Romania or Roman other than as homonyms. Good example of a false congate--they sound alike, but there is no connection.

    Admittedly, the conflation is a common mistake to make, especially since there is a very large (comparatively speaking) Roma population in Romania.

  15. Re:Mircea Popescu is very nice person by MrBingoBoingo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here, here. Where was Tim Cook? Where was Steve Wozniak? WHere was the Oracle douche Ellison? Missing. What was here for the Open Source Movement? An mysterious Bitcoin Billionaire who likes young women nude in public.

  16. Re:Perhaps... by pantaril · · Score: 4, Informative

    This assumes that 20,000$ worth of bitcoins can be converted to real money.

    This assumption is correct.

  17. Re:Perhaps... by pantaril · · Score: 4, Informative

    The point is, there are no BUYERS. It will not happen. No one is going to pay $20k of REAL money for bitcoins.

    I don't know WTF are you talking about but converting bitcoins to 20k USD is non-issue on most existing exchanges like coinbase, bitstamp, mtgox or btc-e. Just go and see their daily trade volume.

  18. Re:Perhaps... by gox · · Score: 3, Informative

    OpenBSD already accepts Bitcoin donations:

    http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html

    Just sent 50 CAD worth, easy peasy. They get converted on the fly to the local currency by BitPay.

    Are you from 2010?

  19. Re:Perhaps... by Keerok · · Score: 2

    Some languages reverse tje use of the period instead and the comma. The French definitely do it. Makes it a bit confusing I suppose, but the the groupings of 3 0s is a good indicator.

  20. keeping developers honest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    From what I understand, the build servers are absolutely archaic beasts that had they been replaced long ago would not have led to such astronomically high bills. /p>

    There are a variety of of build serves. There are ones for SPARC (and SPARC64), MacPPC, SGI/MIPS, VAX, etc.:

    http://openbsd.org/plat.html

    One of the reasons why this is done is help expose bugs. Some issues are only exposed on non-mainstream architectures, and if everyone only uses certain CPUs, then they won't be found (as easily). Back in the early 1990s, not many people used DEC Alpha, but by supporting it (both in the BSD and Linux world), it kept kernel developers "honest" when it came to supporting things besides 32-bit Intel. When AMD64 came along (and then Intel's uptake of it), the code was a lot cleaner and able to better support it with a minimal of fuss (Linus has himself so stated).

    Similarly if you supported RISC-y processors like 68K, MIPS, and SPARC, you would be better prepared for when ARM came along in the mainstream. Similarly support for big- and little-endian CPUs, and CPUs that are bi-endian, keeps kernel folks honest for things like alignment issues.

    This is why I also think that userland developers should developers should try running their software on non-Linux systems in at least a perfunctory fashion. When Debian made the switch from Bash to dash for /bin/sh it broken a lot of things. If developers had tried some simply tests of their software on (say) a BSD, they would have learned quite quickly that they had used Bash-ism and needed to either change their code, or simply explicitly used a shebang of /bin/bash.

    The computer world is not homegenous, and any developer (kernel or userland) who thinks otherwise limits themselves unnecessary and is asking for pain when their assumptions are proven false when reality changes (like the rise of amd64 and ARM, and with Debian's change of /bin/sh).

  21. Re:Before you accept anything from this criminal by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 2

    Before you accept anything from bitcointalk, make sure you punch yourself in the face (and maybe read news ANYWHERE else when you are done). That site is a joke, still, is it always has been.

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