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Canadian Health Scientists Resort To Sneaker Net After Funding Slashed

sandbagger writes "Health Canada scientists are so concerned about losing access to their research library that they're finding workarounds, with one squirreling away journals and books in his basement for colleagues to consult, says a report obtained by CBC News. The report said the number of in-house librarians went from 40 in 2007 to just six in April 2013. 'I look at it as an insidious plan to discourage people from using libraries' said Dr. Rudi Mueller, who left the department in 2012. 'If you want to justify closing a library, you make access difficult and then you say it is hardly used.' This is hardly new for Stephen Harper's Conservative government. Over the Christmas holidays, several scientific libraries were closed and their contents taken to the dump."

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  1. Like the Fisheries libraries by cold+fjord · · Score: 4, Informative

    Once again the data is (allegedly) retained, but moved and is now less convenient to access.

    Before the main library closed, the inter-library loan functions were outsourced to a private company called Infotrieve, the consultant wrote in a report ordered by the department. The library's physical collection was moved to the National Science Library on the Ottawa campus of the National Research Council last year.

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    much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
  2. Re:Not only in the US... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...are we batshit crazy. What the FUCK ever happened to science? We are descending back into the dark ages...

    In the specific context of Canada, certain uppity scientists suggested that there might be unpleasant environmental side-effects to the plan to use tar sands to turn Canada into a dysfunctional petrostate.

    In a not-at-all-dysfunctional-petrostate move, the Harper regime decided to show those uppity scientists where they could shove their 'evidence'. (Probably not a library, anymore)

  3. Don't believe everything you read by GeekBoy · · Score: 1, Informative

    I lived in Ottawa for over 15 years and worked with government employees every day. Anything that comes along and 'the sky is falling' this is just more of the same nonsense.

  4. Re: You get the best government you deserve by Vanderhoth · · Score: 3, Informative

    We have 3 parties the Tories won a majority from just over 37% of the vote. Most of which came from Alberta (North Texas). There's not much the other 63% of us can do, it's how the system works. That being said 2015 is an election year, hopefully the damage Harper's done to the public service by then will be remembered.

  5. They are doing this to all Federal Libraries by thirdpoliceman · · Score: 5, Informative

    I worked for Natural Resources Canada's library system in 2011. My friend worked at Transportation Canada.

    They closed Transportation Canada's library system. It no longer exists. Who knows what happened to the information there, if it even exists any more. My friend told me they housed some of the world's foremost research on transportation science, and were called upon by international colleagues to provide them with information.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/...

    They did a similar thing to the library at the Ministry of Fisheries and Oceans

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politic...

    Environment Canada

    http://o.canada.com/news/last-...

    This government has a war on science and knowledge and actively prohibits scientists from speaking to the media without government approval.

    http://scienceblogs.com/confes...

    The Conservative government does not care about facts. They have policies they want to implement, and they will do WHATEVER it takes to ensure those policies are enacted. Even if it means destroying our scientific heritage.

  6. Re: The real dark ages - physical matter for ideas by Vanderhoth · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually 5 years ago personal HDs were made against the rule. They were collected then outright band from the network. Employees were mandated to use server storage, but in the last two years, with the creation of Shared Services Canada, there's been confusion about who's supposed to provide that service. A budy of mine who works for DFO is always complaining about fights with IM&TS and SSC. Both suppose to provide a service neither one doing it. Data is the casualty.

  7. Re:The real dark ages - physical matter for ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well apparently "science" decided to hide data behind paper walls, making it accessible to a small elite.

    What complete and utter crap.

    The scientists who monitored these things kept libraries, containing their research journals, results, and papers and the supporting documentation.

    And you, like a fucking moron, jump to the conclusion that "a small elite" have been secretly hoarding all of this information.

    You're a fucking idiot. Some of this stuff is decades old, and predates when you could digitize it.

    The government has claimed they're going to digitize it, but the evidence so far indicates they've barely tried to do that, and are moving straight onto destroying records.

    The people complaining are the people who were trying to preserve the data and keep it accessible.

    The secretive douchebags here are the politicians who don't like it when facts get in the way of policy -- because this government makes policy on what they want to be true, and seldom give a damn about what is actually true.

    Oddly, we see the exact same pattern in the US with your neocons, who like to believe when they say reality is X, the rest of the world jumps and says "yes sir, reality is now X".

    This is a political game, and if you can remove the stuff that proves your government is either lying or failing to make decisions based on actual evidence -- then you can pretend you have all of the answers.

    Sorry, but your screed is directed at the wrong group here, and you are full of shit. The scientists wanted this stuff digitized, and had been told that it would be digitized -- they aren't the ones trying to keep the information secret and only available to them.

    Your entire post tells us you are a moron, who believes scientists are secretly conspiring to make sure they have all the information and the rest of us have none.

    Go crawl back under your rock.

  8. Re:Not only in the US... by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 5, Informative

    That also covers the US under the Bush administration.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...

    A quote from Ron Suskind, 2004 (the aide he is referring to was later identified as Karl Rove):

    The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality--judiciously, as you will--we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

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    http://www.rootstrikers.org/