Wayland 1.4 Released — Touch, Sub-Surface Protocol, Crop/Scale Support

An anonymous reader writes "Version 1.4 of the Wayland protocol and Weston reference compositor have been released. The Wayland/Weston 1.4 release delivers on many features and includes promoting the sub-surface protocol to official Wayland, improved touch screen support, a crop/scale protocol within Weston, security improvements, and other fixes."

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OMG NO NETWORK TRANPARENCY!!!1

[Tailhook]

Just to preclude about half of the coming threads.

Re:OMG NO NETWORK TRANPARENCY!!!1

[marcello_dl]

All I want is to ssh -C -X and open remote apps and use them like local ones, seamless cutting and pasting. It is quite handy in a LAN. Remote desktop preserving state is useful for monitoring, this is useful for office work. Different scenarios.

So, the race now is between new faster compositors who need X protocols layered for compatibility and features and javascript obfuscated apps replacing networked native applications...

Re:X forwarding-like feature?

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes. It's on the road map.

Re:Wayland!

[gazbo]

Ah now to be fair, pulseaudio wasn't all bad. In its early mainstream (Fedora 12?) days, when I had audio problems, I knew that I could always type `killall pulseaudio` and reliably solve them.

So...there's that.

Re:So... what is it?

[coolsnowmen]

Some guys who worked on Xorg/X11 for years are redesigning it to be better. They got some good ideas but it will be a while before it can actually replace Xorg/X11. Here is something: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Re:So... what is it?

[0123456]

Some guys who worked on Xorg/X11 for years are redesigning it to be better.

Yes.

'Xorg sucks, but this new interface it will be much better. Trust us! We wrote Xorg!'

Re:X's way is the only feasible way.

[thegarbz]

The same way as X did? You mean produce a hell old protocol which was network transparent yet utterly incompatible with SHM requiring every modern distribution to have the compositor render the frame and then send it over the network as a bitmap? Wait what? I just described VNC.

Actually no I didn't. VNC uses compression, X doesn't. Hence remote X running on any system produced in the past 20 years actually holds the crown as the only system SLOWER than VNC over the network. It's only saving grace is that you can send individual apps and don't need to export the entire desktop. Then there's the underlying problem of a protocol which forces a shitload of talking to the local server before even being capable of sending a bitmap to the remote one.

As one X developer described it, it is not possible to do remote desktop any worse than X.

Re:VNC "works fine"? What the fuck?

[jedidiah]

> Wayland probably won't be able to perfectly replicate your perfect 1992 X experience, because nobody (who isn't the kind of fucking retard who runs shit remotely just to make themselves feel like one computer isn't enough power for them) gives a shit about doing that kind of thing any more.

What hole have you been hiding in?

Remote desktops are all the rage now. They are very common in corporations and even "regular people" are using them.

The rest of the world has caught up to the 1992 X experience. Now clueless nitwits want to set us back 30 years because they think it's trendy or some such.