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The Changing Face of Robotics

An anonymous reader writes "Using sensors to interface socially, the next generation of robots may not fit the classic idea of what a robot should be. Glen Martin writes: 'Equipped with two articulated arms, it can perform a multitude of tasks. It requires no application code to start up, and no expensive software to function. No specialists are required to program it; workers with minimal technical background can "teach" the robot right on the production line through a graphical user interface and arm manipulation.'"

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  1. Totally off-topic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Cool. I love the idea of virtually zero employment thanks to ubiquitous robots.

    Wonder how that's going to work out...no workers means no one collects a paycheck. Only a few people will own all the resources. So what...the government gives the people a stipend? And we spend it on whatever the robots make? Or do we just cut out the middle man, hand the robots over to the people through government proxies, and make whatever we want?

    Man, I would say in the long run, capitalism doesn't have much of a future.

  2. Re:The hell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's a shit summary of a shit story which is old news to start with. Basically they're just saying that they will deliver you a "generic" robot which has no specifically pre-programmed tasks. Instead of paying someone to write a custom program to (for example) weld a joint, the worker uses a GUI and manual manipulation of the actuators to "teach" the software the task you want it to perform.

    This idiot also makes a bunch of really off-base assumptions about what a robot is "supposed to be", and ignores most of the bulk of science fiction in order to come up with the claim that this is somehow "unusual".

  3. Re:The hell? by khasim · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think it is more of a puff piece written in an attempt to cash-in on a reference to the movie "her".

    An AI program is NOT the same thing as a robot. And an expert system is not the same as an AI program.

  4. "Now robot..." by ilsaloving · · Score: 2

    Now Mr Robot, this is what I want you to do. When the boss comes by, I want you to lift up both arms like this, now extend your middle actuators and shout, "Blow it out your tailpipe!"

    1. Re:"Now robot..." by Cryacin · · Score: 2

      So sue me.

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      Science advances one funeral at a time- Max Planck
  5. time to cut full time down maybe 20-32 hours by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    time to cut full time down maybe 20-32 hours.

    Let's start with 32 hours / 4 days a week with an end to the salary no OT pay or maybe a high mini level of pay to have the no OT pay say 100K+ COL

    Also an high H-1B min wage say 125k+

  6. Re:why the recent interest in robotics? by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Informative

    FTA: It turns out it would've been real handy to have some trained in emergency procedures at the Fukushima Plant.

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    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

    Ernest Hemingway

  7. Re:The hell? by Cryacin · · Score: 2

    Judging by the welders and fitter and turners that I know, after asking one of these blokes to teach the robot that will take their job, I think the "appendage manipulation" that the sounds that they will be producing would make most chiropractors cringe.

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    Science advances one funeral at a time- Max Planck
  8. Re:The hell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You can only cyber with an AI, but you can stick your dick in a robot. And an expert system just asks you how it would feel to stick your dick in your mother.

  9. Same press release as last year by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative

    The 2012 interview was more informative:

    " Indeed. We don't mean "common sense" from a Marvin Minsky-like strong AI perspective. Baxter's "execution" application consists of a series of behavior-based systems. During "training," the robot detects task-relevant features and uses it to build up the behavior based system.
    For example, let's say a user is training the robot for a pick and place task. During the "pick" phase, a user places the gripper above an object and closes the gripper. The force on the gripper is detected by the robot. Our "training" application detects this sequence as "the robot is grasping an object"... so during "execution", Baxter won't proceed unless it actually detects an object in the robots gripper. Thus, if the object fell out, it would stop (or do something else). This is different from how existing industrial robots work -- they'd just merrily continue the pick-and-place without the object.
    Collectively, these "behavior primitives" are assigned and composed, ie. "learned", during "training" by having non-technical users directly manipulate the robot rather than programming it (which is also possible for those inclined). This gives the robot an air of common sense."

    This is useful, but not that intelligent. Take a look at these PR videos to see what it can do. Basically, it can pack and unpack things, and move them from one place to another. It's not good enough to assemble much of anything. Plugging in connectors to assemble a phone? Not with this machine and software.

    1. Re:Same press release as last year by Antonovich · · Score: 2

      I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this. The brains behind Rethink Robotics is Rodney Brooks, a long-time professor and head of MIT's CSAIL. While not as much of a show pony as Kurzweil, he is still quite well known outside academic circles. He was also behind the robotic Roomba vacuum cleaners that are in many people's homes.

      While he is definitely a controversial theorist in AI/Robotics circles, no one denies his ability to get things done. His (and his student's) research has been used in a lot of the advanced robotics we see today (military, space, other). I can't help thinking that the basic tenets of his theories are a little difficult to grasp for most people, including AI/Robotics researchers. There are some branches of philosophy, neuroscience and the human behavioural sciences that have long been arguing the sorts of things he does as the basis of human intelligence, though they have not been particularly popular since the 60s. Competing theories are not really getting us very far though, and the key concepts he pushes are starting to get more traction again.

      Brooks is still searching for "the juice", as he puts it, the last piece he believes is necessary before we can create truly generative intelligence. He may not live to see it (though he's not even 60 yet I think) but I believe his ideas will form the basis of AGI in the not-too-distant future. Probably around the time I turn 70 ;).

    2. Re:Same press release as last year by BadDreamer · · Score: 2

      It is clear the interviewed person has never programmed existing industrial robots.

      Thus, if the object fell out, it would stop (or do something else). This is different from how existing industrial robots work -- they'd just merrily continue the pick-and-place without the object.

      I have programmed industrial robots of different kinds for the last eight years, and I have not worked with - or even seen - a robot which does not detect when it drops something and reacts to it. Many existing robots can differentiate between different products by grasping them, and there are sensors which can identify products on sight or by size.

      Directly manipulating the robot to teach it has been attempted by ABB and other robot manufacturers, and the results have so far been unsatisfactory in practical use. It is mostly used for impressive displays at expos.