Debian Technical Committee Votes For Systemd Over Upstart

sfcrazy writes "Bdale Garbee,chairman of the Debian Technical Committee, called for a ballot from the TC to chose the default init system. The votes are in systemd is the clear winner here. Bdale himself voted for systemd."

Comments

Beta

[loufoque]

That's because upstart was BETA software from Canonical.

Re: Beta

[Anonymous Coward]

beta sucks hedgehog balls (and so does Timmmaay)

Re: Soooo....

[binarylarry]

So they banned you for spamming?

I'm so sad that I'm writing the world's smallest exotic tragedy finfic and sending it to your mta, over and over again.

RE:Soooo

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, you'll still think FUCK BETA is off topic? How quaint.

you like the Timothy auto feed too, huh?

Enjoy your lovely new brilliantly designed and targeted tech news website when it arrives!

(and they they made them turn against each other...those good ol propaganda tactics still work a treat, wake up someone's selling you!)

Nature takes care of mistakes like these.

[Anonymous Coward]

Nature has gotten pretty good at taking care of blatant mistakes. This is especially true in the software world.

Look at XFree86. They fucked up big-time, and now the project is basically dead. Almost everybody has abandoned it, never to return.

Look at GNOME 3. They fucked up big-time, and now the project is basically dead. Almost everybody has abandoned it, never to return.

Look at Windows 8. They fucked up big-time, and now Windows is sliding further into irrelevancy. People and companies are moving to OS X, Android, iOS and Linux, never to return to Windows.

Look at Firefox 4+. They fucked up big-time, and now the project is dying. Users are fleeing it in droves, never to return.

Look at Slashdot Beta. They fucked up big-time, and now the community is dying. People are leaving, or will be leaving, permanently, never to return.

Maybe Debian is next. They've made a bad decision, and it's likely that their importance will diminish, much like has happened to Fedora and other Linux distros that have made really stupid choices. People will move to Ubuntu, or even to the BSDs, never to return to Debian.

Re:Nature takes care of mistakes like these.

[superwiz]

Thinking that Windows is dead is so cute. Yeah, I had the "hate it" attitude around 3.11, too. But, you know, it's been a while. Win XP is still used after 13 years. You'd be hard pressed to find a linux distro with the same longevity. Heck, you'd be hard pressed to find a kernel release with the same longevity. In fact Win XP is so good that I only realized how good Win 7 was about a year ago. As desktop environments go, it's absolutely ridiculously amazing. Writing services for it is a pain, but I am guessing only because I never formally studied it and had to figure it out on my own. Windows 8 sucks? I have no idea. No one uses it. Win 7 is good enough. But if it really is a pain, it's a continuation of the pattern. The even-versioned releases of MS products always flop.

Re:Nature takes care of mistakes like these.

[Bryan Ischo]

I personally have tried a Mac. After 18 years of nearly Linux-exclusive computing, in 2012 I was wooed enough by the new retina Macbooks and tired enough of dealing with Linux suspend/resume/hibernate nightmares on laptops, that I decided to give a Mac a try.

Long story short: I like it, and nearly love it, but am disappointed in many aspects. The hardware is definitely a high point - I can honestly say that I have never owned another laptop with even close to the same quality of hardware design or manufacture as my 15 inch rMBP. And I say that despite having to return it to the store once to fix the image retention (at the same time getting a mainboard upgrade to fix the video flickering problem that was common on this laptop), again to fix the wireless that they somehow broke during the first fix, and finding that about 6 months later I killed 4 or 5 pixels on my own when a small grain of sand got onto the display and I closed it (the retina displays have literally *no* protection of the LCD surface and it is easy to pit/scratch them - my fault for taking the laptop on vacation I guess).

Mac OS X has impressed me with how well it integrates with its hardware, how nicely and seamlessly the UI functions, and how good the video drivers are. Also Apple's Objective C implementation and libraries are an interesting mix of weirdness and awesomeness, with the very best documentation I have ever read for any programming environment hands down (Microsoft's widows documentation is a complete and utter joke when compared to Linux man pages, let alone compared to the incredible documentation that Apple has for its APIs).

However - the Mac is still a let down in some areas. Printing is surprisingly difficult and bad. I am amazed that a company that created the desktop publishing market and that sold the first Laser printer, can have such an awful print dialog. It's inconsistent between apps and doesn't let me WYSIWYG the printouts whatsoever (I print alot of coloring pages for my kids and it's amazingly hard on the Mac, no matter what program I use, to get an image centered and fit to a page for printing). Also, some of the UI misbehaves sometimes - I've taken to completely disabling the wireless status icon in the menu bar because it tends to freeze up the entire menu bar functionality whenever it's searching for networks or otherwise unhappy. Which happens just about every time the laptop comes back from sleep.

Also I cannot stand the fact that Apple cannot give the user the choice of whether or not click-to-focus or focus-follows-mouse. Oh my god the number of times that I have been unable to interact with a program while looking at a web browser or somesuch because they overlap and I have to fidget and fuss with window positioning and size to be able to do my work. On any other system without this ridiculous flaw, I can type into my emacs buffer while observing some web page with documentation partially on top of some part of the emacs windows. But on Mac OS X I often just have to give up and copy-paste into a text edit window, save that to a file, and then open that within emacs because I just cannot manage to get the stupid windows to overlap in a way that lets me get what I need to do, done.

I think if Apple would not be such fascists about some UI policy, the Mac OS X experience would be alot better.

But overall, I'm like 90% happy with Mac OS X. Definitely beats the living hell out of Windows.

Re: Nature takes care of mistakes like these.

[smash]

Wow, that sounds way simpler than just browsing the network share that is already visible from within dolphin, from within VLC's file-open dialog, like I do with every other platform!

Re:Thank You Slashdot

[dmbasso]

Hopefully your kids are going to take the same stance (ignoring the issue) when you start dying of cancer. Then after you die, they can find another dad.