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Ubuntu 14.04 Brings Back Menus In Application Windows

sfcrazy writes "Canonical is bringing back menu integration with application windows. In 14.04 there will be an option for users to enable menus in application windows. That's a huge u-turn from Mark's stand on Global Menus which upset a lot of Ubuntu users."

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  1. Re:Quit mucking with the UI by moschner · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well it seems like in 14.04 global menus are the default, and the local menus are an option in the “Appearance” section of the Unity Control Center. That seems like a fair compromise.

  2. Re:Why? by jd2112 · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...ith the added insult of requiring gestures even on a mouse-based machine!

    I've been using Windows 8 for quite some time, and without commenting on my overall opinion, I have never once done anything that I would consider a "gesture."

    There is a certain gesture popular with Windows 8 users that is very commonly directed towards Microsoft, particularly before they find out about start menu replacements.

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  3. Re:OLD? Stupid crap still on 10.7 by Xenex · · Score: 5, Informative

    Global menus

    Mac OS has been like this since System 1. And it makes sense; whatever you're doing, its menu is going to be in the same place. Fitts' law indicates that the most quickly accessed targets on any computer display are the four corners of the screen.

    Single mouse click

    Mac OS has supported multiple mouse buttons for at least 16 years. Even when using a now-extinct one button mouse, control-click presented a dialogue box.

    Left window controls (yay for all the left handed and left eye dominant people, boo for the other 95% of the world)

    Because it's easier to move a mouse up/left with your right hand, and was developed in a country that reads left-to-right.

    Launchpad (how is the start menu missing causing a revolt and launchpad even exist? Launchpad is the initial SIN!)

    The start menu missing is causing a revolt because Microsoft removed something and replaced it with an abomination. Launchpad - and other questionable features like Dashboard - can be completely ignored.

    Finder layout straight out of system commander circa 1988.

    Column view in Finder is optional, with icon and list view still available. Also, Finder has had its sorting options greatly improved throughout OS X's history.

    Crap loads of docked icons you never use be default.

    If you go and buy a Mac today, this is in the Dock:
    - Finder: File management
    - Launchpad: Access to all apps not in the Dock (And easily ignored, as previously discussed)
    - Safari: A web browser
    - Mail: Email client
    - Contacts: An address book
    - Calendar: A calendar
    - Notes: Short notes
    - Maps: A map of the entire planet
    - Messages: Text messaging and IM
    - FaceTime: Video chat
    - Photo Booth: Something fun to play with on your new computer
    - iPhoto: Something to talk to your camera
    - Pages: Word processing
    - Numbers: Spreadsheets
    - Keynote: Presentations
    - iTunes: Play and purchase music and TV/movies
    - iBooks: Read and purchase books
    - App Store: Install and purchase software
    - System Preferences: Change settings on your computer

    The default Dock icons cover managing your computer, using the big two features of the Internet, syncing 'organisational' information with your phone, finding locations, messaging and video chatting with other people, photography, writing, processing numbers, creating presentations, watching media, reading, and installing an app to do anything else you want your computer to do. The default Dock is a slam-dunk for covering what the majority of people use computers for, points users in the right direction to add new capabilities to the computer, and is easily customised to remove the things you don't want. (Launchpad, again...)

    The Dock is setup perfectly for you to get started with your computer. Anything else you need to get to can either be accessed through Spotlight (power users) or Launchpad (for people with more experience with iOS).

    A separate contact and calendar app....

    Just like iOS... but also NeXTSTEP; they have always been separate apps, which makes finding what are ultimately different tasks easier *and* they also seamlessly share the same databases behind the scenes.

    General iOS crap

    Integration with touchpads is great. Removing always-visible scrollbars removes needless clutter. Things like Launchpad - and pretty much anything else you don't like that reminds you of iOS - are easily disabled or ignored.

    Hardwired application dependency locations (the whole point of applicat

  4. Re:Nice to have the choice by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Informative

    Then we get some of the silliness from Ubuntu trying to shove a new way down everyones' throat

    Oh yeah, they're REALLY forcing it down our throats...

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  5. Global/Local not the problem by aethelrick · · Score: 4, Informative

    Diclaimer: I use Linux every day for work. I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I don't use Unity.

    The usability problem with Unity menus is not that they are either local or global, it's the fact they they disappear every time you take your mouse away from them, please don't make me have to mouse over the window title to get the menu to appear. While this sounds simple enough to do, it causes you to haltingly mouse over the general area of the menu bar, then wait for the thing to render, then visually locate what you want, then mouse over it and click. In the good old days, one could just mouse over to the precise menu location and click-it in a single move

    Unity now provides the user with a choice as to whether they would like to break your menu in either a local way or a global way, sadly the problem still exists. Please stop breaking user interfaces with stupid design!

    For the record, I use MATE as my desktop because all this new fangled sausage-finger friendly crap is simply not a productive place to work

    meh