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Navy Won't Investigate Nuclear Pollution At San Francisco's Treasure Island

Lasrick writes "The Center for Investigative Reporting spent a year investigating whether San Francisco's Treasure Island is contaminated with radioactive material left over from the decades the island was a naval base. Treasure Island is being transferred into civilian hands, and the city of San Francisco has plans to turn it into a 'second downtown.' Despite the fact that radioactive debris has been found around the island, the Navy refuses to conduct testing that might show whether radiation cleanup should be started before development begins, Independent testing by CIR and others has found high levels of cesium 137 and other radioactive substances at several spots on the island, and by examining unclassified military documents, CIR has found that the history of the nuclear work done at Treasure Island and the lack of safety protocols at the time mean the contamination is most likely wide-spread. Complaints by current residents has only resulted in bureaucratic infighting among state health departments and the Navy."

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  1. Caveat emptor x2 by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let the buyer beware, and be extra wary when the seller is the one responsible for enforcing the safety of sellers.

    1. Re:Caveat emptor x2 by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      It's more like if public servants want to play with nuclear material they need to take responsibility for it. What would you do if your employee took this attitude?

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    2. Re:Caveat emptor x2 by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The navy isn't a public servant.

      That aside, they probably do not want to risk their already shrinking budget getting stuck with the cleanup. Instead, once it changes hands to another government entity, congress will allocate money through the superfund process already in place to deal with stuff like this. Its a wash to the tax payers as it would only be an accounting gimmack.

    3. Re:Caveat emptor x2 by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Isn't the US military controlled by the civilian government? They serve the civilian government, and by extension the civilians that the government represents.

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  2. Is it going to be paved? by NReitzel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If the area is going to end up paved, without wells or agriculture, then low level cesium contamination is beside the point.

    When Los Alamos (of Plutonium era) was refurbished for civilian use, the walls were painted over with bright red paint, followed by white paint. The paint was adequate to block plutonium alphas and daughter betas. The rule for the buildings was "if you see red, call maintenance."

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    1. Re:Is it going to be paved? by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Stop pointing out the facts!! The alarmism sells so much better, especially when it involves R A D I A T I O N ! !

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    2. Re:Is it going to be paved? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, I agree that demolition, paving, and construction does not throw up any dust. They can just paint the whole thing red first. No biggie . .. no need to test anything.

      You must always be giving out your brilliant ideas as random acts of kindness to humanity . . . or work for the NSA . . .

  3. Everyday Life Has Become a Health Risk by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The wind shifted
    back in the fifties particles drifted
    A wave set in motion
    the Pacific Ocean
    test of the hydrogen bomb
    There from would come
    too close to home
    ships from the test
    put to rest
    and convalesce with heavily armed guard
    in Hunter's Point shipyard
    Heavy metal sandblast
    Facemask

    Deoxidize
    Remove the radiation from the outside
    a hazardous cargo
    dumped into the harbor
    went farther then that though
    Sand from the blasting
    made into sidewalks
    played on by kids
    that just got over chicken-pox
    Glowing faces
    All races
    Hop-scrotch bare feet
    on Geiger counter concrete
    Mother prepares a fruit salad treat to eat
    sprayed with messed up pesticides
    none have been tested for health effects
    on the side

    Medical racist social statistics
    Has everyday life become a health risk

    Meanwhile, back in the backyard,
    father lights-up a barbeque fire
    and he sizzles hormone injected meat
    on top of a toxic source of heat
    He becomes light headed
    as the toxins easily meet
    with the lite beer in his head and
    he glances to his portable television set
    from his eyes he wipes the double vision sweat
    visions of white supremacists
    posing as right conservationists
    holding an Aryan agrarian Woodstock
    lead the stray sheep into the flock
    hookin' em in with the music of flower power
    change their energy into fire power

    Medical racist social statistics
    Has everyday life become a health risk

    All of a sudden
    acid rain falls from the sky
    and gets into the nuclear family picnic pie
    not to mention their Kool-Aid
    The nuclear family sits down to lunch
    They munch it down with acid rain punch
    and they begin to hallucinate
    disassociate
    the pain in their bodies
    from the pain in their minds
    They go inside and remember a time
    before the world went
    completely blind
    When people grew bald naturally
    no mutations
    unlike Skinheads
    and chemo-therapy patients

    Medical racist social statistics
    Has everyday life become a health risk

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  4. Ooh Scary! by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 5, Informative

    You have to read to just about the end to get this:

    Those concentrations do not confirm a health hazard, according to Jan Beyea, a prominent nuclear physicist specializing in the health effects of low-level radiation. They are no greater than common contamination worldwide from 20th-century nuclear fallout.

    1. Re:Ooh Scary! by compro01 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That line only applies to the cesium. The radium contamination is more relevant, as it means the building will have radon problems that will require dealing with.

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  5. Re:get the mythbusters to test for it by the_skywise · · Score: 2

    "Jamie... I'm glowing!"
    "Well there's your problem! I'd say that's Myth Confirmed!"
    "That's all well and good for you but I look like a dead Jedi Knight now! Although that's pretty cool!"

  6. And coming up next on Mythbusters! by the_skywise · · Score: 4, Funny

    Has Adam Savage gained super powers after his exposure to radiation?

    Jamie: "Okay, Adam jump off the top of the building!" ...
    Jamie: "Nope... can't fly..."

  7. no numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is telling that this news article, published in "The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists" contained zero quantitative radiation or dose rate information within its several thousand words. Lots of "He Said" stories but no numbers. Did the authors of the article labor under the false assumption that their intended audience was numerically illiterate or do they have nothing but unsubstantiated anecdotes?

  8. Re:It's deja vu ... by voodoo+cheesecake · · Score: 5, Informative

    Thought you might like this from Troubled Lands The Legacy of Soviet Environmental Destruction by D. J. Peterson
    http://www.rand.org/pubs/comme...
    (Chapter 5)

    "For example, in the town of Sillamae in northeastern Estonia, nearly
    300 children attending two kindergartens suffered a loss of hair in 1989.
    When the story first broke in March of that year, the Soviet press agency,
    TASS, reported that specialists initially had suspected the cause to be
    natural radioactivity emanating from local shale deposits. Subsequent
    tests, however, revealed that background radiation in the town was
    normal. After months of speculation and controversy, the former director
    of the Baltiets enterprise, a local defense industry, revealed that his com-
    pany had dumped radioactive wastes in the town. The two kinder-
    gartens were built over the dump, separated from it by only a thin layer
    of sand."

  9. The Army actually built this island from scratch.. by cyn1c77 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... now the corporate sector is getting impatient that they can't profit off of it! Ridiculous.

    The most cost efficient solution would be to just remove the highway exit leading to the island.

    Build a new island if you want to build high-priced condos to continue to overpopulate San Francisco. Or let the corporations that will profit off of the condos actually pay to cleanup the island.

  10. Re:Agreed. by mspohr · · Score: 2

    "As long as no one is ingesting or inhaling particles it shouldn't be a problem."

    Easy solution. Just hold your breath and don't eat or drink anything while on the island... people are such wimps.

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  11. Re:Smash U.S. imperialism! by Ex-MislTech · · Score: 2

    Though the current system here in the US resembles something Mussolini would setup...

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