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South Park Game Censored On Consoles Outside North America

RogueyWon writes "South Park has long been vocal in its opposition to media censorship from any source, launching scathing attacks on everything from 'think of the children' moral crusades to the censorship of religious imagery. In a curious twist, therefore, Ubisoft, the publisher of the upcoming video game South Park: The Stick of Truth, has decided to censor certain scenes from the game's Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 versions from release in Europe, Australia, the Middle East and Africa. American versions, as well as the European PC release, so far appear to have escaped the censor's pen."

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  1. Are you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are you sure that the US release wasn't also censored in some way?

    Here's how it works: US companies submit their games to US ratings boards FIRST, then they remove shit the US censors don't like, and once the US censors approve it, they sent it to ratings boards in other countries, who sometimes remove OTHER stuff.

    However, we, the consumers, never see the ORIGINAL version before the US censors make their cuts, because the game companies don't bother trying to put those things in non-US versions.

    When the Australian classification board said no to a few things in Saints Row IV, a big fuss was made, but Volition have mentioned in the past that US ratings board said no to a few things, and there was no outcry.

    From this, we learn: People are fine with censorship in the USA, but if it's allowed in the USA it should be allowed everywhere.

    1. Re:Are you sure? by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      /sigh

      Here's how it works: US companies

      Like Ubisoft?

      submit their games to US ratings boards

      The ESRB is a private industry group, and participation is entirely voluntary.

      then they remove shit the US censors don't like

      The ESRB doesn't care one way or the other. The "American" publishers tend to seek to avoid an AO ("Adults Only") rating, for marketing reasons, and will try to bring things down to an M ("Mature") rating so that certain big-name retailers will consent to carry the game. But games that get an AO rating are certainly free to keep that rating and have been published in the past, and publishers are free to skip the rating process entirely (e.g. I've seen more than a few localized Japanese H-games that don't bother formalizing the AO rating they'd obviously get).

      However, we, the consumers, never see the ORIGINAL version before the US censors make their cuts, because the game companies don't bother trying to put those things in non-US versions.

      Publishers don't sell an "unrated" version of a particular game in North America (ESRB includes Canada) because they know that not enough customers will go out of their way to find retail channels that will carry AO/unrated games to make the the prospect financially viable. Conversely, publishers don't sell an "unrated" version of a particular game in Germany or Australia because it would be illegal.

  2. I disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anything to incite civil unrest against a group of people(no, the government doesn't count) and lies to discredit people.

    That pretty much means NO criticisms against religion - especially Islam.

    The things that are done in this World in the name of [insert religion - including Buddhists ] is appalling. The religious fundamentalists, unwilling and unable to adjust to the modern World, are bullying everyone else with violence, lobbying and other political maneuvering and outright lies - like Creation Museums.

    There's a point when you just have to stand up to the bully. Those people need to be told - shouted down - that they are backwards, full of shit, and if they are going to live among us, they need to STFU.

    Or compromise like the Amish do in the US. I highly respect those folks. They stick to their values, they don't try to force them on others, and they found a way to live peacefully and well with the modern World.

    1. Re: I disagree by TheP4st · · Score: 4, Informative

      or scientology

      Not true, South Park have poked fun at Scientology more than once. Example: http://www.southparkstudios.co...

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      "I have downloaded hundreds and hundreds of records, why would I care if somebody downloads ours?" Robin Pecknold
  3. Re:Well... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Censorship is typically used by the powerful to maintain their power. This is no different in a democracy -- the power hungry simply jump through an additional hoop of stirring up many people to join in the censorship. These people happily re-elect said censor.

    If this does not highlight the difference between freedom and democracy for those of you who think mass approval is the necessary and sufficient, indeed only, justification for wielding power, I don't know what will.

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  4. Re:Hate speech, and Libel/Slander by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those should be disallowed.

    And also, Canada, whose citizens I irrationally blame for this entire mess! Especially you, Scott!!!

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    SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
  5. Re:Damnit Australia by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Middle-Eastern version will just be a character sitting around in a empty room, sipping tea. And several imams will STILL condemn it as blasphemous.

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    SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
  6. Re:Hate speech, and Libel/Slander by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Inciting a riot, ill give you that one.

    Wouldn't it be better to make rioting illegal, rather than speaking?

  7. Re:what the *beep* by RogueyWon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, we're generally much more prone to censorship here in Europe. Many of the countries in the EU have hang-ups on particular issues for historical reasons (eg. Germany on Nazi imagery and violence, France on the use of other languages). Many countries are also developing exciting new hang-ups and things they can censor, driven mainly by the three prongs of the Islamic far-right (pushing hard for new blasphemy laws), the authoritarian left (in thrall to both multiculturalism and radical feminism, both of which depend upon censorship) and an overbearing security culture (well... see pretty much 50% of slashdot's front page stories). And the general approach taken by the EU is to adopt the most draconian elements of each member nation's policies. If we get through the next German presidency of the EU without its ridiculous censorship standards being forced on the whole of Europe, we shall be extremely lucky.

    Individuals and corporates in the US certainly practice self-censorship. But you are much more likely to encounter state-censorship in Europe - and it's getting more likely all the time.

    But we're generally ok with swearing. So it's all absolutely fine.