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Will Peggy the Programmer Be the New Rosie the Riveter?

theodp writes "The Mercury News' Mike Cassidy reports that women are missing out on lucrative careers in computer science. 'The dearth of women in computing,' writes Cassidy, 'has the potential to slow the U.S. economy, which needs more students in the pipeline to feed its need for more programmers. It harms women by excluding them from some of the best jobs in the country. And it damages U.S. companies, which studies show would benefit from more diverse teams.' The promise of better financial results, says Anita Borg Institute Director Denise Gammal, is making diversity a business imperative. It's 'the sort of imperative that cries out for a movement,' argues Cassidy, 'maybe this time one led not by Rosie the Riveter, but by Peggy the Programmer.' So, where will Peggy the Programmer come from? Well, Google is offering $100 to girls attending U.S. public high schools who complete a Codecademy JavaScript course. 'Currently only 12% of computer science graduates are women,' explains Codecademy, 'and great tech companies like Google want to see more smart girls like you enter this awesome profession!' Google joins tech giant-backed Code.org in incentivizing teachers to bring the next generation of girls to the CS table.

But Silicon Valley claims the talent crisis is now (although there are 19 billion reasons to question SV's hiring acumen). So, what about the women who are here now, asks Dr. AnnMaria De Mars. 'If you are overlooking the women who are here now,' De Mars writes, 'what does that tell the girls you are supposedly bringing up to be the next generation of women in tech that you can overlook 15 years from now? Why do we hear about 16-year-old interns far more than women like me? If it is true, as the New York Times says, that in 2001-2 28% of computer science degrees went to women compared to the 10% or so now — where are those women from 12 years ago? It seems to me that when people are looking at minorities or women to develop in their fields, they are much more interested in the hypothetical idea of that cute 11-year-old girl being a computer scientist someday than of that thirty-something competing with them for market share or jobs. If there are venture capitalists or conference organizers or others out there that are sincerely trying to promote women who code, not girls, I've never met any. That doesn't mean they don't exist, but it means that whoever they are seeking out, it isn't people like me.'"

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  1. Geez... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Seriously, what the fuck difference does it make what sex, race or religion you are to be in IT??!?!

    If a group isn't interested, they aren't fucking interested. You don't HAVE to have two of every creature in every positon.

    Hell, the NBA is really lacking of white college educated women....are we freaking out and trying to induce them with $100 to work to get into the NBA (and god help them if the teams discrimate!!).

    Geez, please...get over it..people will do what people want to do.

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    1. Re:Geez... by firex726 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yea, there was a Ruby workshop I was interested in attending; but seems it was only open to women.
      If they felt men as a gender would be disruptive then that should be handled on an individual basis regardless of gender, and even then I find it hard to believe that it'd be a widespread issue.

      As it stands, women probably have a far greater opportunity advantage from Diversity Quotas, Gendered Scholarships, and Classes. lsu many of the complaints can be attributed to the female dominated HR field; which has shown that women in HR will not hire other women they consider to be prettier then themselves.

  2. Get Over it FFS by BitZtream · · Score: 5, Funny

    MOST women don't like to code, stop fucking trying to turn them into programming machines. Some do, good for them, let them be great programmers, but for fucks sake stop trying to force women to do shit most of them have no interest in doing. Its not going to get you a girlfriend, you'll still be an asshole.

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  3. Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was wondering when this topic would finally get some coverage again. It's been at least a week since this important injustice graced the front page.

    Well done slashdot, your click bait got me again.

  4. Todd the Teacher.. by thesupraman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You missed the big one.

    Todd the Teacher.

    Men have been practically excluded from teaching, by being painted with the sexist assumptions
    that they are all child molesters and pedophiles with nothing positive to contribute.

    In comparison to this particular problem, an imbalance in programmers is nothing.. bias in the
    teaching of our children should be a huge priority, and yet, its not....

    1. Re:Todd the Teacher.. by onkelonkel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is a huge problem for elementary (Grade 1 to 7 ) schools. Any male teacher who wants to work in elementary schools and isn't a specialist (Librarian or Music Teacher) is viewed with great suspicion.He must be some kind of pedophile. The school I went to as a child had 5 male teachers out of 25 total. Now 25 years later my kids are there, and there are no male teachers at all and 35 women.

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  5. It's a matter of biology by wilson_c · · Score: 5, Funny

    They just don't have the upper body strength that the job requires.

  6. I think not. by sesshomaru · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No. No she won't.

    Padma the Programmer, however, is a name with potential.

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