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WikiLeaks Cables Foreshadow Russian Instigation of Ukrainian Military Action

Now that Russia has sent troops to seize the Crimean Peninsula, international politics are tense and frantic. An anonymous reader notes an article from Joshua Keating at Slate, which points out that some of the diplomatic cables on WikiLeaks illustrate how this situation is not at all unexpected. Quoting a cable from October, 2009: "... pro-Russian forces in Crimea, acting with funding and direction from Moscow, have systematically attempted to increase communal tensions in Crimea in the two years since the Orange Revolution. They have done so by cynically fanning ethnic Russian chauvinism towards Crimean Tatars and ethnic Ukrainians, through manipulation of issues like the status of the Russian language, NATO, and an alleged Tatar threat to 'Slavs,' in a deliberate effort to destabilize Crimea, weaken Ukraine, and prevent Ukraine's movement west into institutions like NATO and the EU." The article points out another cable from a few days later, which was titled, "Ukraine-Russia: Is Military Conflict No Longer Unthinkable?"

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  1. Re:"pro-Russian forces in Crimea" by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just like the Cold War when half the world's nations were treated like nothing more than political footballs by both sides. It's partly why the Middle East is such a mess as both sides propped up dictators and fools and blowback fuel.

  2. Well ... what do you expect by giorgist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the US could invade Iraq without UN support and under the pretense of the moral high ground as defined by the US, then so can Russia invade Crimea. If the Kosovo can leave Serbia and become it's own country under the support of the US even though it is historically Serbian but by population Albanian so can Crimea which has a Russian majority. The US has made their bed and now it is sleeping in it. Precedence is a bitch, the US set the precedent and now they are winging about what is happening in Crimea !! Russia supplies 60% of Europe's energy and it will increase to 80% ... the US has nothing to stand on. If they apply sanctions, the Russians will increase the price of gas and oil and have Europe pay for them just for giggles.

    1. Re:Well ... what do you expect by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You seem to have forgotten Bush's temper tantrum when the UNSC refused to endorse his invasion plans. The things you list were reasons to invade but they don't add up to a "right" to invade, to do that the US had to dump long held foreign policy, ignore existing treaties, and adopt something called the Bush doctrine.

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    2. Re:Well ... what do you expect by cold+fjord · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The US spent a lot on color revolution efforts over the years and really wants to see some payback

      Russia has spent a lot on separatism efforts in many countries after the Soviet Union, centered in Russia, had previously shipped ethnic Russians to live in many occupied countries, often after engaging in various flavors of ethnic cleansing or other mass killings. We can expect more "protection" to be needed by those Russian in years to come, and Russian aggression and occupation of those countries will always be a danger under the current Russian government.

      US campaign behind the turmoil in Kiev (26 November 2004)
      http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

      There is a great deal that the account you reference leaves out, including government election fraud and thuggery. Lets add some more background.

      Ukraine's Orange Revolution

      The US really wants NATO up against Russia (encirclement, containment) - like the Soviet Union used Cuba.

      Having regained its independence after a long, bitter period of foreign rule, Ukraine really, really wants to remain independent with its territory intact. By itself against Russia it is unlikely to do so given Russia's history and power, as we are seeing demonstrated now, and previously in Georgia.

      You may recall that the Ukrainians have plenty of motivation to be free of Russia since a special word is used for the crime against humanity inflicted upon them by the Soviet Union, the heart of which was Russia: Holodomo. The Ukrainian terror famine killed perhaps as many as 10,000,000 people as the police, secret police, and army were used to confiscate food and prevent people from leaving.

      The Soviet Story - trailer
      The Great Famine

      The Soviet Union had to be contained, Russia didn't ..... or are we seeing now that it does?

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  3. Re:"pro-Russian forces in Crimea" by ultranova · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, as a Russian citizen I don't consider the government to be in any way imperialist.

    That's probably safest. Wouldn't want to accidentally eat polonium.

    There was outright attempt of genocide in Ossetia.

    Of course there was. And Winter War was started by the shelling of Mainila.

    Some countries never change. But at least they act as efficient evangelists for Nato.

    Both Ukraine and Georgia issues are started by blatant cases of cultural imperialism.

    No, they were started by Putin trying to build a third Russian Empire on the ruins of Soviet Union. At this point the hope for Russia, the region and perhaps the world is that old age does its job before he can cause irreparable damage.

    The truly sad thing is that it's saber-rattling like this that keeps Russia from assuming the place its size, population and natural resources would otherwise entitle it to. No one wants to deal with people who renege on their deals and send in the military the second they get - or manufacture - an excuse. Why do you think Ukrainians hated the very thought of "closer ties" - also known as chains - with Russia enough to revolt?

    All former soviet republic countries are ruled by former soviet statesmen who want to justify their positions by encouraging local nationalism.

    And Russia is the worst of the lot.

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