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Android Beats iOS As the Top Tablet OS

sfcrazy writes "Linux is on a roll. After conquering the smartphone space, Android is now dominating the tablet space. According to a new study by Gartner, 'the tablet growth in 2013 was fueled by the low-end smaller screen tablet market, and first time buyers; this led Android to become the No. 1 tablet operating system (OS), with 62 percent of the market.'" Also, everyone is buying tablets.(~200 million sold in 2013 vs ~115 million in 2012). Microsoft still only has 2% of the tablet market.

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  1. The year of the Linux Tablet by Niterios · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is finally here! Now we just need it to be an open platform.

    1. Re:The year of the Linux Tablet by Wild_dog! · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sailfish OS based on Meego will soon be installable on Android tablets and phones. Bingo.

    2. Re:The year of the Linux Tablet by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "premiere tablet platform"?

      Biased much?

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    3. Re:The year of the Linux Tablet by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Bias" is the name of one of my indispensable music performance and recording applications. :-)

      From Positive Grid.

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    4. Re:The year of the Linux Tablet by vux984 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, from way back this morning there is this guy:

      http://features.slashdot.org/s...

      -----IPADS. So many possibilities, sooooo cheap.

      I would encourage a new composer on a budget to start with an iPad, and challenge them to fill it up with software using the $5,000-$50,000 they just saved. Go nuts--you'll never exhaust the budget!! I've created sounds that have suited my clients needs very well, using the following iPad apps...

      One of the most insightful and interesting ask slashdots I've read.

      Or right, he said -composer-, not -producer-. So your both right... ipads aren't adequate for production... but apparently quite good for composition.

    5. Re:The year of the Linux Tablet by tysonedwards · · Score: 4, Informative

      From the same article, I wouldn't really call Apple on the downward slide. They have been selling more tablets than ever, and more than Samsung, Asus, Amazon and Lenovo combined. In fact, all 5 have been growing tremendously Year-over-Year. The difference here is that there has been a significant increase in the "Others" category, all of the other manufacturers who on their own would be considered a rounding error in the report. This is more the case of the Bargain Bin models increasing the size of the market larger than the "Big Boys" care to play in. Example: Samsung isn't rushing out to release a $49 tablet to compete with RCA.

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    6. Re:The year of the Linux Tablet by ottothecow · · Score: 2
      The audio latency issues on android are kind of a shame.

      The one reason I almost bought an ipad instead of an android tablet was basically so I could use the ReBirth app (and maybe other music apps in the future). Figured it wasn't worth double the money for a single app when I got a deal on a 2013 Nexus 7...but I wish I could run it.

      There are some alternatives but the audio latency just kills it. You can write stuff and then hit play, but you can't adjust it on the fly without lag. If you are writing it in advance, might as well use a computer since you aren't taking advantage of a big multitouch control surface to have live control of multiple effects.

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    7. Re:The year of the Linux Tablet by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've got several of those $50, 5" Android tablets. They are perfectly suited for use as SONOS/Z Wave controllers around the home. Fast and responsive when doing that. Why buy a $300+ tablet for such a mundane task? I'd rather have 6 of these lower-end controllers rather than one - and I can leave them around in all the rooms of the house. Choice is wonderful!

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    8. Re:The year of the Linux Tablet by smash · · Score: 2

      RDP + SSH = tablet usable for 99% of my job.

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    9. Re:The year of the Linux Tablet by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

      desperate for sales, and they're planning on penetrating the Tablet market bigtime.

      TFTFY.

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    10. Re:The year of the Linux Tablet by cheesybagel · · Score: 2

      Makes sense. It even uses a thermionic valve as a symbol. If that isn't a symbol of snotty audiophilia I don't know what is.

    11. Re:The year of the Linux Tablet by cheesybagel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Losing market share. You know. The title of this article.

    12. Re:The year of the Linux Tablet by DJRumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They do this every time. Gartner left out almost 4 million Apple sales. Those were actual sales, rather than 'shipped'. This happens every time, and we always find out later that Shipped from folks like Samsung != Sales from Apple.

      Apple reports Sales. The others do not.

      http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/03/03/gartner-ignores-apples-sales-numbers-reports-android-marketshare-doubled-ipad-in-2013

    13. Re: The year of the Linux Tablet by kthreadd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Too bad almost no one uses AOSP, but relies on the Google Play services which are non-free. Almost like saying that OS X is open because Darwin is.

  2. Re:So what? by MightyYar · · Score: 2

    I don't think it is the quality of the apps that drives people not to purchase the Android version - I think it is the nature of the buyer. Most of these Android tablets are low-end... people saving perhaps $50. Cost conscious people are not going to be the best customers for an app store. Yes, I know there are high-end Android devices. I'd wager that people who buy those end up making just as many app purchases as iPad buyers. I'd also wager that the number of high-end Android devices sold is not a terribly significant part of the market, yet probably accounts for all of the profit.

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  3. ANDROID != LINUX by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't believe.

    There is NO Posix userspace on Android.
    Posix kernel land is locked/limited.

    Why does it take 16 GB RAM to compile the Android tarball? That's some BEAUTIFUL community inclusion!

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    1. Re:ANDROID != LINUX by farble1670 · · Score: 3, Funny

      ~/src (develop) $ adb shell
      root@android:/ # uname -a /system/bin/sh: uname: not found
      127|root@android:/ #

    2. Re:ANDROID != LINUX by schnell · · Score: 5, Informative

      So what?

      Giving Linux credit for Android is like saying that FreeBSD is a major desktop OS because of MacOS X, or a major mobile OS because of iOS. It's not. All the bits that make it a success were added by someone else and the underlying kernel is essentially invisible to the end user.

      Celebrate Google's success with Android. Don't try to turn it into a success story for Linux when it's not. Linux has succeeded remarkably well in the server and embedded spaces but has not been terribly successful in the desktop or mobile spaces. And you know what? That's okay.

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    3. Re:ANDROID != LINUX by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's the Linux kernel, for chrissakes. Why you would count embedded Linux installs and not Android is beyond me.

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    4. Re:ANDROID != LINUX by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

      It's a Linux kernel, but it's not a Linux platform. It's good for kernel development because they have all these big juicy Google brain cells hacking in the kernel. It's a total wash for Linux application developers, because Android might as well be iOS in terms of porting their software to a phone.

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    5. Re:ANDROID != LINUX by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      And many of the embedded Linux platforms are any different.

      Since when did userland count for more than the kernel?

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    6. Re:ANDROID != LINUX by caseih · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes but Linux is really just incidental. It might have been picked for cost, or stability, or openness, but it's irrelevant to Android and Android users, for all intents and purposes. Sure those of us that know how can install a posix userspace and get a Linux shell. But most people will never see beyond the apps, which are targeting a specific VM stack that could easily have been developed to run on a different kernel, either home-grown, or a commercial alternative like QNX. In fact we know this is true because there are ways of running Android apps on Blackberry and even MS Windows. So don't be too proud that Linux powers Android. Especially not until we can run Android on a stock Linux kernel. So far as I know Google still hasn't merged all their changes (some have been merged), so I consider Android's kernel a fork for now.

    7. Re:ANDROID != LINUX by elfprince13 · · Score: 2

      You're missing the point. Saying that a kernel is or isn't successful because it's distributed with a different userland than usual is (a) just wrong, and (b) a completely different sort of claim than that a particular software distribution is or isn't successful because various components have been integrated elsewhere.

    8. Re:ANDROID != LINUX by Fri13 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You are so wrong.

      Linux kernel is a monolithic kernel what means Linux kernel is the complete operating system. There is no other software needed to add to have full operating system than just the Linux kernel.

      Same thing is with FreeBSD, OpenBSD etc what are all using a monolithic operating systems architecture, not the Server-Client operating systems architecture like XNU and NT, operating systems of OS X, iOS and Windows, Windows RT and Windows Phone.

      XNU operating system does have servers from FreeBSD, but the whole XNU operating system or most important part of it, the microkernel, is not from FreeBSD. The Apple toke network stack and filesystems functions from a FreeBSD and made them operate as servers instead modules and used them in XNU.

      Linux has conquered the world. It is used in most servers, most embedded systems and in most mobile devices from smartphones to now tablets. Linux operating system is most used operating system in the IT history by its wide usage purposes instead being just targeted to specific use (like only on embedded systems). Linux has proofen that monolithic operating system architecture is superior to server-client (aka microkernel) architecture in security, speed and stability. Because its open licensing and huge community, Linux hardware support and level is second to none. The Linux operating system is licensed under GPLv2 and it secures its openess (even that some would like to it be GPLv3 or BSD) and it truely was the most important decision what Linus Torvalds made, to use GPLv2 instead own or other license.

      Linux deserves the credit for being most used operating system. It has already passed the install base of Microsoft or Apple developed operating systems by two fold, thanks to mobile world. Thanks to Linux, we have truely a open operating system used in the world, what is requiring hardware and software developers to take Open Source seriously, even Microsoft admitting that Linux operating system is more widely used and Open Source isn't "a cancer" or threat to industry jobs.

      Every success what Android gets, is success for Linux as it is the operating system in Android. It isn't even directly success to Google either, because Android is developed by Open Handset Alliance (OHA) what is lead by Google. Every OHA member is free to improve Android and send patches. But Google makes sure that Android AOSP stay clean from proprietary code or functions what would benefit only a single authority.
      Many falsely believes that Google applications and services (gapps) belongs to Android, while they don't. Google applications framework and all applications are third party to Android like Samsung S-series software is for Android or Microsoft software for Android is third party. The difference is just with the Google that if you want to call your device as Android device, you need to be OHA member and then pre-install only the Google Play (not required to install Google Maps, Gmail or any other applications for Google services) and you are free then to install any alternative services for Google services, but you can not block device user from installing any other third party (including Google Maps, Google Search or Gmail) applications and make them as default instead your chosen ones.

      You are as well required to not modify Android API/ABI so that you don't have 100% Android compatibility. And here is again the other mistake what people make, as Hardware differences (display, resolution, CPU, GPU, amount of RAM, camera, flash, microphones, compass etc etc) are the one what you are free to design and use as OEM. And if Android application developer has designed their application to need hardware functions like front camera and rear camera flash, then if you have cheap Android device what is missing both, you can not see or install that application from Play store because your hardware doesn't fill the requirements the application developer has chosen to. It isn't fault of Android or it doesn't require application developer to test their software on

    9. Re:ANDROID != LINUX by caseih · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Do you deny that Android apps can run on an Android stack on QNX or Windows? Android is the environment: the whole stack, of which a major component is a virtual machine. The bottom of the pyramid is the Linux kernel, as you say, but I maintain it's not technically an essential part and could be replaced, with enough effort. I'm not sure how well BlueStacks or Windroy run at present, but they certainly run on a Windows kernel. And I'm not saying the kernel of Android is likely to change. Only that it could very well have been different.

      Yes you're right that by choosing Linux to be the kernel of Android, there have been benefits that flowed back into the community, though I do note that Android's kernel is still technically a fork of Linux, and hasn't yet been integrated into the mainline git repositories that I know of.

      Not everyone shares your narrow definition of "operating system." The definition I was taught in uni, which is shared by some random wikipedia editor, is that the Operating System is a collection of software that manages resources and provides services for a program to run on top of it. By this definition, Android *is* the OS, and happens to have a Linux kernel at its core. It's also the reason that Stallman insists on Linux distributions, "GNU/Linux." Also, many distros correctly call themselves "Operating Systems." Debian calls itself "the Universal Operating System" and comes with either a Linux kernel or a FreeBSD kernel.

    10. Re:ANDROID != LINUX by marcello_dl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Gentlemen, to clear up the terminology confusion, I suggest to:
      - call the kernel "Linux"
      - call the kernel + GNU userland GNU/Linux
      - call the linux based Google's operating system Android/Linux

      The reason nobody else came up with this classification before is beyond me.

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  4. And yet apple sells more tablets than anybody by noh8rz10 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Who is making all these tablets? Here's the rough breakdown of 2013 unit volume from Gartner for worldwide:
    * Apple 36%
    * Samsung 19%
    * ASUS 6%
    * Amazon 5%
    * Lenovo 3%
    * All others 31%

    the first notable thing is that Apple sells more than Samsung, Asus, Amazon, and Lenovo combined. The second notable thing, who is the "all others"? All sort of white-label chinese makers? Who is buying these? And can you say that these are truly Android tablets if they have some sort of modified android 2.3?

    Here are the categories that I see in this market:

    * iOS
    * "Premium" Android. The Galaxy Tabs, the Nexus tablets, etc. Sold in US, EU, etc. The ones we are familiar with
    * Kindle
    * MS Surface
    * white label tablets. Presumably built and sold in China, elsewhere.

    We need to recognize that premium android might as well be a different OS than white label android. The apps will be different, the languages will be different, the monetization will be different, the fragmentation will be different. For all intensive purposes premium android is as removed from white label android as it is from kindle.

    1. Re:And yet apple sells more tablets than anybody by SeaFox · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The second notable thing, who is the "all others"? All sort of white-label chinese makers? Who is buying these?

      Brands like Haier, Eviant, etc Yes. White label Chinese makers for the most part.

      The people buying them a schmucks who still watch QVC/HSN and think they're getting a good deal when they could do better, with the same convenience, buy turning on their computer and shopping online.

      They should adjust those numbers for the devices that are returned to the manufacture for hardware issues, because I can tell you from professional experience these "other" tablets are junk.

    2. Re:And yet apple sells more tablets than anybody by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Informative

      * white label tablets. Presumably built and sold in China, elsewhere.

      White label tablets are sold in China, but also everywhere else. Rebranded as Aldi / Staples / Wal-Mart or what have you.

      We need to recognize that premium android might as well be a different OS than white label android. The apps will be different, the languages will be different, the monetization will be different, the fragmentation will be different.

      What are you talking about? I have a white-box Chinese Android tablet. It came with Android 4.2, gmail, Play store, google maps, etc. All of the no-name (Aldi Branded / Walmart / etc) tablets I've seen are the same.

      For all intensive purposes premium android is as removed from white label android as it is from kindle.

      Totally incorrect. The cheaper manufacturers actually provide a better android experience as they're using 'pure' android rather than putting shitty touch-wiz / sense style overlays & attempting to sign you up for a million stupid Samsung / etc services.

      Oh - and you say "for all intents and purposes". Think about it. Intensive purposes makes no sense in the context this phrase is typically used in.

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    3. Re:And yet apple sells more tablets than anybody by seyyah · · Score: 2

      For all intensive purposes premium android is as removed from white label android as it is from kindle.

      A link for you: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki...

    4. Re:And yet apple sells more tablets than anybody by melchoir55 · · Score: 2

      What on earth is "premium android"? Do you mean "custom ROM"? Anyone can install a custom ROM on just about any android device. There is no appreciable software difference between a knockoff tablet maker and samsung. If anything, knockoff tablets tend to run better android mods than samsung devices. Of course this hardly matters since anyone can customize the OS however they like, or install an entirely different flavor of android.

      The main difference is in the raw power of the hardware. I realize the power of the hardware isn't something apple people think about... but it is one side of two coins. Software and Hardware make a tablet. Every android user has access to the same software. Better hardware costs more money. Every apple user has access to the same software, and the same hardware.

      You're complaining that Android is cheating by inflating its numbers. You are blind to the point that this is one of the very strengths of android. It is an open platform which anyone can employ. As such, a lot of people tend to employ it. To say Apple has less market share than android is surely true. Further, it is not a trivial thing to say. Apple once dominated the tablet and smartphone market when compared to Android. Now they are falling behind. The reason they are falling behind is the same reason they fell behind in the 90s. They sell closed, proprietary tech. This philosophy has been largely abandoned by the market in the 2000s because it has a lot of disadvantages to the consumer, which means the consumer eventually stops buying it.

      Apple is going to lose relevance in the USA over the next 5 years and gain relevance oversees (though not at an equal rate). I'm betting that apple is going to start seeing a drop in revenue 5 years from now after revenue growth slowly peters out. They could avoid it, but they won't. Their philosophy doesn't allow it. When I say I'm betting this will happen, I mean it in the strongest possible sense.

      10 years from now apple will be right back where it was in 1995. Clueless executives, inferior and overpriced product, and a market no longer willing to buy it because it is chic.

    5. Re:And yet apple sells more tablets than anybody by whisper_jeff · · Score: 4, Interesting

      White label tablets also include TV dongles that happen to run Android - for some reason, they track as "tablet". Presumably it's the most accurate of the choices available. Despite it not being a tablet, at all.

      And there are a LOT of these TV dongles out there. For example, do a search on Amazon or eBay for "android tv dongle".

      Skewed and distorted numbers.

    6. Re:And yet apple sells more tablets than anybody by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What are you smoking? Those shitty tablets have one thing in common and that is a shitty screen. The touch screen is by far the most important part of the tablet experience and a shitty screen makes for one bad experience. That's the first thing I noticed when I picked up the Samsung Galaxy tablet. A screen to rival the iPad. That was the beginning of actual competition. Before that it didn't exist. I see those crap tablets on Craigslist all the time at giveaway prices.

    7. Re:And yet apple sells more tablets than anybody by jon3k · · Score: 2

      It's garbage $100 tablets, or less. Resistive and very low resolution screens with sub 1Ghz processors. Things that are given away as gifts or used once and never touched again. Just cheap shit being cranked out in China.

    8. Re:And yet apple sells more tablets than anybody by noh8rz10 · · Score: 2

      everything you say is contradicted elsewhere on this thread. All reports say that these white box tablets are cheap, with bad screens and slow guts. that does NOT provide a "better" android experience.

      The point is that there's a good size portion of the android market that are crap and junk.

    9. Re:And yet apple sells more tablets than anybody by amiga3D · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not the resolution so much as how when you tap the screen it works. I've played with a bunch of the cheapo tablets and you tap, then tap, then tap and maybe something happens. I don't like it when a tablet ignores input.

  5. Well DUH by nurb432 · · Score: 2

    There is one manufacturer of iOS tablets, there are butt loads of android tablet makers.

    That fact alone tips the balance. And like the story says, lots of them are *cheap*, in a market where apple would never tread.

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  6. Questionable Numbers by whisper_jeff · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sure, if you go with Gartner's numbers which undercut Apple's reported sales figures (you know, numbers that undergo SEC scrutiny for accuracy) by almost 4 million units while also adding in Android "white box" units that include TV dongles which track as tablets despite being not-at-all tablets while also clouding the results by reporting Apple's sales-to-end-users numbers with Android's shipped-into-channel numbers. So, yeah, if you cut Apple's numbers and artificially inflate Android's numbers, yes, Android is beating iOS in the tablet space.

    And now you may mod me troll while claiming I'm just an Apple fanboy for speaking the truth.

    I have such fond memories of when this site wasn't such a blatant tool of spin doctors for certain industry interests...

    1. Re:Questionable Numbers by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have such fond memories of when this site wasn't such a blatant tool of spin doctors for certain industry interests...

      Meh. Slashdot stories have long reported Gartner's dodgy numbers at face value, even though pretty much every single such story contains multiple comments pointing out how absurd those numbers are.

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    2. Re:Questionable Numbers by whisper_jeff · · Score: 2

      I would equate enforcing penalties with the numbers being under scrutiny but, sure, if you want to get picky about details like that - Apple's numbers are actionable if they are wrong while Gartner's are apparently pulled out of thin air. My point remains the same.

    3. Re:Questionable Numbers by swillden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Meh. Even if you're right it doesn't matter, because while the details of the current positions may be fuzzy, the trend is crystal clear.

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  7. Re:Trollbait article by linuxci · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd avoid any of these compromise tablets like the surface. I've used them (at work) an they really combine all the disadvantages of a tablet with the disadvantages of a laptop, they're the worst of both worlds.

    For example, you can't use the keyboard cover of the surface unless it's on a flat surface. Personally I often use my laptop in bed, which needs a solid keyboard.

    The surface has a mix of Metro and desktop UI, I ended up getting frustrated when trying to manipulate the desktop UI I ended up plugging in a mouse.

    Some of the control panel items are in Metro, others are Windows Classic.

    Microsoft have not shown a good history in updating their consumer devices, for example most Windows Phone 7 devices could not be updated to WP 8.

  8. It is. by Sable+Drakon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Android IS an open platform. It's entirely up to you if you want to be locked into Google's ecosystem or not. Install Cyanogenmod or another third-party ROM, then look as there's no GApps or Google all over your phone. But remember it's now up to you to sideload a new app store and get the APKs to what non-Google services you use.

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  9. Re:Sales figures by Rosyna · · Score: 3, Informative

    No idea how they make up sales numbers.

    Apple's own sales numbers say they sold 74 million iPads in 2014. Not sure how gartner lost 4 million.

    Also, Apple's numbers are reported as sales to users, everyone else uses sales to channel (the channel can return unsold stock to the company in the following quarter but can still claim it sold that many)

  10. Re:Slightly biased... by brantondaveperson · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... because it's the form factor of a kindle

    I'm wondering, if you wanted a 7" tablet, why you didn't buy an iPad mini instead? Seems a bit unfair to criticise the iPad on size, when the mini is available and is pretty much the same size as a Nexus 7. Not to mention a bit cheaper than the full size iPad.

    As a counter-datapoint, I took a couple of Nexus 7's home during the Christmas holidays. And the kids didn't like them at all, and instead fought over the one iPad. Now, this might just be because kids are dumb and like the bigger thing just because it's bigger, and also I'm beginning to suspect that they also quite like fighting just for the hell of it. But the Nexus' didn't charge their batteries while in use and plugged in, whereas the iPad did. Pretty annoying.

  11. Re:I love my Android tablet by brantondaveperson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On both iOS and Android you can use something called Puffin browser. Five minutes using that thing, and you realise why no mobile OS has any interest in supporting Flash. But if you really need Flash, it's there.

  12. Re:I love my Android tablet by linuxci · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's Adobe that dropped support for Flash on Android.

    In the end it's a good thing. It's a massive battery drain and if both iOS and Android don't support it then there"s less use of it for needless purposes.

  13. Re:So what? by Nyder · · Score: 2

    I don't think it is the quality of the apps that drives people not to purchase the Android version - I think it is the nature of the buyer. Most of these Android tablets are low-end... people saving perhaps $50. Cost conscious people are not going to be the best customers for an app store. Yes, I know there are high-end Android devices. I'd wager that people who buy those end up making just as many app purchases as iPad buyers. I'd also wager that the number of high-end Android devices sold is not a terribly significant part of the market, yet probably accounts for all of the profit.

    I recently bought myself my first tablet. Cheap, $150 10.1" screen, 1200x800 resolution. Works great. I didn't buy it for gaming, though I do some gaming on it, I didn't buy it for watching videos, though I probably will sometimes. I bought it for viewing comic books. Which is does very decently.

    Will I buy apps? A few, I plan on purchasing, like ComicRack, and maybe an emulator or 2.

    This will hold me over till they start making 12"+ tablets with higher resolutions. (yes, I know you can get 1080p tablets at 9" but seriously, I want more screen, not higher resolution in a smaller space.)
     

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  14. Why do we listen to Gartner? by dottrap · · Score: 3, Informative

    Gartner has a terrible track record. If you see any article citing Gartner statistics or predictions, you are best served by ignoring and moving along.

    http://www.zdnet.com/why-does-...
    http://seekingalpha.com/instab...

  15. It isn't. by dottrap · · Score: 2

    From Wikipedia:
    "OHA [Open Handset Alliance] members are contractually forbidden from producing devices that are based off incompatible forks of Android."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O...

    This has a chilling effect on hiring manufacturers to build your actual device when most of them are already tied to OHA.

    This is a perverse definition of "open".

    1. Re:It isn't. by Sable+Drakon · · Score: 2

      I'm not one of those people. There are more reasons than spyware to reflash to CM.. Like running TouchWiz. My personal case is owning a GS3, I reflashed to CM and installed GApps because I prefer Google's Services and the ease of use that an AOSP-based ROM provides.

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  16. Gartner can't add by david.emery · · Score: 5, Informative

    From http://appleinsider.com/articl...
    "The most glaring inconsistency is a disconnect between Gartner's 70.4 million iPad sales and Apple's self-reported 74 million unit sales for 2013. From the first quarter — Apple's second fiscal quarter — to the fourth, the company reported iPad sales of 19.5 million, 14.6 million, 14.1 million and 26 million, respectively. The total: 74.2 million iPads sold during 2013. "

    Note these numbers are reported by Apple on SEC filings, not on press releases.

  17. Re:Sales figures by Old97 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And a couple of other suspicious things here. 1) Shipped doesn't mean sold as you say, but it can include give aways like when you buy a Samsung TV and get one of their pads for free. Yeah, if you gave me a Samsung tablet I'd take it. Then I'd give it to a poor relative or kid down the street. Not worth anything to me. Also, the "Other" category out ships all the other Android OEMs including the top 3 Android OEM's combined. Sorry, but its pretty arbitrary to put a crappy knock off for the 3rd world market with a state of the art iPad or equivalent. Finally, Gartner predicted that the iPhone would be a flop in 2007 and again in 2008. Their fantasies about MS products in the mobile market are pretty imaginative too.

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  18. only if you're a lazy git by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Informative

    you can add Debian and its ports to Android

    quit your whining, you pansy

  19. Re:Trollbait article by Wild_dog! · · Score: 3, Informative

    Our iPad gets probably 30 hours use a week by all of our family. It seems to be useful to each member of the family for different purposes.
    Perhaps it is missing key features, but I don't really think we notice because we each have our own way of using it.
    And when we need real computing power we just jump on the desktop machine.

    We haven't really regretted having an iPad for any reason.

  20. Re:Trollbait article by tlambert · · Score: 2

    How do you type on an ipad in bed?

    Bluetooth keyboard or type on the screen, but the BT keyboard from Apple is a keyboard in a laser cut aluminum case, so it's not nearly as bendy as the surface keyboard.

  21. But where are all the Androids? by pubwvj · · Score: 2, Funny

    Despite this claim to large number shipped I just am not seeing Android tablets out in the hands of users. I've seen a couple (count them, two) Kindles in the real world.

    Meanwhile I've seen many hundreds of Apple's iPad's and thousands of iPhones, iPodTouches, etc.

    Something's not right with the statistics given in the article. It just doesn't match the real world. So is this a Shipped vs Sales confusion?

    Or maybe the Androids are being hidden away in 'smart' devices like toasters and washing machines. That would certainly inflate the Android numbers.

    Well, it doesn't really matter. Our family has six iPodTouches, an iPad and five MacBooks. How many Androids are being claimed to be sold is completely irrelevant. What matters is we can do the things we want to do from content creation to communications to consumption with the devices we have.

    1. Re:But where are all the Androids? by RJFerret · · Score: 2

      The circle you associate in perhaps? I know one person with an ipad, from back when tablets were new novelties and a family member purchased it for her (she's disabled, easier to use than sit at a computer, although ridiculously heavy compared to other tablets). Everyone else I know with a device has an Android. I haven't counted since, who cares? All the families have them for their kids. Plenty of individuals too. I get handed plenty of tablets to see pics or stuff through the course of living.

      Want to see a lot of Kindles? Take a flight. People leave them at home unless they expect to spend a lot of time reading. The airports are loaded with them, and tablets for the illiterate move watchers.

      Anecdotes.

      Data.

      Case in point.

    2. Re:But where are all the Androids? by Solandri · · Score: 3, Funny

      Despite this claim to large number shipped I just am not seeing Android tablets out in the hands of users. I've seen a couple (count them, two) Kindles in the real world.

      Meanwhile I've seen many hundreds of Apple's iPad's and thousands of iPhones, iPodTouches, etc.

      Something's not right with the statistics given in the article. It just doesn't match the real world. So is this a Shipped vs Sales confusion?

      These are annual sales figures. That is, they're not the number of tablets in use, they're the first derivative of the number of tablets in use. People don't buy a new tablet every year - they keep it around for a few years. So the tablets you'll see in use are a weighted culmination of 2011, 2012, and 2013 sales, which if I remember were about 85% iPad, 60% iPad, and now 36% iPad

      Despite what the Apple apologists have posted above, the important thing is the trend. And it's pretty clear that the trend is down for Apple (in market share - growth in the market means their unit sales are still increasing, just nowhere near as quickly as Android's unit sales are). They will need to come out with better products with better features (or lower prices) and more options (the iPad Mini was a good step) if they want to regain the market lead or even hang on to their current market share. Of course Apple being Apple, they might not care about that. They may be content having just 5% of the market if it's a very lucrative 5%.

      And about 2/3rds of phones I see in use are Android, about 2/3rds of the tablets are iPads, and the last time I saw an iPod Touch was in a drawer gathering dust.

    3. Re:But where are all the Androids? by Wild_dog! · · Score: 3, Funny

      I see lots of tablets at elementary schools.
      Seems like all the kids have them now since they got them as stocking stuffers.
      My kids keep asking why they can't get tablets and take them to school.
      Seems they are the only ones without devices at recess.
      hahahaha

  22. Re:Slightly biased... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 5, Informative

    My two year old iPod Touch is considered obsolete by Apple. I paid full retail for it and it can't run the new iOS. It was one of my biggest mistake purchases recently.

  23. Re:Trollbait article by plover · · Score: 2

    Despite the Metro UI, I like my Surface Pro a lot more than my iPad, and I use it constantly. It doesn't suffer from the walled garden of iOS, and I have a ton of programs installed. Very few Metro apps from the app store, however - I mostly have desktop and command line stuff from sourceforge (plus the obligatory Office suite.) The Microsoft app store is lacking, so I rarely think of it as an iPad type tablet. Instead, I think of it as a very portable laptop. And with the i5 and the SSD, performance hasn't been a problem.

    Even though I lug them both around in my backpack, and the Surface is twice as heavy as the iPad, I use the iPad only about once a week these days, and that's only because of some iOS-only apps I need for work. Otherwise, the Surface is my go-to portable platform.

    Plus, ever since iOS 7 came out, both platforms are now essentially equally ugly. iOS 7's UI changes are about the best gift Apple could have given Microsoft.

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  24. Re:So what? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Samsung dominates Android tablet sales. ASUS, Amazon, and Lenovo are the next 3 leading brands of Android tablets (combined they are about half the Android tablet space - meaning on-par with Apple in total tablet sales). None of them sell low-end/cheap tablets. It's not price that is driving people to Android tablets - it is their familiarity with Android via their cell phones. Android dominates cell phones; it is only natural that people used to Android on their phone would look to use the same platform for their tablet.

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  25. Re:So what? by AuMatar · · Score: 2

    Samsung Galaxy Note Pro. Already on sale, 12 inch tablet with 2600x1500? resolution. Not sure on the exact number for the other dimension, but its available now.

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  26. Re:Slightly biased... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

    Considering the iPod Touch limitations, why would you need iOS7 anyway?

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  27. Re:Slightly biased... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

    I am on Slashdot, where there are people like me, who have hardware older than the average age of people who frequent the site. We're nerds here. People who leap at glee with new product releases aren't nerds, they're misguided wannas. Yeah, that blow-dried teen in a TV show you watch religiously isn't a nerd either.