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How Ireland Got Apple's $9 Billion Australian Profit
elphie007 writes "An investigation by The Australian Financial Review has discovered how from 2002 to 2013, Apple has shifted approximately $AU8.9 billion of revenue generated in Australia to Ireland, via Singapore. The article states that last year alone, Apple Australia paid only $AU88.5 million in tax, or 0.044% of estimated potential tax liabilities. What's more, the Australian Tax Office has agreed that this arrangement is acceptable under Australian law."
Apple probably used Apple Maps to locate the tax office.
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Remember moral != Legal, so just because they were able to cheat, doesn't mean they should. Also, they were under no legal or moral obligation to play silly buggers in order to cheat the Austrailians out of tax.
and yes it's cheating because they get to use all of the resources that Aus provides to allow business to make money the pay for almost none of it. That makes them little more than freeloading scum.
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Ireland uses territorial taxation, and hence does not levy taxes on income booked at subsidiaries of Irish companies that are outside of the state. In the late 1980s, Apple Inc. was among the pioneers in creating this tax structure.
I guess not. They just siphon all the profits using Hollywood accounting over imaginary property to Ireland and stash them in Bermuda.
I'm not sure that makes any sense. The article is about how this was a perfectly legitimate tax strategy. And if the world has their eye, that means Apple/Google/etc are watching everything... not the other way around.
No, no more than they have a duty to do anything else immoral ( like slave labor in China or dumping waste in some poor country with few environmental regulations ) to boost profits. Their duty to shareholders comes after acting ethically.
And it is unethical. If only those wealthy enough to set up shell corporations and make imaginary tax evasion schemes can participate in evading taxes, but those that can't are forced in the burden of taxation, despite the expectation of the law to be that every company or entity be taxed.
If you accept that there is a duty for all to be subject to the same tax law, which I think we all do (regardless your perspective of tax evasion), then abusing a loophole to keep from paying taxes violates Kant's FUL, and is therefore also logically unethical if you follow Kantian ethics. For Utilitarians, I am sure you could make the argument that the tax evaded dollars serve the evaders far less than the good taxation does for Australia, but I don't follow that regime.
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Be prepared to be ashamed for things you do buy then. Apple tends to get singled out for some reason, but the things it gets criticized for are the norm, any transnational that is not doing them is just hurting itself and becoming less competitive. This is something that can only be fixed if the rules change in a way that effect all the companies, not something that public shaming of individual ones can help.
Apple - nor any corporation - is not a charity. It's not their job to pay more taxes than they legally have to. Their job is specifically the opposite - generate as much value for shareholders as they can.
Any company that pays more than they have to by law should be questioned, or the shareholders should revolt. Actually... I can't think of any example of one that does, intentionally at least.
So - the issue is NOT with Apple - TFS even says that the Australian tax office agrees this is all above board - but the issue is with their tax system. It's structured to allow that, intentionally or not. There are all kinds of tax incentives in the world, and they're all there to encourage the right mix of business development and growth that the region needs. Essentially, tax is used as an incentive to offset the disadvantages that would otherwise naturally be there (labor cost, non-ideal locations, skill levels, etc.).
Don't be mad at Apple... EVERY company does this. Haters be hat'n, I guess. :)
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No the problem is the wealthy are constantly arguing visibly and publicly that the poor are stealing from them, and that they should be allowed to opt out of supporting anyone. For things like food and medicine. Because it the super-wealthy are just so upset at looking at that big tax number on paper (they are not affected in any literal fashion whatsoever - if they were, they'd be middle class...who also are frequently on the list of "people who should pay more" from the super-wealthy).
Yes, I agree, things do have to change.
BUT people will NOT take notice until you DO start shaming individual companies.
That's how change happens.
Just throwing up your hands and saying, "Oh well, it's the norm. It's got to change." Means nothing to people; which means you are not going to get the political class to do something about it. They'll just keep things the way they are because people won't notice.
People have to get outraged. They have to see INDIVIDUAL companies and INDIVIDUALS who don't pay taxes because of BS like this: see the Forbes 400 for many of the folks who legally dodge taxes because they made up the rules.
So we NEED to shame Apple, Google, GE, HP, IBM, and every other golbal mega corp that shifts profits around the World to avoid taxes. We need people like Warren Buffet to say, "Hey look, my secretary has a higher effective tax rate than I do."
And this bullshit of "well if Buffet doesn't like it, then he can pay more on his own!" doesn't cut it because there are HUNDREDS of other billionaires and centi-millionaires who are getting away it.
We NEED 1950s income taxes again - adjusted for inflation, of course.
Of course you're right. This is one of the reasons I drum the "all taxes are regressive". The rich can and will avoid as much tax liability, often quite legally (like this), while the poor and middle class cannot, because they do not have the resources. If you could spend 100 to save 1000 in taxes, wouldn't you?
There is a fix for this, a transfer tax, rather than an income tax. Tax money leaving your country. The easiest avoidance of these taxes is to keep the money in country, helping the country's economy. If money NEEDS to leave, then it provides an incentive to bring jobs home and use the resources of your own country.
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