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Ask Slashdot: How Do I Change Tech Careers At 30?

First time accepted submitter possiblybored writes "I'm 30, and I am a technology teacher and the school's technology coordinator. I like my job, but I have been having thoughts about switching careers and focusing more on technology in the private sector. I like Microsoft products and would head in that direction, probably. Is it too late for me to think about this? What is the best way to get started on this path? I'm not so much interested in programming (though I'd like to learn a language some day) as much as I am intrigued by topics like setting up e-mail servers, reading about cloud stuff like Office 365, and looking at information on collaborative technology. I'm a good teacher and excel at explaining things as well. Any advice the community could offer would be greatly appreciated!"

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  1. Troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Submission is very clearly a troll. Please don't post this kind of crap.

    1. Re:Troll by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Somewhere in Oklahoma there is a school district that needs to review its hiring practices.

      I have been having thoughts about switching careers and focusing more on technology in the private sector.

      I'm wondering if those thoughts were prompted by others.

      I've changed directions in the generic "IT" field a few times, and it all boiled down to "What do I actually WANT to be doing? What am I doing in my spare time in IT that is distracting me from my day job?" I then enter that field, already having experience and connections in the sub-field that I want to be working in.

      So for him, I think the question is, "What am I enjoying teaching right now? What do I dig into in more detail at home after I've done my prep work? What do I spend extra time helping students with?" In those areas, start hanging out on online forums and discussing your passion areas with likeminded techies. Find out about what's happening there in the private sector.

      Leverage what you know and what you like; if you don't like what you're doing (that doesn't seem to be the case), then retrain yourself. This is important: in IT, you need to be constantly learning new things; taking courses and getting credentials comes at the end, after you've got some experience under your belt -- the creds are to prove you know what you're doing, not to train you how to do it.

      Since you don't have any programming languages, you obviously haven't got a CompSci degree, so you're looking at "lower" IT work (services, not design). This means that you'll likely be working for lower wages, and need a lot of on-the-job training.

      So, start at helpdesk, find out what you like and don't, and work your way up inside a company once you've got the experience under your belt. As you have teacher training, working with customers and explaining things in simple terms shouldn't be difficult -- working from a script may bore you to death however.

    2. Re:Troll by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He's 30 and he doesn't know a single programming language. No scripting, no Javascript...

      He is where he belongs.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    3. Re:Troll by possiblybored · · Score: 5, Informative

      Good afternoon, Though I don't want to get into the specifics of my job, I do not teach computer science. I am also not employed in Oklahoma, for the record. :-) I'm more than willing to spend my off time learning skills, and was merely trying to find out what the best entry point would be. I enjoy writing and would be interested in technical writing. Thanks for sharing.

    4. Re:Troll by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I've changed directions in the generic "IT" field a few times, and it all boiled down to "What do I actually WANT to be doing?

      Hey, it's never too late really, if you are quick to pick up things, and smart enough. It doesn't have to be confined to only ONE field.

      I'm over the mid 40's, and I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up.

      My degree was in chemistry, never worked in that field, almost did medical school, shy of that I fell in to medical research, started learning databases for that way back in the stone age, did some grad school in IT to try to bring my gpa up (I had a great party life in college)...from there fell into GUI design with a company that was primarily mainframes, but moving interfaces to windows, fell into learning Oracle, and did some DBA work at places, I've designed database driven web apps, played with a few languages, but never really mastering any one. I've worked in restaurants, been a head chef, sold retail, and frankly, I'm looking maybe at some point to see what I can do in the arts maybe. I dunno yet.

      I have mostly been a jack of all trades but likely master of none. However, doing that, learning enough to get through anything (fake it till you make it), having some people skills, I've just gone in different directions where the wind took me and my interests.

      I think Aerosmith said it best "Life's a journey, not a destination".

      I still don't know what I wanna be when I grow up...it can be a lifestyle and philosophy that you go with. I keeps life from being boring, and yes, you can make a VERY comfortable living doing it if you're smart, and do what you set your mind to and don't let things get in the way.

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  2. Follow your fascination by MtnDeusExMachina · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whatever you love doing, do more of it. Then just be sensitive, and maybe a little aggressive, about pursuing leads that naturally arise from your avocation.

    1. Re:Follow your fascination by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wow, mod parent up.

      The only other advice I have to give, is check out the free tools that surround the areas you are interested in. Expanding closed source software is still a money pit, and perhaps always will be.

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    2. Re:Follow your fascination by Hentai · · Score: 3, Informative

      Whatever you love doing, do more of it. Then just be sensitive, and maybe a little aggressive, about pursuing leads that naturally arise from your avocation

      But first, read this article: http://www.overcomingbias.com/2013/12/rejection-via-advice.html

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  3. Apply to jobs by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're talking about breaking into the IT industry, not politics.

    Start applying for help desk jobs. Yes, it really is that simple.

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    1. Re:Apply to jobs by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm 31 and seriously looking into getting out of software development.

      It was cool when I was 14. It was still doable when I was 23. Now it's soul-crushing.

      I wish I was a farmer or a carpenter.

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    2. Re:Apply to jobs by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm already "principal software developer" (team lead?); I really, really, really have no interested in moving over to management. I'm sure I could love being a developer if there were any jobs coding assembly, C, hell even perl. It's 2014 though. The era of coding is virtually gone. All we do now is beat various frameworks into submission. The influx of buzzwords over the last decade or so has really made it unbearable, adding insult to injury. Fuck Spring, fuck agile, and fuck this whole industry.

      Ironically, I used to do menial electrical work after high school. At the time, I thought it was horrible. The grass is always greener...

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    3. Re:Apply to jobs by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I can't handle 40 hours of sedation every week for the rest of my life. I chose to work in the defense industry specifically because I thought it would afford me opportunities to work on exciting high-tech shit. That bubble's been burst for some time now.

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    4. Re:Apply to jobs by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sounds like a new Ask Slashdot is brewing:

      How Do I Escape My Tech Career At 30?
      I'm 30 and hate computers with a passion. I used to love them, but then money got involved, and now I want nothing more than to punch through the screen of any laptop I see. Is it too late for me to avoid suicide? Has anyone in the community managed to escape the bondage of the keyboard and trackpad and find a fulfilling career that enables them to support themselves and their family without daily stifling back tears of rage provoked by incompetent management?

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    5. Re:Apply to jobs by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 4, Informative

      I ran for Congress two years ago at age 29. I won the Democratic primary for my district and ran on a technocratic platform. I'd advise anybody with an IQ over 100 to stay the hell away from politics. It is soul-crushing, the people you meet are loathesome, and since the wide-spread adoption of gerrymandering most elections are foregone conclusions anyway. I lost the election with 40% of the vote, went back to being a full-time server admin and couldn't be happier.

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    6. Re:Apply to jobs by Mark+of+the+North · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Quit the soul-crushing job as soon as you are able. If you use phrases like soul-crushing to describe what you do for 40+ hours of work, you need a change.

      I'm 40 and struggling with the aftermath of a similar situation. My last job as director of tech for a school division came to an end when a new superintendent came in with strong opinions about what technology in a school should be (Apple TVs and Ipads) but didn't have a clue what it took to support those technologies (like a secure network) or an understanding of the regulations we worked under. Being thrown under the bus was pretty painful. Can't say that I have fully recovered, physically or emotionally.

      One thing is for sure, I never want to be stuck in a job where my supervisor is an opinionated moron again. Not unless the job has a short time-frame. This pretty much rules out working directly for government. Even if you are lucky to get in with a good group, it can change in a hurry.

      Now, I'm doing tech consulting, raising sheep, building a green home, and being a dad again. Two months in and I can't see myself ever going back.

  4. Recommended Career change by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If I was in your situation given your experience and passion, I would focus more on private home and SMB side of things. Consulting, sales, and perhaps some end-user support. I doubt system and network infrastructure administration is your thing. Perhaps later on, but now.

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  5. Too late at 30!?!? by mcrbids · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bwha ha ha ha ha!!!

    Just how old do you think you *are*, sonny boy? 30 is just barely dry behind the ears! Truth is that there is lots of room for anybody in the tech field who is *competent*. So be competent!

    It does help to be somewhat charismatic and hygienic.

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  6. Microsoft is on decline by Framboise · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Think about the fate of dinosaurs that were replaced by smaller more agile mammals when difficult times came...

  7. you describe a "teacher" by mexsudo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your goal as described would indicate you want to be a teacher!

  8. Training and/or Documentation by ryen · · Score: 4, Informative

    With your limited skillset without programming or intermediate sysadmin, but given your background in teaching and familiarity with concepts i'd say you'd be a good fit for training and/or documentation within a tech company. Training can include on-boarding new hires and getting them familiar with internal systems, or even training customers on using the software. I've worked with many people in these roles at companies i've been with. Documentation also might be a good route: writing manuals, online specs, and online training stuff. Theres lots of people doing this at the larger software shops.

  9. Re:Ok by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not bitter in the least, are you?

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  10. Those who can do, those who can't teach. by santax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    After reading your question this one came to my mind. Those who can do, those who can't teach. But it does makes me wonder what you are teaching these kids if you have to ask us how to get a job in the tech-world. I hope your pupils won't have to ask that same question.

  11. Career advice from Yoda by steveha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If once you start down the Microsoft path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will...

    Seriously, Microsoft is in decline, and already has a bunch of people trained up in it. You should consider learning mobile development for Android, iOS, or both. If you want to learn server-side stuff I would learn the open stack: Linux, MySQL and/or Postgres, maybe Hadoop.

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  12. Re:Ok by The+Cat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I haven't had a boss for 15 years and I'm more successful now than I ever was in a corporate job.

    I also can't be fired. Know why? Because firing me requires my approval.

    I'm also intelligent enough to see reality even in the face of being heckled by those who don't know any better.

    You keep punching that clock, Jim.

  13. Mr Conservative Talking by sdinfoserv · · Score: 3, Informative

    I hate to be the Curmudgeon..however with a school you are guaranteed a pension. In the private sector, no matter how much you make, you will never make up the difference. At some point, you'll get tired of bits & bytes and just want to play with grand kids or go fishing. Stay with the school, and you'll be doing that by the time your 55. Leave for the private sector and 55 becomes a hard to reach retirement age.

  14. It is never "too late" by Peristaltic · · Score: 3, Informative

    Is it too late for me to think about this?

    It is never too late. I have known people that have jumped into unrelated careers, successfully, at 35, 40, 52, and 65.

    How much effort are you willing to put forth? Are you willing to temporarily forgo some of the pleasures in your life to which you've become accustomed?

    Are you willing to immerse yourself in the new career, both at work and after hours? Ask yourself and answer truthfully: do you truly want to make a change, or are you just thinking... "wouldn't it be nice if"? The answer may be painful, and sometimes you won't know until you're there- Are you willing to take that risk?

    Are you willing to risk the possibility of having to start at a lower level on the pay scale in your new field? I have a cousin that graduated from the Air Force Academy, flew F-15's for almost 10 years, and after accepting an engineering job at a defense contractor, quickly realized that he couldn't stand that type of job. With a wife and 3 daughters to support, he left to start a career at an airline.... at the time (mid-80's), he had to start as a flight engineer, at about 20k / year. With his love of flight focusing his resolve, and with the support of his wife (she took a second job), he persevered in a boring, low-paying job, staring at a panel of guages in a jet... but he stuck to it, and over a number of years ended up as a 747 long-haul pilot for Northwest, making just under 200k / year.

    You must decide if you're ready to commit, with all that that implies. If you feel drawn to whatever it is you're thinking of doing, and you're ready to commit, there are few legitimate reasons to hold back- I would say that if you have no legs and desire to win a ballroom dancing championship, you may have a legitimate reason not to compete, but you could still find a way to excel, in some role, in this activity if you truly had the desire.

  15. Re:Ok by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So you talk about "the only option in 2014 America", but you haven't tried any other options in this century.

    You complain about employers who "maximize your hardship", yet by being self-employed, if you screw up, you get absolutely every bit of hardship possible.

    You put down those who "don't know any better" and "ignore [your] advice", to the point of stating as a foregone fact that they will be fired, and you say that your opinion is "reality".

    Yeah, I'd fire you, too.

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    You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
  16. Re:System Administration by Spazmania · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sounds to me like you're looking in the wrong places.

    I live in the Washington DC area where virtually every fast food cashier is hispanic and most speak around 10 words of English. During a McDonalds lunch some time ago, I happened to overhear a job interview. The kid was clearly unmotivated but his allowance wasn't cutting it. Towards the end, the manager ask to see paperwork with his social security number or a birth certificate or whatever, the documents on the government list for proof of citizenship. The kid didn't have any. The manager asked what his social security number was. The kid didn't know. So the manager told him to go get those things from his parents and come back.

    When the kid left, the manager called over one of the assistant managers and began filling him in on the interview. He explained: "if the kid comes back, we'll probably hire him because he can speak English."

    You wanna compete with the day laborers hanging out by the highway, of course you're going to lose. The day bosses in the pickup trucks aren't looking for white guys. Apply to a company that isn't in the 10% of the bottom feeders.

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  17. The original quote by ClickOnThis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Those who know, do. Those who understand, teach.
    - Aristotle

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  18. Re:Ok by HornWumpus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Rule of 3s. If you've had 3 bosses (or clients or girlfriends etc) with the same or very similar problems, the problem is yours.

    Work for yourself is good advice, for someone with a reasonably complete skill set. If you don't, you need to learn from someone.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  19. Serious answer by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A lot of people are assuming this is a troll or some sort of joke. That says a lot about how helpful people are! It sounds like you have familiarity with a number of software products, most likely all Microsoft. To strengthen that, you could take some courses at a community college. You could also volunteer some of your services for your local church or other nonprofit to build a resume.

    However, you might want to consider that instead of IT support, in the private sector, going the training route. With your teaching background, many corporations would hire you. In addition, with your current computer background, they could hire you to teach software classes to their employees. Even if you are wanting to get out of teaching and into support, such a path would get your foot in the door and allow you to establish connections, gain experience and pick up additional skills before making the switch.

  20. Uh oh... by Shoten · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I like Microsoft products and would head in that direction, probably.

    There goes your odds of getting much in the way of help from this crowd...

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