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Turing's Theory of Chemical Morphogenesis Validated 60 Years After His Death

cold fjord writes "Phys.org reports, "Alan Turing's accomplishments in computer science are well known, but lesser known is his impact on biology and chemistry. In his only paper on biology (PDF), Turing proposed a theory of morphogenesis, or how identical copies of a single cell differentiate, for example, into an organism with arms and legs, a head and tail. Now, 60 years after Turing's death, researchers from Brandeis University and the University of Pittsburgh have provided the first experimental evidence that validates Turing's theory in cell-like structures. The team published their findings in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on Monday, March 10.""

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  1. Please stop linking paywalled papers. by xophos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Science should be readable by anyone.
    Don't advertise the profiteers.

    1. Re:Please stop linking paywalled papers. by cduffy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Someone's got to pay to fund the research.

      ...but that someone isn't generally the publishers running the paywalls, so how is that relevant?

    2. Re:Please stop linking paywalled papers. by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree that the papers should be open, but I disagree that not linking to the paywalled site is a good answer. Publishers of scientific journals don't get much money by individuals paying for papers. They get their money from universities and research institutions paying the toll. The paywall for individuals is just to keep forcing the universities paying. What you said is true for paywalls on general periodicals like wall street journal or new york times (if either still does that), since people actually might buy access to those articles. Not PNAS.

      Furthermore, the primary source is important obviously. Most of the time with slashdot articles, you get a link to some three paragraph blurb in science daily or Time, and the actual paper is not linked in that article. Meanwhile, there are questions here that can only be answered by details which are in the actual paper but aren't in the blurby news story. These questions could be answered by people who do have access, but without a link to the paywalled paper, such people are less likely to bother tracking it down.

      That criticism doesn't go for phys.org: they have the link to the actual paper at the bottom. Good on them.

      Again, publicly funded research should be open access, I'm not saying paywalls are good or justified.

    3. Re:Please stop linking paywalled papers. by cduffy · · Score: 5, Informative

      publishers pay the people who fronted money for the study

      If only they did.

      Funds paid to scientific publishers pay for editing, not for the original studies. Moreover, peer review -- the most important part of the process -- is almost universally done for free by other scientists in the field; the publishers are just mediators in that process, adding minimal value.

  2. Re:On Turing by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is there nothing he couldn't do?

    Women.

    (I kid, I kid.)

  3. Details? by wisnoskij · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is this a huge find, will this make these scientists big names? Or was the reason it took so long to validate because no one really cared?

    Was this expected, has everyone assumed he was right for a long time, or was their a lot of controversy?

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  4. I think it's time by invictusvoyd · · Score: 4, Funny

    We should give him the Turing award .

  5. Re:On Turing by TheCarp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No not arsenic, cyanide:

    On 8 June 1954, Turing's cleaner found him dead. He had died the previous day. A post-mortem examination established that the cause of death was cyanide poisoning. When his body was discovered, an apple lay half-eaten beside his bed, and although the apple was not tested for cyanide
    (wikipedia)

    Although.... that isn't the whole story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...

    There is some speculation that he may have inhaled cyanide accidentlly, (which would be proposterous unless he had say... was doing gold electroplating in his house....oh which he was. He also apparently was known to eat an apple before bed nightly.

    Now perhaps it was accidental, perhaps the whole gold plating thing was just to justify having cyanide around? Nobody is ever going to know.... but the poisioned apple makes for a nice story and adds a bit more mystery to the man than accidental inhalation of chemicals while trying to gold plate his silverware.

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  6. Chemistry vs Molecular Biology by wombatmobile · · Score: 5, Informative

    Turing's theory was formulated in an era when physics and chemistry were the foundation components of biology. The problem he was trying to solve is: How is biological complexity achieved in terms of fundamental chemistry and physics? At the time, chemistry could explain how two poisonous chemicals, sodium and chlorine, could combine to produce a substance as benign as common table sale (NaCl). But nothing could explain how a single cell could develop into something as complex as a fish, or a mouse, or a human being.

    In 1953, Crick and Watson published a paper in Nature that revealed the chemical structure of DNA. The discovery was a revolution in science because it changed biology from an amalgam of physics and chemistry into an information science. In DNA and RNA, a whole vocabulary of computing was encoded. Suddenly, the complexity of biological processes such as embryogenesis, heredity, and cancer could be understood in programmatic terms through the molecular language of DNA.

    Turing's theory of chemical morphogenesis doesn't mention DNA. As such, it is too simple to explain morphogenesis per se. Rather, his concept of intercellular reaction-diffusion may be applied to cell biology inter alia, but it isn't the big picture. Crick and Watson worked that out, thanks in no small part to Rosalind Franklin and Maurice Wilkins.

    1. Re:Chemistry vs Molecular Biology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Then again what the DNA and RNA actually perform is to encode chemicals which can trigger the reactions that Turing was describing in his paper. I agree with you that the discovery of this process was revolutionary (even more so once large scale decoding of DNA sequences started to happen), but ultimately it still is a chemical process which happens inside of cells.

      Various chemical receptors can also trigger certain DNA sequences to be enabled or suppressed to in turn create other organic molecules as encoded in that DNA, hence the relevance.

      Of course some people suggest that Maxwell basically discovered the Theory of Relativity with his equations of electrodynamics. If not necessarily discovering that theory, then certainly supported the theoretical background that Einstein later built upon. I think in this case Turing deserves a similar accolade for providing some early theoretical work that was built upon by later researchers... just as all good science tends to do anyway. Besides, it is otherwise just another citation of Turing's paper, which is still a good thing in terms of showing Turing actually did know what he was talking about.

  7. Re: Alan Turing was Gay by Muros · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...and a pedophile, which is why he got prosecuted in the first place.

    That is untrue. The prosecution was for "gross indecency" with a 19 year old man, who was also prosecuted.