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Google Sued Over Children's In-App Android Purchases

jfruh writes "Android apps sold through the Google Play app store require the user to enter their username and password before making an in-app purchase — but once they've done that, they can continue to do so for half an hour without re-authenticating. Now a lawsuit is claiming this loophole allows children to run up in-app purchases on their parents' credit cards, 'causing Google to pocket millions of dollars.'"

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  1. Just call the credit card company and tell them by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just call the credit card company and tell them that you didn't authorise these payments, then tell google you've done that. This puts the ball in google's court - the payment goes into dispute and they need to decide whether to claim that you did authorise the purchase or give you a refund. My money would be on the latter.

    1. Re:Just call the credit card company and tell them by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just call the credit card company and tell them that you didn't authorise these payments, then tell google you've done that. This puts the ball in google's court - the payment goes into dispute and they need to decide whether to claim that you did authorise the purchase or give you a refund. My money would be on the latter.

      Doing this you would be committing fraud against the credit card company and get you in trouble. You did authorise these payments because you logged in your child with proper credentials to shop using your card. That you didn't understand the consequences isn't good enough enough defence. Though I would love to be able to reverse the charges when my wife starts shopping with my logged in credit card enabled account.

      It would not be fraud - you authorised one payment then google took the rest without authorisation. I have done this previously with unauthorised follow-up payments and it really goes smoothly, it goes into dispute - the company has a chance to appeal - decides not to - terminates service and refund stands

  2. Wait a minute... by narcc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This sounds awfully familiar... Didn't Apple have this exact same problem?

    Thanks, TFA:

    The case against Google is similar to one brought by the U.S. Federal Trade Commission against Apple over children's in-app purchases. That case was settled in January and Apple agreed to pay at least US$32.5 million to customers.

    Now we need to ask why Google didn't take action to prevent this sort of thing.

  3. Re:Please.... by Travis+Mansbridge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Hey mom/dad, enter your password"

    A: "Sure"
    B: "Why?"

    Which sounds more responsible?

  4. Re:Please.... by richy+freeway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The point is that after they have entered their password, the child has 30 minutes of unfettered purchasing power and there is NO warning of this at all.

  5. Re:Please.... by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, Google designed a system that would be a compromise between security and usability since some people would obviously go bat shit if they had to enter their password every time.

    That a parent gave this to their child and did not properly supervise them is the parents fault.

    Although it would indeed be nice if the parents could indeed have a better monitoring service for kids phones.

  6. Re:Next we should sue the US treasury for issuing by Barefoot+Monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Monetary bills are already child-proof in this regard. If I give a child $1 this doesn't cause any other money I may have to spontaneously teleport into the child's possession every time the child approaches a toy or sweet within the next 30 minutes. If the child wants more of my money then he/she will need to ask me again.

  7. Re:Please.... by Cenan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Kids are not supposed to know the full range of consequences of their actions, that is why we call them children and treat them in a certain way.

    First of all, the in-app purchasing is specifically designed to not warn you when a purchase is made, and to make the purchases as subtle as possible. Even if that were not the case, you'd have to buy the app or whatever and wait 30 minutes before handing the device back to your child to be safe, yet there is currently no indication that the timer is even running or when it expires - not one that is easily accessible. And the mere fact that Google expects you to sit around with your device for 30 minutes, waiting for a timer to expire is unreasonable in the extreme.

    This is absolutely a tech issue, as well as an ethics issue. Google likes the easy money, and their responses to parents who have complained about it have been less than stellar. Google is in a position to both build and destroy trust in consumer computing, on behalf of not only themselves, but everyone who develops for their devices and similar devices. The position Google has taken on this issue is the money-grab-and-run short term approach, and they've been pointing at the app developers for the fix. This is unreasonable, and doesn't actually fix the broken eco-system that is Android apps. The good guys will continue to be the good guys and you're giving a free pass to the rotten apples. Couple this with the fact that it is almost impossible to tell good from bad on Android until you get burned, and you have a major issue going forward, and Google is well on its way to forcing legislation on this issue. Legislation that I bet Google is going to piss and moan over when it passes, even though they, and fuckwits like them, were the ones to cause it.

    Short story even shorter: fix the fucking issue and get on with it already. The fix is so simple it would be hilarious if it wasn't such a fucking money-grab from a supposedly not evil corporation. Make purchasing passwords one time only, or allow for restrictions on where and when the purchasing can be made.

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  8. Re:Please.... by exploder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the real problem is that parents want to use a phone or tablet as a pacifier, so they don't have to parent the tykes.

    Ah yes, the rallying call of the childless. I'm sure that if you ever have kids, you'll have the means and inclination to devote N hours of your own time every day simply to keeping them entertained.

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  9. Re:Please.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's almost like Apple and Google were both in the wrong, and Apple corrected it.

    Oh wait, it's exactly like that.