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NSA Hacked Huawei, Stole Source Code

Charliemopps (1157495) writes "New documents from Snowden indicate that the NSA hacked into and stole documents, including source code, from the Chinese networking firm Huawei. Ironically, this is the same firm that the U.S. government has argued in the past was a threat due to China's possible use of the same sort of attacks."

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  1. NSA validated in their concerns? by saps1e · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So if they have access to the source code, does this mean that the NSA is speaking authoritatively when they say Huawei's routers do have backdoors for the Chinese govt?

  2. Retaliation is fair game by hessian · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The Chinese have been hacking American military stuff since the 1980s.

    Not only that, they were the source of the vast majority of the weapons used against us in the Vietnam war, and fought directly against us in Korea.

    They're bad guys.

  3. Re:No irony by Jmc23 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    No, that's how the US government found out huawei was too hard to hack so they tried to discredit them publicly to get companies to buy equipment to which they had easy access to.

    You know, just like trying to discredit PGP.

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  4. Re:No irony by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and the rest of the world is learning how untrustworthy the USA is.

    Which country of any consequence is trustworthy? Russia? China? In the EU, Great Britain, France, Spain, Germany, etc. don't exactly have spotless histories. Anyone in South or Central America?

    Places like Denmark, Iceland and New Zealand seem to be pretty trustworthy to me. But for some reason this just doesn't scale very well. From what I can see, and I very well may be wrong, there is some kind of tipping point when a country's population crosses over the 10-20 million mark. Obviously there are exceptions. Perhaps government simply gets too large to manage at that point and it is no longer possible to maintain oversight on everything.

  5. Re:Personal Liberty! by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 2, Interesting

    To reiterate: Snowden is not releasing anything. He took what he got from the NSA internal networks, and handed that over. The way it gets released is subject only to the whim of the journalists who have the dump now. I would imagine that NSA significantly more information about how they spy on everyone, including China, than they have on how China is spying on them. For the latter, we'd need a Chinese Snowden equivalent.

    By the way, why are you guys still on this? Every time one of you NSA assholes opens your mouth, you only make it worse for yourself. Not that there is much worse to go - aside from all the trodding on the Constitution, the entire Snowden affair has also shown just how lame and incompetent NSA actually is. A contractor admin taking a dump of most of your internal network resources, including top secret / classified stuff, without even hiding much, and you only find out about that from the newspapers? In any sane country, an intelligence agency so inept would be disbanded on the next day, not even as a punishment, but simply because God knows how many actual Russian/Chinese/Iranian/... spies are inside, doing what Snowden did, except for that whole going to the journalists part. In any authoritarian country, the entire top management team would already be shot for criminal negligence (if not sabotage).

  6. Re:Personal Liberty! by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know that there are plenty of misguided people who are not really affiliated with the organization that they effectively propagandize for, but in your case I'm having serious doubts about that. You're always in very early on any story that even tangentially mentions any US security agency, and particularly NSA, or on any comment along those lines even in otherwise unrelated stories. It's almost as if you had an RSS filter for those keywords.

    Mind you, I'm not saying that your boss at NSA is paying you for it. You're likely some kind of very small fish there anyway (not menial work, though - you have to be actually doing something relevant to the core mission of the organization to feel personally offended about Snowden and what he represents). And the only reason why you're posting here is some kind of perverted esprit de corps, where your employer being ridiculed automatically translates to some personal butthurt for yourself, and an itch to post all these "rebuttals" of yours.

  7. Re:Good for NSA by dbIII · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They do not give the information to Cisco in order to make more efficient American routers

    Maybe they do. One odd thing to come out was taxpayer funded industrial espionage of Indonesian clove cigarettes for "US commercial clients". I wonder how much commercial spying is going on and what the kickbacks to the intelligence agencies or those issuing the orders are.

  8. Re:No irony by 1s44c · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've heard that belief that the US is rich and the rest of the world is poor very many times. I've travelled to a few countries and can tell you without a doubt that although there are plenty of poorer places there are plenty of richer places too. There are lots of countries with better infrastructure and better standards of living.

    The US has a very positive self-image. That's a great thing. But sometimes it can cover up things that are wrong and could be fixed.

  9. Re:No irony by ganjadude · · Score: 3, Interesting

    actually the majority of the world doesnt pay attention because they are living on pennies a day

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