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L.A. Police: All Cars In L.A. Are Under Investigation

An anonymous reader writes with a link to an article by the EFF's Jennifer Lynch, carried by Gizmodo, which reports that the L.A. Police Department and L.A. Sheriff's Department "took a novel approach in the briefs they filed in EFF and the ACLU of Southern California's California Public Records Act lawsuit seeking a week's worth of Automatic License Plate Reader (ALPR) data. They have argued that 'All [license plate] data is investigatory.' The fact that it may never be associated with a specific crime doesn't matter. This argument is completely counter to our criminal justice system, in which we assume law enforcement will not conduct an investigation unless there are some indicia of criminal activity. In fact, the Fourth Amendment was added to the U.S. Constitution exactly to prevent law enforcement from conducting mass, suspicionless investigations under "general warrants" that targeted no specific person or place and never expired.

ALPR systems operate in just this way. The cameras are not triggered by any suspicion of criminal wrongdoing; instead, they automatically and indiscriminately photograph all license plates (and cars) that come into view. ... Taken to an extreme, the agencies' arguments would allow law enforcement to conduct around-the-clock surveillance on every aspect of our lives and store those records indefinitely on the off-chance they may aid in solving a crime at some previously undetermined date in the future. If the court accepts their arguments, the agencies would then be able to hide all this data from the public."

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  1. Re:Everyone is a potential criminal in L.A. by FuzzNugget · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just LA? I assure you, everyone in *every western nation* is an *actual* criminal simply by being humanly incapable of knowing every possible or plausible interpretation, combination and permutation of every criminal statute.

  2. Re:Big Government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    So...don't vote Republican?
    Government is smaller under Obama, and the Bush tax increase was stopped by his continuation of the tax cuts for the rich.

    WHAT

    FUCKING

    PLANET

    DO

    YOU

    LIVE

    ON?

    US Government spending, 2008, (last budget sign by Bush II): $2.9 trillion

    US govt spending, 2013: $3.8 trillion

    What color is the sky on a planet where going from $2.9 trillion to 3.8 trillion in 5 years is smaller?

    SMALLER!?!?!?!?!

  3. Re:Big Government by sjames · · Score: 5, Informative

    You forgot, Iraq was off the books.

  4. Re:Big Government by sjames · · Score: 5, Informative

    Have a look. Then Google.

    Don't forget 'deferred costs'.

    The same people who are happy to demand that the USPS save up for the retirement of employees not even born yet are also perfectly happy to not count any of the future costs we have committed to in the war.

    But to the broader point, for the last several decades it's been the Republicans running the huge deficits (even while talking about 'small' government). Clinton actually got us to a budget *SURPLUS* briefly, but GW Bush took care of that!

    Obama hasn't done as well, but then he inherited an economic disaster of epic proportions.

  5. Re:Everyone is a potential criminal in L.A. by khellendros1984 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The online etymology dictionary states that using "mall" in the sense of "an enclosed shopping gallery" dates from 1963. Calling that part of DC "The Mall" dates from a map made in 1802.

    --
    It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.