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U.S. Court: Chinese Search Engine's Censorship Is 'Free Speech'

jfruh writes: "You will probably not be surprised to learn that Chinese search giant Baidu censors a wide range of content, particularly political material deemed to be pro-democracy — and does so for users everywhere, not just in China. A group of activists filed suit against Baidu in New York for violating free speech laws, but the judge in the case declared (PDF) that, as a private entity in the United States, Baidu has the right to provide whatever kind of search results it wants, even for political reasons."

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  1. Re:The Founding Fathers are crying.. by guruevi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why? The constitution only regulates the US government. It doesn't regulate neither the Chinese government nor private entities inside or outside the US.

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  2. Re:What. by operagost · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because telling businesses what information they must provide to the public is the same as the old unconstitutional "fairness doctrine". Would you like to require that Rachel Maddow have Sean Hannity on her show every night to rebut her points? If a search engine is providing biased results, don't use it. Providing FALSE information could be a problem, as that would be libel.

    I don't understand why I have to explain this on a forum that's populated by teens and adults. You can't use your rights to infringe on others' rights.

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  3. 14th Amendment by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 5, Informative

    No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States

    The US Constitution requlates state goverement since the passage of the 14th Amendment. A New York free speach law can not limit the speach of the owners and employees of Baidu. They are allowed to have bias.

    1. Re: 14th Amendment by therealkevinkretz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Should"? Says who, you? If I want to launch a web site with a map proclaiming that Nova Scotia is now Kevinland, you think I should be forcibly prevented from doing so?

    2. Re:14th Amendment by MachineShedFred · · Score: 4, Informative

      So use a different search engine. Problem solved.

      Obvious next step: "But what about people in China?"

      Obvious next answer: "The US Constitution, and it's amendments, do not apply to citizens of another sovereign country."

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    3. Re: 14th Amendment by AlecC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why? The free market applies. If you don't like the goods one merchant supplies, find another. It is not as if search engines are state licensed or limited. It seems to me that by your logic, you can sue any publisher who decides not to publish your crappy book on the ground of inhibiting your free speech.

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  4. Slippery Slope.. or is it? by kheldan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Our knee-jerk reaction to this here in the U.S. is predictable: "Oh shit, there goes the 1st Amendment!".
    Not so simple, though: Baidu is a private company here in the U.S., even if it's blindingly obvious it's 100% driven by the Chinese government/Chinese communist party (same thing, really) and as such they can provide whatever search results they want. Same would go for Google, or Yahoo, or Bing, or whoever -- the caveat being that if, say, Google decided to start censoring search results to the extent Baidu does, then Google would be finished as the de-facto search engine here in the U.S. However: Nobody is forcing you to use Google, Yahoo, Bing, Baidu, or any other search engine here in the U.S. Even if you're a Chinese National living here in the U.S., unless the Chinese communist party has someone standing there with a gun to your head, you're free to NOT use Baidu, just like you're free to NOT use Google, Yahoo, Bing, or any other search engine, too. Don't bring me your "We don't REALLY have a choice" crap, either, because you do, even if you don't like the choices you have. Also, finally, someone else could always start up their own search-engine company if they think there's a niche to fill, and they could make a gigantic point of how they censor none of the results -- and they might even unseat everyone else in the process.

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  5. Re:What. by schwit1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Freedom of speech doesn't mean I have to give you my microphone.

  6. Re:The Founding Fathers are crying.. by schneidafunk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The whole point of freedom of speech is to allow people you disagree with to say (or write) what they want. If the westboro church can protest soldier funerals, this ruling should be a no brainer. The search engine is writing the search results in a biased way but the judge has ruled that is free speech. Fine with me... now back to searching on google.

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