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Japan Orders Military To Strike Any New North Korea Missiles

jones_supa (887896) writes "Japan has ordered a destroyer in the Sea of Japan to strike any ballistic missiles that may be launched by North Korea in the coming weeks after Pyongyang fired a Rodong medium-range missile over the sea. Japanese Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera issued the order on Thursday, but did not make it public in order to avoid putting a chill on renewed talks between Tokyo and Pyongyang. The Rodong missile fell into the sea after flying 650 km, short of a maximum range thought to be some 1,300 km, which means it could reach Japan. Japanese Aegis destroyers in the Sea of Japan are equipped with advanced radar equipment able to track multiple targets and carry missiles designed to take out targets at the edge of space."

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  1. Bad Neighbors by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Living near North Korea is like living next door to a crazy man who walks outside and blasts away with a semi-auto rifle occasionally. Not aiming at you but just blazing away randomly while jibbering madly.

    1. Re:Bad Neighbors by rasmusbr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Living near North Korea is like living next door to a crazy man who walks outside and blasts away with a semi-auto rifle occasionally. Not aiming at you but just blazing away randomly while jibbering madly.

      Yes, but it beats living inside North Korea.

      Even if you're one of the few privileged middle class people who lead almost "normal" lives in Pyongyang you still live under the constant threat of ending up in one of the concentration camps, which can happen if someone thinks that you've said or done something that the leader clique doesn't like. Oh and by the way, they'll sometimes throw in your whole family with you, old Testament style. That is the ultimate means of how a totalitarian regime to keep the people that it has enslaved from doing anything to overthrow or reform it. Even if you manage to evade them and escape, they'll still get your family.

      Future historians will place tremendous blame on China's government for doing virtually nothing to influence its neighbor and ally to stop the atrocities in the 2000's and 2010's when they easily could have with all their new-found economic and military power.

    2. Re:Bad Neighbors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Future historians will place tremendous blame on China's government for doing virtually nothing to influence its neighbor and ally to stop the atrocities in the 2000's and 2010's when they easily could have with all their new-found economic and military power.

      Uh, there are plenty of atrocities going on in China right now so it's absurd to expect the current rulers in China to do anything about atrocities in North Korea. China wishes to have a buffer between its border and capitalist democracy South Korea and the suffering of the North Korean people is of no concern to them (heck, they deport refugees back to NK to a certain death sentence). In addition to being such a buffer, NK is a bargaining chip in all negotiations China has with the US, Japan and SK. China can offer to reign in NK in return for something China wants.

    3. Re:Bad Neighbors by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

      Future historians will place tremendous blame on China's government for doing virtually nothing to influence its neighbor and ally to stop the atrocities in the 2000's and 2010's when they easily could have with all their new-found economic and military power.

      Uh, there are plenty of atrocities going on in China right now so it's absurd to expect the current rulers in China to do anything about atrocities in North Korea. China wishes to have a buffer between its border and capitalist democracy South Korea and the suffering of the North Korean people is of no concern to them (heck, they deport refugees back to NK to a certain death sentence). In addition to being such a buffer, NK is a bargaining chip in all negotiations China has with the US, Japan and SK. China can offer to reign in NK in return for something China wants.

      Yes, but none of this is going to make China's inaction look any better to people looking back from the future at what China does (or what it doesn't do) today. The more we find out about the North Korean concentration camps the more difficult it becomes to brush it aside.

    4. Re:Bad Neighbors by spark89 · · Score: 2

      [quote]Living near North Korea is like living next door to a crazy man who walks outside and blasts away with a semi-auto rifle occasionally. Not aiming at you but just blazing away randomly while jibbering madly.[/quote] Welcome to Ukraine. It's about a month since we have been siege by russians

    5. Re:Bad Neighbors by mysidia · · Score: 1

      which can happen if someone thinks that you've said or done something that the leader clique doesn't like.

      Or if someone thinks a member of your family, or one of your well-known friends or neighbors said or did something the leader clique didn't like?

      Better be part of the leader clique, or leave.....

    6. Re:Bad Neighbors by Rigel47 · · Score: 1

      Indeed arguing the higher moral ground can be difficult when you're an American but I can't help but feel China has blood on its hands by essentially supporting the North Korean regime. I can understand that they don't want a democratic Korean peninsula but what that fat little piglet Kim Jung does to his people is nothing short of an atrocity on the scale of the Holocaust.

    7. Re:Bad Neighbors by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      At least there is a method to Putin's madness.

    8. Re:Bad Neighbors by timeOday · · Score: 1

      Amen, Japan would have at least cultured the savages.

      You seem to have read The Rape of Nanking backwards.

    9. Re:Bad Neighbors by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Not really. I hate to say that NK is misunderstood, but it is. They don't do things due to being "crazy", they do things for the usual political reasons. The US and South Korea show off their military strength by having war games off NK's coast. The US labels a few countries part of an "axis of evil" and then invades two of them, with eyes on a third... NK feels the need for a "show of force", and launches some missiles. Note that the US launches missile tests on a regular basis too, which is why NK likes doing it - it is supposed to show they are a match for the US military.

      What's more, this strategy has been very successful. SK and the US could crush them militarily, but not without massive losses. It's a bit like the old cold war MAD, except that while the US and SK won't be destroyed they are at least unwilling to pay the price.

      Yes, NK does have a cult of personality. The people there understand that, they know their leader isn't really all that great. They say that stuff out of fear, not genuine belief. Don't for a moment think that the country is run my crazy people, they know exactly what they are doing and every move is carefully calculated.

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    10. Re:Bad Neighbors by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

      You know those bombs are the only ones ever used in war? US invaded Iraq under the false pretense of WMD (ironically, they're the only country that ever used those, Atomic, Napalm or others)

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    11. Re:Bad Neighbors by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      I believe his father actually had a plan. This new guy is not nearly as stable. His father was evil and cunning and he is evil and crazy. The US tests missiles too but not by flying them in the general direction of countries that they are currently having an angry dialog with. To threaten to bomb someone and then send a missile toward them is hardly the same as having a missile test or war game that has been scheduled for a year or more.

    12. Re:Bad Neighbors by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      I don't see much method in riding a horse with no shirt on[1] while passing laws against homosexuals. Because if you've seen that picture, it's the second gayest thing ever.

      [1] I don't mean that I normally expect horses to wear clothes.

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    13. Re:Bad Neighbors by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Then, it turned on us by pearl harboring them to start of WWII.

      I've got Poland on line 1, Belgium on line 2... something about you being a retarded fat cunt.

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    14. Re:Bad Neighbors by argStyopa · · Score: 2

      "Future historians will place tremendous blame on China's government ..."

      Unless, as many suspect, they'll be writing in Chinese. Then perhaps the 'memory' of events will perhaps be slightly different.

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    15. Re:Bad Neighbors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Smoking weed or something right? DPRK may have began as a left-wing movement but now it is a totalitarian-nepotistic regime and has nothing to do with socialism and the beliefs and teachings of the likes of Marx or Lenin.

    16. Re:Bad Neighbors by gtall · · Score: 1

      Hmmm...you mean like the historians are now exposing the 20 million or so Mao offed because he caused a famine and tolerated the Cultural Revolution?

    17. Re:Bad Neighbors by ultranova · · Score: 2

      If there was a reliable implant that could detect anti-government sentiment in a person's thoughts the North Korean government could easily decide to implant it in every child at birth.

      Would Kim be stupid enough to do so, though? Dictators don't stay in power with brute force; they don't have magical powers capable of subduing millions of ordinary people. They stay in power because people think it's safer to not do anything than to resist. Put a thought-reading implant in them, and they no longer have a choice: any dissident thought means they've been cornered and must fight or die.

      The more you tighten your fist, the more star systems slip through your fingers - because it makes participating in the lie, the masquerade of benevolence, costlier. And North Korea has nothing but the lie. A country that turns its army against its own people has already fallen, because you can't win a war against the same people who supply that army. It's just a question of how long the insane situation goes on before the inevitable collapse.

      Of course, this might make Kim desperate enough to instigate a war against some neighbour simply because he has no other hope of staying in power than a distraction. While that would of course result in North Korea being turned into rubble, I think its rulers have proven beyond reasonable doubt to not give a tiniest bit of a shit about that.

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    18. Re:Bad Neighbors by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Don't for a moment think that the country is run my crazy people, they know exactly what they are doing and every move is carefully calculated.

      MAD was and is carefully calculated yet utterly insane. It's almost - as in a single person making the final call to not launch - resulted in a nuclear war at least twice now. Nazi regime carefully calculated its movements. So did Stalin.

      Just because you are calculating doesn't mean you can't be crazy. And it especially doesn't mean you won't start wars you can't possibly win, for example by suddenly firing missiles at Tokyo.

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    19. Re:Bad Neighbors by superwiz · · Score: 1

      DPRK may have began as a left-wing movement but now it is a totalitarian-nepotistic regime and has nothing to do with socialism and the beliefs and teachings of the likes of Marx or Lenin.

      All leftist ideologies have always resulted in totalitarian dictatorships. It's not incompatible. Dictatorship is the only logical conclusion of any leftist philosophy.

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    20. Re:Bad Neighbors by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure the death count wasn't nearly as high, but good point...

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    21. Re:Bad Neighbors by careysub · · Score: 1

      All leftist ideologies have always resulted in totalitarian dictatorships. It's not incompatible. Dictatorship is the only logical conclusion of any leftist philosophy.

      And yet that socialist hell-hole of the entire OECD (outside of the U.S.) has no totalitarian dictatorships.

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    22. Re:Bad Neighbors by cavreader · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Outside of a full military invasion there is not much China can do about NK. The NK hissy fits and temper tantrums hurt China more than they do the US. Do you think China wanted to see the US and it's Asian allies beefing up their missile defense systems? That's exactly what they got when NK was spouting all the BS about launching nuclear attacks against the US and anyone else who happened to be in range.

    23. Re:Bad Neighbors by cavreader · · Score: 1

      The NK government stays in power because of the severe isolation that it keeps it's citizens in. 65 years of non-stop government repression coupled with brutal penal laws for any dissent has produced a docile, compliant, and non-questioning public that literally knows nothing about the outside world and how there lives measure up when compared to others around the world. There will never be any citizen led protests against the NK government.

    24. Re:Bad Neighbors by superwiz · · Score: 1

      And which member of OECD has a fully socialist (rather than mixed) economy?

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    25. Re:Bad Neighbors by murdocj · · Score: 1

      Indeed arguing the higher moral ground can be difficult when you're an American ...

      Not really

    26. Re:Bad Neighbors by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I think he just thinks he's God's gift to women. If he was gay he'd be wearing nipple rings.

    27. Re:Bad Neighbors by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Isn't it funny how left-wing regimes get excuses? The moment they begin abusing their people, they're magically no longer left-wing. Strange, eh? It's a remarkably reproducible result. It's almost as if people want to make excuses for tyranny in order to not discredit left-wing thought...the same thought that inevitably leads to tyranny wherever it is tried.

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    28. Re:Bad Neighbors by kyrsjo · · Score: 1

      I think some AC made a nice responce here:
      http://politics.slashdot.org/c...

    29. Re:Bad Neighbors by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

      Well, the American left has been remarkably non-violent and anti-authoritarian throughout history, so I guess it could be an artifact of that.

    30. Re:Bad Neighbors by superwiz · · Score: 1

      Did you forget that YOU were the one that said "all leftist ideologies have always resulted in totalitarian dictatorships."?

      No, I was the one who said it.... And the question remains. Do any of the members embrace a fully-leftist ideology? If they embrace a mix of leftist and market-based ideologies, then their regimes only become tyrannical in as much as the amount of leftist ideologies they accept.

      Careysub provide a counter example to your statement to show that your statement was false.

      No, he didn't. He didn't provide an example of any fully-leftest regime. The examples he provided are mixes of left and market-based regimes. That's why they didn't succumb to dictatorships.

      Keep in mind that it was you who used the words "all" and "always".

      And I was accurate. All lefitst regimes do. The most leftist a regime is, the more it tends towards tyranny. All fully-socialist regimes are tyrannies. Even Communist China is no longer fully Communist. That's why it is not a full tyranny anymore. Leftist ideology is abandoned of volition in favor of coercion. The only possible outcome of embracing that fully is a full totalitarian state. In as much as a regime does not embrace coercion and allows for cooperation of willing participants, such participation has to be accounted for with tokens of exchange (aka money). Without accounting of individuals' contributions, you quickly get non-cooperative members who live to take advantage of others and the whole thing descends into anarchy and collapses. Once the accounting is established, you have a market-based system which is not leftist by any means.

      Or, are you going to go "no true scotsman"

      It's not a true scotsman argument if I point out that they don't meat the hypothesis criteria without mentioning the conclusion criteria. If they are a mixed system of leftist and market-based philosophies, then they are not (by definition) fully leftist. How is that a no-true-scotsman-type argument? No mention of the conclusion was made in pointing that the criteria of the hypothesis were not met.

      As for "and which member ..." It's not up to us to prove your assertion for you.

      No, but it is on you to prove that the criteria of the hypothesis were met if you wish to use as a counterexample.

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    31. Re:Bad Neighbors by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Even if you're one of the few privileged middle class people who lead almost "normal" lives in Pyongyang you still live under the constant threat of ending up in one of the concentration camps, which can happen if someone thinks that you've said or done something that the leader clique doesn't like.

      Please, North Korea doesn't send you to a concentration camp just because they dont like you any more.

      Now they just kill you and have done with, no messy kangaroo court, no upkeep, no requirement for new camps, simplified logistics chain.

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    32. Re:Bad Neighbors by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Hello! Homosexual here. While we might snicker and say that bare-chested riding is so gay... it really isn't. Sure, many gay folks are attracted to aspects of the macho-man ethos, but I wouldn't say believing in that ethos means he's gay or even a repressed homosexual.

    33. Re:Bad Neighbors by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      I've got Poland on line 1, Belgium on line 2..

      He forgot Poland!

      And the letter from Austria arrived the day before.
      Germany's annexation of Austria is quite interesting due to the number of parallels with the Crimea situation. Hitler made a speech saying that Germany would tolerate the 'suppression' of millions of ethnic Germans living in Austria. Germany considered Austria as belonging to Germany, land that Germany lost after World War I. A government coup in Austria facilitated a shift of government policy towards Germany. And -after- the Germans annexed Austria, they held a referendum in Austria where 99.7% of Austrian voters voted for German annexation. Any of this sound familiar?

      The big difference so far is that in Ukraine, the coup resulted in more distant relations with Russia, while in Austria the coup installed Nazi sympathizers who paved the way for annexation.

    34. Re:Bad Neighbors by nobodie · · Score: 1

      Even Communist China --has never been even close to communist--
      FTFY
      Mao was a dictator, nothing less. The cult of personality was his main power base, not anything remotely communist. The "Maoist doctrine" was anti-intellectual fluff for the uneducated masses who bought into his persona.

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  2. Obligatory Sterling Archer Quote by Old+VMS+Junkie · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Relax. It's North Korea, the nation-state equivalent of the short bus."

  3. Sounds good! by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If North Korea wants to provide Japan with some awesome real-world testing of missile defense systems, then so be it. The data to be gleaned from both successful and unsuccessful missile intercepts is invaluable, and Kim Jong-un is extremely ignorant to give his "enemies" such wonderful opportunities to fine tune their defenses against his small variety of missile assets.

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    1. Re:Sounds good! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      There's plenty of spare data of similar quality left. It's even decentralized around the globe, no need to create even more backups.

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    2. Re:Sounds good! by kruach+aum · · Score: 1

      Can you imagine the fucking shit storm if NK actually ever hit anything? Call me an optimist, but that would be a sight to see.

    3. Re:Sounds good! by Rigel47 · · Score: 1

      It sounds like a harmless game of Duck Hunt but it's hard to say just how insane that erratic dog Kim Jong is when it comes to retaliations for any of his tin-can missiles being shot down. Japanese take down missile? Fire a single artillery round into Seol!

    4. Re:Sounds good! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      I doubt he really cares. He doesn't want an outright war, he knows he would lose. He likes testing missiles because it's what the US also likes doing to show how powerful its military capabilities are. Japan has now decided to start shooting them down because the Prime Minister wants to ultimately get rid of the non-aggression clause in the constitution.

      If anything this will just give NK an excuse to start shooting at US and SK missiles being fired as part of their regular war games off NK's coast. The stupid thing is that Japan's relations with NK have actually been improving in the last few years, in some key areas. The very long running issue of people kidnapped by NK has made a lot of progress, and there has been some more engagement with NK institutions (schools etc.) in Japan. Apparently Abe has other ideas though.

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    5. Re:Sounds good! by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      Firing missiles is North Korea's method of begging for hand-outs. It usually works.

    6. Re:Sounds good! by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      I doubt he really cares. He doesn't want an outright war, he knows he would lose.

      This is the thing about leaders of countries who "don't really care." They don't also care if they lose the war either, they also don't care about the people under them. They simply care about inflicting as much harm as possible against their enemies as they can even if everyone under them dies. This is why N.Korea has so much artillery pointed at Seoul. And in turn, this is why a country like Iran regularly spouts off on the "genocide" bit while perusing nuclear weapons.

      But saying that Japan and N.Koreas relations have been improving, are like saying that the relations between Taiwan and China have been improving. If they're already at the bottom, there is no place to go but up. And the countries around N.Korea haven't forgotten the mass abductions from them where they'd sneak in and take scientists. Though their favorite was young girls and women. Preferably in the ages of 12-18 to use as concubines and sex slaves.

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    7. Re:Sounds good! by the+biologist · · Score: 1

      No, he's saying that the North has been holding the South hostage to get what they want. They might threaten to bomb the South if Japan knocks down one of their 'peaceful test' missiles.

    8. Re:Sounds good! by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      They don't also care if they lose the war either, they also don't care about the people under them.

      Agree with the second bit, but disagree with the first. 99% of NK might live in the dark ages, but I'm sure Kim Jong-un lives a nicer life than most Americans.

      This stuff is like the daily burn the US flag thing that other countries do. It is about getting people thinking about the big bad enemy over there so that they're not busy talking about the fact that they are risking their lives if they just watch some bootleg movies. It is also about making the rest of the world reluctant to do anything, since he can potentially cause a huge massacre in Seoul.

      The only thing the guy cares about is himself no-doubt. The thing is that if he gets into a war, he can probably kill thousands of South Koreans that he ultimately cares little about, but that will come at the cost of his own life, which he cares a great deal about.

      So, unless the guy really is off his rocker, he's going to keep talking big, but stop short of doing anything that would actually drive anybody to go to actual war.

    9. Re:Sounds good! by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      It'd be hard to not hit "something" if you managed a successful launch. Even if just an empty patch of sea.

  4. May well be of the KongÅ class by auric_dude · · Score: 1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... but which one? Anyone have anymore details?

    1. Re:May well be of the KongÅ class by shikaisi · · Score: 1

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... but which one? Anyone have anymore details?

      North Korean Intelligence, is that you?

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  5. Throwing a hissy-fit by kheldan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Kim Jong Un is just throwing a temper-tantrum because Putin is getting all the attention right now, and how can North Korea be best Korea when it's not in the spotlight? Nothing worse in my opinion than a despotic dictator with little-dog-syndrome who is also a blatant attention whore. Meanwhile we got Putin trying to either re-form the Soviet Union, or trying to start World War III, or maybe both simultaneously. #FML.

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    1. Re:Throwing a hissy-fit by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Why do you think that Putin tries to start anything? That bloodless coup in Crimea has achieved several goals at the same time, there is no need to do anything else.

      Now there is no need to sell gas at discount prices in exchange for the military bases on Crimea, and, since NATO won't take members with unresolved territorial differences, there is some added security due to that. The move also secured popularity for Putin since Crimea never was seen as belonging to Ukraine by Russians.

      And now it also does not matter what temper-tantrum Ukraine throws (as they did continuously since 1991) because now it is EU's problem, not Russia's. I, for one, am not happy at all about this wannabe-EU-member. Ukraine is a failed state and Ukrainians never have bothered to do anything about it. And no, Maidan doesn't count, neither now, nor in 1990, in 2000, in 2004 or 2010. It was just mob rule, nothing constructive has come out of it.

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    2. Re:Throwing a hissy-fit by kheldan · · Score: 1

      Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. Words to live by; I suggest you embrace that. Sticking your head in the sand (when you're not wearing your rose-colored glasses) doesn't accomplish anything other than allowing Bad People to accomplish Bad Things.

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  6. Re:Japan is getting back in the war business by Virtucon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Uh, hate to break this to you but the US has been selling arms to Japan for decades as part of the 1951 Mutual Cooperation and Security Treaty between the US and Japan.

    I think you're referring to the recent change in Japanese policy change that will allow Japanese weapons manufacturers to export weapons. While I'm not a fan of weapons sales it is a business that can't be outlawed unilaterally because even if nations would agree to ban weapons exports and sales to other nations, there will be still nations like North Korea or Cuba who have a vested interest in selling their own weapons in violation of sanctions imposed by the UN. If your neighbor next door is ramping up their military in what you believe is going to negatively impact your nation, then you'll look to buy weapons yourself. If you can't buy them through normal channels, you'll buy them from illegal channels and that's where the North Koreans and Cubans come into play. Even the Ukraine has been caught pushing weapons into Africa for example.

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  7. Re:right by khallow · · Score: 1

    but cannot track a 777 over the ocean

    I guess you had to be there.

  8. Re:Japan wants to shoot down NK missiles every tim by spark89 · · Score: 1

    They haven't succeeded yet.

    I think that the main problem that are trying.

  9. Re:right by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    The alternative scenario, had they been there: "Uh...you said 'track the airplane'? I thought you were saying 'wreck the airplane'!"

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  10. What Japan should do by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

    Just send a dozen mechas to North Korea.

  11. Re:right by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

    If you are talking about MH370 that was flying in the South China sea between Malaysia and Beijing. I doubt the Chinese allow Japanese Navy vessels in there.

  12. Not quite as the poster describes by Joe+Branya · · Score: 1

    The Japanese did not say what the poster described. They simply said if a missile is aimed at or over Japan they reserve the right to shoot it down. They have posted a destroyer in the sea between Japan and North Korea for the purpose. The Reuters article actually says "a destroyer was dispatched to the Sea of Japan and will fire if North Korea launches a missile that Tokyo deems in danger of striking or falling on Japanese territory, the source said."

     

    1. Re:Not quite as the poster describes by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      Not exactly controversial, though the thing about missile defense is that you usually have to engage them when they're well out over international waters if you want to prevent them from hitting you. So, there is a certain element of aggressiveness as you're attacking something that has not yet violated your territory.

      I'm not sure where the boost phase of these things ends either. During the boost phase itself you can only tell what general direction it is going in - if fired over your nation then the ballistic trajectory will at first fall short, then fall on your territory, and then overshoot your territory. You don't know where it will fall until the boost is over. Of course, you can always just fire on it as soon as it is likely to come close or overfly - if it never gets enough energy there is no risk of it hitting you.

  13. Japan have really bad security by devent · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Onodera has avoided publicly announcing the new missile-intercept order so as not to put a chill on those talks, Japanese media said.

    [about the order] the source told Reuters on condition of anonymity.

    Thank you very much anonymous source for betraying your country and make peace negations more difficult with an insane regime, that threatened many times a war against South Korea and to nuke Soul.

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    1. Re:Japan have really bad security by devent · · Score: 1

      Hehe sorry, I mean Seoul.

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  14. Re:right by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    but cannot track a 777 over the ocean

    Shows the advantage of cruise missiles

  15. Re:right by Rich0 · · Score: 1

    More like the Gulf of Thailand, but either way most of it is international waters. There is the whole Spratly Island thing, but that isn't near where MH370 lost contact, and everybody and their uncle is sailing through there just to try to assert their claims.

  16. Re:Japan wants to shoot down NK missiles every tim by Kagetsuki · · Score: 2

    The policy has been to shoot down any missiles that had a trajectory indicating they could hit somewhere on land. Up until now no missile launch has really done that. There was one that came extremely close about last year and since then the discussion has been weather or not to start shooting them down reguardless of trajectory or broaden the "acceptable" limits and start shooting down missiles that look like they could come close.

    The actual defense systems in place are some of the most advanced anti-missile defense systems available, save for perhaps Iron Dome in Israel.