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Intel Releases $99 'MinnowBoard Max,' an Open-Source Single-Board Computer

Posted by timothy on from the embed-and-deploy dept.

A few months back, we posted a video interview with some of the folks behind the Linux-friendly, x86-based MinnowBoard. TechCrunch reports the release of a more powerful version of the same all-in-one computer, now with a 1.91GHz Atom E3845 processor. According to the linked article, "The board's schematics are also available for download and the Intel graphics chipset has open-source drivers so hackers can have their way with the board. While it doesn’t compete directly with the Raspberry Pi – the Pi is more an educational tool and already has a robust ecosystem – it is a way for DIYers to mess around in x86 architected systems as well as save a bit of cash. The system uses break-out boards called Lures to expand functionality."

97 comments

  1. Interesting timing... by MindPrison · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...considering the release of Novena. the Open Source Computer: http://dangerousprototypes.com...

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    1. Re:Interesting timing... by SpzToid · · Score: 2

      That truly is interesting. One use case would be functioning as a router/firewall, and I wonder to what extent the Open Switch folks will support this level of hardware. I have no real background in that area, but it seems to me it would not be too much extra effort to add support for this level. Then the /. folks could replace their Open/DD-WRTs & Tomatos, while adding neat features like IDS.

      What with the Anonymous/NSA nonsense and all, I'd prefer more frequent updates than the DD-WRTs & Tomatos provide, (I can't speak about OpenWRT, and maybe they are more frequent).

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    2. Re:Interesting timing... by nuonguy · · Score: 1

      Cool.

      Someone ought to post this announcement to slashdot. I wonder if it's something slashdot might cover. :-)

  2. This is a repost from yesterday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/submission/3463873/intel-releases-99-minnowboard-max-an-open-source-single-board-computer?sdsrc=rel

    1. Re:This is a repost from yesterday by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      It's not a repost, rather a massive improvement over that unaccepted submission.

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    2. Re:This is a repost from yesterday by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      What about the accepted submission from the 31st?

      http://hardware.slashdot.org/s...

  3. Lires, Capes, Shields - how lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Why is it that every time someone puts a new experimenter board they need to come up with some lame name for a daughterboard that adds capability?

    1. Re:Lires, Capes, Shields - how lame by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

      Even better, how come nobody ever thought about using "Sonboard"?

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    2. Re:Lires, Capes, Shields - how lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why is it that every time someone puts a new experimenter board they need to come up with some lame name for a daughterboard that adds capability?

      I am partial to bustier, torsolette, corsolette, girdle, garter, stocking, etc. Imagine a mother board and daughter board dressed in Victorian Era undergarments?

    3. Re:Lires, Capes, Shields - how lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most dev boards just call expansion boards... expansion boards.
      Just the crap peddled to the "maker" crowd gets silly names.

    4. Re:Lires, Capes, Shields - how lame by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Even better, how come nobody ever thought about using "Sonboard"?

      You swine!

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    5. Re:Lires, Capes, Shields - how lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excuse me, I just need to visit the bathroom...

    6. Re:Lires, Capes, Shields - how lame by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      Use wine?

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  4. BUT is this hardware nsa friendly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is intel hardware still NSA friendly...cause no one wants garbage that enables privacy violations

  5. dupes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did I read about this on Slashdot already or am I having a deja-vu

    1. Re:dupes by the_B0fh · · Score: 4, Funny

      You are having deja-vu

    2. Re:dupes by the_B0fh · · Score: 4, Funny

      You are having deja-vu.

  6. One of many by petes_PoV · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are plenty of other single or dual processor boards that will run Linux or Android, that are out already. Some are considerably cheaper. Unless the 64-bit Intel architecture is spectacularly more efficient than the A10, A13 and A20s we have access to already it's difficult to see what this board has that the Cubies and Olimex's don't already provide.

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    1. Re:One of many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As it turns out, Intel's latest Atom offering is quite efficient and powerful. So it's not a bad deal if you've got something specific in mind. For example the cubietruck board, another $100 almost, only has a dual core A7 (I've no idea where you pulled those a10,13, and 20 numbers from). And Intel's processor here just outclasses that in every way.

      It's "expensive" from the standpoint of other miniboard computers like the rasberry-pi, but it appears you're still paying for what you get here, because what you get is pretty good.

    2. Re:One of many by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 3, Informative

      Being the owner of a Cubie -- the integrated Intel HD graphics chipset is potentially a huge feature for building apps that render graphics or video, which is something I do a lot of.

    3. Re:One of many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not having to deal with ARM boot issues is worth something, too.

    4. Re:One of many by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The CPU on any of these boards is probably adequate for most tasks. The big difference between Intel and most ARM SoCs for open source development? The GPU drivers. Intel releases documentation and code for their drivers. Most ARM SoC makers release blob drivers that work with a specific windowing system and kernel version. Trying to get X.org running on one that only provides Android drivers, or trying to get any non-Linux OS running on them with acceleration is painful.

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    5. Re:One of many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your comment about Intel is almost correct, unless the Intel's GPU actually happens to come from PowerVR. With that the situation with OpenGL is actually even worse than with ARM SoC's, as there is no support for 3D acceleration at all on Linux.

    6. Re:One of many by knarf · · Score: 1

      ...or trying to get any non-Linux OS running on them with acceleration is painful.

      How times have changed... a mere few years ago the complaint would be about the difficulty of getting Linux to run on some platform, now it is the other way around.

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  7. "Open source computer"???? by Hizonner · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The vast bulk of the functionality comes from an Intel processor about whose internals they will tell you approximately NOTHING, let alone let you modify it. Most of the rest comes from other equally closed chips.

    How is that open source?

    There's basically NO open source hardware out there. And if there were nobody would be in a position to do much with it, because it would take a fab to make any change.

    Have standards dropped so far that we're forgetting that?

    1. Re:"Open source computer"???? by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's basically NO open source hardware out there. And if there were nobody would be in a position to do much with it, because it would take a fab to make any change.

      • 1. There is the good old solder-it-yourself scene, ham radio style, hardware with a hard H.
      • 2. There is a lively FPGA scene, with the complication of mostly closed-source synthesis tools (like compilers). I don't regard this as a huge problem, as long as I can make hardware do what I want. If you're new to the scene, I recommend fpga4fun.
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    2. Re:"Open source computer"???? by wiredlogic · · Score: 2

      You can implement ARM, MIPS, SPARC, x86 (if you're a masochist) and other architectures on FPGAs. You can modify them to your heart's content and have an absolute guarantee that it isn't backdoored. If you're really paranoid about the underlying FPGA being compromised, you can validate the contents in real time with another manufacturers device.

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    3. Re:"Open source computer"???? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      There's basically NO open source hardware out there.

      Ever hear of a FPGA?

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    4. Re:"Open source computer"???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're absolutely right. There is no truly open source hardware.

      Since this is so outrageous, I suggest that you immediately give up using anything with a computer. No laptop, pads, desktop or smartphone. Get off the internet entirely. No GPS. No ATM or banking. No electricity, because all electric power generation uses evil closed source hardware.

      In fact, the only way you can live and be free of all the closed source hardware is to go and live in the woods like Ted Kaczynski. I hope you do so, because then there would be one less self obsessed moron on Slashdot.

      Do you ever listen to yourself?

      People like you are why we can't have calm adult discussions about things like science, religion and politics.

    5. Re:"Open source computer"???? by Hizonner · · Score: 1, Interesting

      FPGAs aren't in any sense "open source hardware". Their physical embodiment is opaque and unmodfiable, although you do get at least some vague idea how they're organized. They're just devices that run a rather unusual form of software. That may or may not be a problem, but it's still true. ... and if you use them to emulate traditional processors, they will do it slowly and expensively, wasting their very real technical advantages.

      Being concerned about back doors isn't the only reason you'd want something to be open source... maybe you'd just like to be able to adapt and improve it. Or maybe not; hardware is a pretty unforgiving environment, and it's not obvious that that many people want to mess with it. Regardless of whether open source hardware is needed, it really doesn't exist in any significant way.

      "Significant" matters there, by the way.I said "basically NO open source hardware", and "basically" was in there for a reason. I can also have truly open source CPUs custom fabbed, but it's not something anybody does or will probably ever do.

    6. Re:"Open source computer"???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about the OpenSPARC and OpenRISC?

    7. Re:"Open source computer"???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      For most of the FPGAs I've used complete documentation for the clbs and different slices is available.
      In fact if you open up the design tools you can manually place hardware macros which means that you have exact information about the organizaiton of the FPGA.
      The parts that are hidden are mostly the software tools and bitstream format which they don't like people reverse engineering. But it's certainly possible.

    8. Re:"Open source computer"???? by Hizonner · · Score: 0

      Thank you for the correction on how much you get to know about the insides.

    9. Re:"Open source computer"???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a little more difficult to hide the workings of an FPGA, as the exact layout and connections are important to the timing. Their compilers can sweep some of this under the rug, but if you are trying to maximize speed of a design, you need to be aware of the details. And like most things, the speed and expense of processors in FPGAs is not that bad, and it comes down to what you are trying to do. I've had projects that needed something quite a bit more powerful that a microcontroller, but wanted the FPGA to implement a bunch of output logic external to the processor, and in my case, found it cheaper to have a larger FPGA handle both the processor and programmable logic, instead of a separate processor chip.

    10. Re:"Open source computer"???? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      We're just about to open source our MIPS IV implementation (I'll post something to Slashdot when it's done - lots of legal paperwork for creating a community interest company to coordinate it and so on). It's written in Bluespec, which is a high-level HDL and very easy to modify (we've been setting an exercise to replace the branch predictor[1] in it to students for a couple of years now and they're able to in a couple of hours and get the required prediction rates).

      MIPS IV is nice, because it's a 64-bit ISA that's over 20 years old (the magic number for patents). FreeBSD 10 runs on it out of the box with the BERI kernel config on the Altera DE4 boards and in simulation and 10.1 should include a kernel config for the NetFPGA 10G board. These boards are pretty expensive, but we have a couple of configurations that will let it run on smaller FPGAs. Removing the FPU makes it a lot smaller and you can also build a microcontroller variant (simple static branch predictor, no MMU) that's even smaller. The simulator is slow, but just about useable (it takes about an hour to boot to single user mode, but it's enough for testing).

      It's only in the last couple of years that FPGAs have become interesting for this kind of thing. There are a few high-level HDLs appearing, because hardware is sufficiently complex that the traditional approach of throwing it all away and starting again every CPU revision is increasingly impractical. The devices themselves are now fast enough that they're useable for prototyping and getting a reasonable feel for behaviour. We can get 100-200MHz with 4 cores in a single FPGA with the latest generation - not competitive with an ASIC, but fast enough that you can actually use them. I gave a demo that ended up being more compelling than I expected because I was showing people some things running on the UART console and I'd left the network cable connected so the screen kept being spammed with messages about invalid ssh connection attempts. Nothing I was doing said 'this is a real computer' quite as much as people on the Internet trying to attack it...

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    11. Re:"Open source computer"???? by chthon · · Score: 1

      Please mod this up.

      There is also a whole lot of papers, theses and doctorates about dynamically reconfiguring FPGA's, showing that obtaining information about their structure is very possible (the most advanced of this is IMHO, the work of Dirk Koch).

  8. $99 = €150? lol take that you euro-weenies by bazmail · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously though, way to cripple the roll-out of a product with potential.

    1. Re:$99 = €150? lol take that you euro-weenies by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      $99 = €72

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    2. Re:$99 = €150? lol take that you euro-weenies by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      Before VAT.

    3. Re:$99 = €150? lol take that you euro-weenies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exchange rates are a LIE!

    4. Re:$99 = €150? lol take that you euro-weenies by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Huh? Current exchange rate is roughly $1.40 = €1.00.

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    5. Re:$99 = €150? lol take that you euro-weenies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where? Planet "fruitloop" (where you are)?? http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

  9. Flashback to Yesterday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is Intel returning to its roots.

  10. Who wants this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yay something that's as powerful as a Pentium 3.

    Seriously guys, I do see practical applications for this, (eg a NAS or a embedded system) but it's not going in a mobile device.

    1. Re:Who wants this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scarily enough, you are correct. The single core performance of that 4-core Atom chip is very close to a P3 @ 1200MHz.

    2. Re:Who wants this? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I only stopped using a 1200MHz P3 a couple of years ago. It was nice because it was the newest machine I owned that you could get deterministic CPU timing results out of. Building LLVM on it was a pain (over an hour), but 4 of them would be quite reasonable. My NAS / media centre box is currently using an AMD E-350, which is a dual-core 1.6GHz part - I think this would probably be faster. If it has a well-supported GPU and a decent collection of SATA ports, I might be tempted...

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  11. Power consumption? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FTFA: "The final version ... will include a heatsink on the CPU."

    That kinda answers the question. The reason I like the MIPS and ARM SOCs is because they draw so little power; I'm expecting the aarch64 ARM to do the same. I suspect that if it needs a heatsink that it draws way more power.

    1. Re:Power consumption? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Answering my own question...

      FTFA's FAQ, the CPU is said to draw only 5-6W.

      But if that's true, why the heatsink? Nobody puts a heatsink on ARM CPUs that only draw 5W.

    2. Re:Power consumption? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Yes they do. But hardly anyone makes ARM chips that draw 5W (nVidia is the only one that comes to mind). Most are 1-2W under load, with the slower ones closer to 250mW.

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  12. Government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's likely an issue with government regulation and tariffs.

    1. Re:Government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sales taxes in Europe are lower than the US.

      It costs EUR 190 after taxes in the UK. Thats about $260. Fucking insane.

    2. Re:Government by kthreadd · · Score: 1

      Sales taxes in Europe are lower than the US.

      It costs EUR 190 after taxes in the UK. Thats about $260. Fucking insane.

      A more or less complete computer at that form factor for $260 is quite neat actually.

    3. Re:Government by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Sales taxes in Europe are lower than the US.

      Eh, what? Which planet were you speaking of, again?

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  13. And how, exactly is this better.. by MpVpRb · · Score: 1

    than a $39 Raspberry Pi?

    1. Re:And how, exactly is this better.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, some of us don't like Rasberries let alone in a pie!

    2. Re:And how, exactly is this better.. by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      Well, some of us don't like Rasberries let alone in a pie!

      We Blueberry Tau, Now!

    3. Re:And how, exactly is this better.. by carbuck · · Score: 2

      Nobody said it was better. It " doesn’t compete directly with the Raspberry Pi – the Pi is more an educational tool and already has a robust ecosystem – it is a way for DIYers to mess around in x86 architected systems as well as save a bit of cash". Pi = 700 MHz ARM Minnowboard = 1.9 GHz x86-64 It's a really small x86 system for someone who needs a really small x86-64 system

    4. Re:And how, exactly is this better.. by Lisias · · Score: 4, Interesting

      1GB RAM, SATA interface and a 1.5GHz x64 core.

      You can easily setup a cheap server or media center with tools you already knows, using a 2 or perhaps 4TB Hard disk and put the thing *INSIDE* the HD case.

      One size doesn't fits all!

      (and that 2GB RAM with dual core sounds yet more interesting)

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    5. Re:And how, exactly is this better.. by SeaFox · · Score: 2

      It's probably a hell of a lot more powerful, and being an Intel x64 chip you have a larger variety of operating systems you can run on it.

    6. Re:And how, exactly is this better.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And how, exactly is this better ... than a $39 Raspberry Pi?

      I was going to enumerate all the areas in which it's better than Raspberry Pi, but then I realized it was pointless since it's better than the RPi in every single area except price.

      Just run through all the features of RPi, exclude price from the list, and there's your answer.

    7. Re:And how, exactly is this better.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The price is less good on the RPi, it obviously has less dollars than the Intel.

  14. No Wireless? by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For the most part everyone needs BT and WiFi on their boards, so they really need to be included. Sure, you can buy an add-on card, but i would rather have it on the board out of the box...

    It would add what, 10 bucks at the most? ... just do it already.. geeesh...

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    1. Re:No Wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not everyone actually needs WiFi or BT. This is meant as an embedded computer board.

      In some cases, WiFi and BT are actually a risk, and they certainly don't need to devote power, board space, or $10 per unit to have them included.

    2. Re:No Wireless? by chill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Uh, no thanks.

      I much prefer that wireles to be on a mini-PCIe card so I can upgrade it if necessary.

      Damn near everything that comes with Wifi/BT ends up being single-band b/g/n and BT 2.0. For $35 I can get a dual-band, a/b/g/n/ac card w/BT 4.0.

      Slapping it on the board greatly reduces options.

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    3. Re:No Wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't make the mistake of assuming your use cases are everybody else's use cases. I just recommended one of these to a guy earlier today who is trying to build the lowest possible power mail server.

    4. Re:No Wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      '...In some cases, WiFi and BT are actually a risk...' Exactly. I removed the antennae from my router because I didn't need them, and, while I don't think I'm quite THAT paranoid, I asked mysef, why take chances.

    5. Re:No Wireless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, I agree.

      I build RC zeppelins, and I prefer to put Cellular wifi combo cards in my things so I can control them over UMTS for mad range and roaming.

    6. Re:No Wireless? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      I do, i dont care what you need or dont need.

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    7. Re:No Wireless? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      So you disable it.

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  15. E3845 where? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is nothing to confirm that the quad core E3845 will be available for this. The website shows the E3815 & E3825 only. No mention of the E3845.

  16. Irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does the sales tax have to do with anything? Nothing.

  17. What it competes with . . . by Kimomaru · · Score: 1

    I will be following this with great interest. The closest device that compete with this, I think, is the ARM-based cubieboard/cubietruck. I have a cubieboard 2 with Debian for development that runs Apache, MySQL, DNS, DHCP, and a Mumble server from a SATA laptop hardrive - costs about 80 dollars without the hard drive and runs on 5V. For the Linux enthusiast, this class of device is about as good as it gets.

  18. Does this have real GPIO pins? by JDG1980 · · Score: 1

    The Intel Galileo board has 8 GPIO pins, but these are not nearly as useful as on an Arduino or Raspberry Pi because they are actually multiplexed through I2C rather than connected directly to the processor, and thus are much slower to read or toggle than on other project boards. Is the same true of the MinnowBoard Max, or does it have real GPIO? This might not matter if you're going to use it as a router or NAS, but for embedded projects it can make a big difference.

  19. A bigger x86 BeagleBone Black? by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 1

    The $50 BeagleBone Black has many of these features and more GPIO, but lacks RAM and has only one CPU. The ODROID series can be specced with multiple ARM cores. This "Minnow" seems like the next step up, for users who really need SATA, lots of RAM and multiple x86 cores. There's probably a big enough niche for portable/cheaper PC-based hardware for this to find traction, but for anything that doesn't need x86 or huge RAM there are cheaper options. I just hope the supply issues with the BeagleBone Black get sorted out soon!

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    1. Re:A bigger x86 BeagleBone Black? by oddtodd · · Score: 1

      I got a BBBlack from LogicSupply.com last week.

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    2. Re:A bigger x86 BeagleBone Black? by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 1

      I got one from Adafruit - they run out all the time but seem to get new stock frequently. I've basically given up on Element14 though - I ordered from them in November. First the ETA kept slipping back, now they don't even show an ETA. It's a sorry state of affairs when Adafruit can ship one to me in Australia, from New York, about ten times faster than the local supplier (and still counting!)

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  20. We saw this story on Monday by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    This appears to be a duplicate

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  21. Better/Cheaper ARM Products out by danknight48 · · Score: 1

    Odroid U3 http://www.hardkernel.com/main...

    Intel seems to be stuck making these Atom range of CPU's for the last 4+ years.
    They were a "fad" back then, and even now, they just dont cut it.

    I suppose noone could of predicted ARM cpus would improve this quickly, but its time to move on Intel. Atom is a dead end in the current market.

    1. Re:Better/Cheaper ARM Products out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could HAVE, bonehead.

      You don't say, "I of predicted" or "I of shitty grammar" do you?

    2. Re:Better/Cheaper ARM Products out by danknight48 · · Score: 1

      Could HAVE, bonehead.

      Typical American, fucks up the English language and assumes their always right.
      Let me guess, you "saw" something instead of actually "seen" it?

      You don't say, "I of predicted" or "I of shitty grammar" do you?

      Noticed i used the word "could" after "I" and before "of"?
      That is the big give away.

      "I of shitty grammar". Using "could" does not work in this case.
      Post as AC much while you should be in an English lesson?

    3. Re:Better/Cheaper ARM Products out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noticed i used the word "could" after "I" and before "of"?

      Yup. And that's wrong.

    4. Re:Better/Cheaper ARM Products out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical American

      I thought you were.

      fucks up the English language and assumes their always right.

      My suspicion is confirmed.

    5. Re:Better/Cheaper ARM Products out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "they are", not "their"

  22. I see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NSA is just doing her job. Privacy is overrated and should abolished.

    Zirconia Starfighter

  23. Probably not by smittyoneeach · · Score: 0

    Slashdot is all frippery these days. Never anything technical at all.

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  24. Really a combination of amnesia & deja-vu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you vaguely remember forgetting something.

    1. Re:Really a combination of amnesia & deja-vu by Zaiff+Urgulbunger · · Score: 1

      You are having deja-vu.

  25. Or This ... by kjhambrick · · Score: 3, Informative

    Or for a ready-to-populate and run system at $129:

    Intel Bay Trail NUC Kit DN2820FYKH:

    http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-bay-trail-nuc-kit-dn2820fyk-arrives-just-128_134400

    -- kjh

    1. Re:Or This ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Odd thing though, the E3845 processor in the Minnowboard is slightly faster than that dual-core Celeryman chip!

  26. princing from distributor is 226$..... fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    princing from distributor is 226$..... fake news

  27. I can't find it for $99 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems that all the links lead to places selling it for $189 or $199.

    If you find one that sells it for $99 please reply to this message.

    Cheers,

    P

  28. Planet Fruitloop (lol) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know: Where YOU come from http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

  29. Lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An FPGA is a closed source piece of hardware with open source microprogramming.

  30. my thoughs exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't help but feel they want to usurp the novena and then magically cease production. Novena please.

  31. Zontar = sockpuppeteer & lying libeling troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You barge into discussions with your off-topic hosts file nonsense" - by Zontar The Mindless (9002) on Friday April 11, 2014 @09:51PM (#46731153) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    You said my "APK Hosts File Engine" is a virus/malware http://slashdot.org/comments.p... but it's EASILY PROVABLE it's not, right there in that link too.

    Now PROVE YOUR FALSE ACCUSATION above: Show me a quote OR POST of me posting off topic on hosts where they did NOT apply... go for it!

    ---

    You avoided backing up your accusation where YOU said I say you are Barbara, not Barbie = TomHudson (same person http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... , & sockpuppeteer like you) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    Funny you can't back up your "bluster" there either, lol...

    ---

    Why, Lastly?

    You're crackers! See here multiple personality disorder http://slashdot.org/comments.p... + manic depression http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    APK

    P.S.=> So, THIS quote below is my policy on sockpuppeteers like you Zontar = TrollingForHostsFiles (your sockpuppetry):

    "The only way to a achieve peace, is thru the ELIMINATION of those who would perpetuate war (sockpuppet masters like YOU, troll -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ). THIS IS MY PROGRAMMING -> http://start64.com/index.php?o... & soon, I will be UNSTOPPABLE..." - Ultron 6 FROM -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

    Which quite obviously, I am, since none of you DOLTISH TROLLS are able to validly technically disprove my points on hosts enumerated in the link to my program above of how hosts give users of them more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity... period!

    (Trolls like YOU that use sockpuppets http://slashdot.org/comments.p... (your sockpuppet "alterego" TrollingForHostsFiles) & TomHudson - Barbara, not Barbie too http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... before you)

    ... apk

  32. Zontar = sockpuppeteer & lying libeling troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You barge into discussions with your off-topic hosts file nonsense" - by Zontar The Mindless (9002) on Friday April 11, 2014 @09:51PM (#46731153) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    You said my "APK Hosts File Engine" is a virus/malware http://slashdot.org/comments.p... but it's EASILY PROVABLE it's not, right there in that link too.

    Now PROVE YOUR FALSE ACCUSATION above: Show me a quote OR POST of me posting off topic on hosts where they did NOT apply... go for it!

    ---

    You avoided backing up your accusation where YOU said I say you are Barbara, not Barbie = TomHudson (same person http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... , & sockpuppeteer like you) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    Funny you can't back up your "bluster" there either, lol...

    ---

    Why, Lastly?

    You're crackers! See here multiple personality disorder http://slashdot.org/comments.p... + manic depression http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    APK

    P.S.=> So, THIS quote below is my policy on sockpuppeteers like you Zontar = TrollingForHostsFiles (your sockpuppetry):

    "The only way to a achieve peace, is thru the ELIMINATION of those who would perpetuate war (sockpuppet masters like YOU, troll -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ). THIS IS MY PROGRAMMING -> http://start64.com/index.php?o... & soon, I will be UNSTOPPABLE..." - Ultron 6 FROM -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

    Which quite obviously, I am, since none of you DOLTISH TROLLS are able to validly technically disprove my points on hosts enumerated in the link to my program above of how hosts give users of them more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity... period!

    (Trolls like YOU that use sockpuppets http://slashdot.org/comments.p... (your sockpuppet "alterego" TrollingForHostsFiles) & TomHudson - Barbara, not Barbie too http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... before you)

    ... apk