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Seagate Releases 6TB Hard Drive Sans Helium

Lucas123 (935744) writes "Seagate has released what it said is the industry's fastest hard drive with up to a 6TB capacity, matching one released by WD last year. WD's 6TB Ultrastar He6 was hermetically sealed with helium inside, something the company said was critical to reducing friction for additional platters, while also increasing power savings and reliability. Seagate, however, said it doesn't yet need to rely on Helium to achieve the 50% increase in capacity over its last 4TB drive. The company used the same perpendicular magnetic recording technology that it has on previous models, but it was able to increase areal density from 831 bits per square inch to 1,000. The new drive also comes in 2TB, 4TB and 5TB capacities and with either 12Gbps SAS or 6Gbps SATA connectivity. The six-platter, enterprise-class drive is rated to sustain about 550TB of writes per year — 10X that of a typical desktop drive."

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  1. ~1000 *Bits* per square inch? by PaulBu · · Score: 5, Informative

    I thought that in 21st century we are talking about Gbits/inch^2, not just bits...

    Paul B.

    1. Re:~1000 *Bits* per square inch? by cheater512 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Its just sad that in the 21st century we are still using Gbits/inch^2 and not Gbits/cm^2.

    2. Re:~1000 *Bits* per square inch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Its just sad that in the 21st century we are still using Gbits/inch^2 and not Gbits/cm^2.

      Why is that sad? An inch is 2.54 cm, so a square inch is 2.54*2.54=6.45 cm^2. If we switched from inches to cm, instead of 6 TB, this disk would not even hold 1 TB.

    3. Re:~1000 *Bits* per square inch? by SpankiMonki · · Score: 4, Informative

      Better check your math on that. It's actually 1Tb/inch^2.

    4. Re:~1000 *Bits* per square inch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Imperial or metric bits?

  2. Helium leak? by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally a way to detect if your drive is about to crash: you start to sound like a munchkin.

    <highvoice>Oh oh, I better make a backup fast!</highvoice>

  3. Calculations by wisnoskij · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At 1000 bits per square inch, to get 6TB you need about a third the size of Manhattan.

    According to Wolfram Alpha at least:
    http://www.wolframalpha.com/in...

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    1. Re:Calculations by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 4, Funny

      At 1000 bits per square inch, to get 6TB you need about a third the size of Manhattan.

      It takes a couple of hours to get up to 5800RPM, but when that bitch is spinning don't even try to tilt your computer.

  4. Re:Why not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    actually, the drives aren't usually sealed. there's a porous frit plug that allows the pressure inside and outside to be equalized, and which has pores small enough not to let water vapor in.

    Designing a hermetic container that lasts for years is non-trivial, particularly one to hold Helium, which has very, very small atoms that can go through the interstices in the metal. By comparison, pulling a vacuum would be easier, but disk drives need something to fly the heads on. He is nice because it is also very low viscosity

  5. Re:Why not? by Kaenneth · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fun Fact, retail helium for recreational used is often salvaged from used 'pure' helium from MRI machines and such.

    So children's party balloons are filled with medical waste, yay!

  6. Re:Why not? by niftymitch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    .......

    Designing a hermetic container that lasts for years is non-trivial, particularly one to hold Helium, which has very, very small atoms that can go through the interstices in the metal. .....

    This is important.....
    I have seen thick wall steel pipe with blisters inside the metal.
    The pipe contained high pressure hydrogen at high temperatures and
    the hydrogen would react with the carbon in the steel and grow bubbles
    a little like Swiss cheese.

    The diffusion dimension of H2 and He is also interesting.

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  7. Re:So with the Helium inside, is drive lighter? by gargleblast · · Score: 4, Funny

    In a big storage server, that could amount to few kilos, perhaps

    Absolutely. That's astute! They're going for cloud storage.

  8. Re:obsolete by Harlequin80 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hmmm Let me think about this

    Intel Enterprise grade SSD 800gb - I can find them for about $1800
    HGST Ultrastar - Enterprise grade with Helium - 6tb - $865.

    I currently have a 21tb Nas machine in this office. I don't need speed I need capacity. The cost differential is MASSIVE. So yes people buy spinning platters all the time.

  9. Re:obsolete by WuphonsReach · · Score: 4, Informative

    Does anyone buy platters of very slow piles of rust anymore?

    For bulk storage (measured in terabytes and petabytes), platters of spinning rust are the only economical solution. So for a secondary storage SAN where capacity is more important then IOPS, you fill it out with spinning rust. A 4TB enterprise SATA 7200RPM drive is about $330 right now, or about $0.08/GB. The cheapest enterprise SSDs are about 10x-20x that price.

    Rust is also better for drives (or tapes) used as backups. It has better shelf stability then a SSD. Most SSDs will start to lose data after a few months of being disconnected (maybe as few as 6 months). Barring mechanical issues, traditional magnetic media holds up well over the span of years (at least a decade in most case).

    Now I just wish WD would come out with a 2TB 10k RPM SATA Velociraptor 3.5" drive...

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  10. Re:obsolete by dbIII · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll link the above post next time you pretend to know what is going on in server rooms so that everyone can have a laugh.

  11. Unfortunately, Seagate's reliability is garbage by cpm99352 · · Score: 4, Informative

    There was a time when Seagate was a gold standard, but nowadays certainly not. I would not trust a Seagate drive if someone gave it to me. A truly sad state of affairs. I just pity the consumers who don't know any better. Even worse that they're now tarnishing the Hitachi brand.