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New 'Google' For the Dark Web Makes Buying Dope and Guns Easy

Posted by timothy on from the and-you'd-trust-this-because dept.

First time accepted submitter turkeydance (1266624) writes "The dark web just got a little less dark with the launch of a new search engine that lets you easily find illicit drugs and other contraband online. Grams, which launched last week and is patterned after Google, is accessible only through the Tor anonymizing browser (the address for Grams is: grams7enufi7jmdl.onion) but fills a niche for anyone seeking quick access to sites selling drugs, guns, stolen credit card numbers, counterfeit cash and fake IDs — sites that previously only could be found by users who knew the exact URL for the site."

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  1. If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...it'll let the Feds find them just as easily....

    Or does anyone seriously think the NSA can't use this service just as well as Random Internet Idiot?

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    1. Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by russotto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who says the NSA doesn't run the site?

      I think ATF or DEA is more likely.

    2. Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I would rather hit myself in the head with a brick than purchase something illicit from a stranger over the internet.

      How do those culpable enough to consummate such a transaction afford it after giving all that money to the Nigerian Prince?

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    3. Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      After reading the submission, I would dare to think this is an attempt at entrapment by law enforcement, more then likely it's the Feds at work here.

      Not to be obvious, but Tor in my opinion is a complete failure, there seems to be so many holes in their system, that it too seems to be a decoy network for perhaps government spying, or it was a sincere network but is substitutable like every thing else on the internet.

        I think people forget just because you read a NSA memo targeting certain networks, doesn't mean they aren't part of the network. Its called misdirection, if you want people to use a network, without suspicion then you name it as a target. The stuff Snowden claims he grabbed up doesn't have anything in it other then what most people already knew, the US is leading a international spying ring, and the US is spying on its own.

      I not completely a believer in the notion that certain networks are connected into government but I do get suspicious when something is just announced publicly! As does everyone else...

  2. Re:Altavista? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really miss the NEAR keyword. Unless you're searching for a specific phrase in quotes, it was the best way to search.

  3. Re:Good. by arth1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now the FBI and the Sheriff would be able to set up stings more efficiently.

    FBI and the Sheriff? You have no real insight in how law enforcement works here in the US of A, do you?

    There are dozens(!) of different police forces, and they seldom cooperate on anything, but try to not step on each others' toes. A sheriff is county police and would not be involved in any international or interstate crime sting. Speeding tickets, serving divorce notices, arresting the busker in front of the strip mall, signing reports of items stolen, sit in cars at local road work - that's the sheriff's department. Investigative work to catch internet facilitated high crime is not going to involve the sheriff.

  4. Re:Good. by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real hidden service URL probably just changed.

    The site advert'd in the Slashdot article is probably itself a "Sting" operation to tag members of the public for the purpose
    of building a blacklist for the /real/ search site at some URL we don't know about.

    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree, that 'dark web' URL in slapped in such plain view.. screams honeypot. Pass.

  5. Re:I wish "you" would drop dead by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wow... rationalize much?

    I bet you are the AC you are responding to.

    http://www.politifact.com/trut...

    Food for thought. Would you really want to live in Venezuela? Hitler made a lot of improvements in Nazi Germany before he became the man we love to hate. Somehow I'm not sure that making the trains run on time by making it so people no longer want to ride them is a good thing. But hey, to each their own.

  6. Re:"Llets you find?" by davidwr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ack -- posting to undo mod error

    Ah, you must've found the +1 solameitscool super-secret modification option that people with "6" Karma get to use if the computer throws a 20 on the roll of the dice when it give you mod points.

    Sorry you mis-used it, it will be awhile before you get another chance.

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  7. Buying guns? by MasseKid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Buying guns is perfectly legal. gunbroker.com, budsgunshop.com, walmart.com. Well, to be fair the last one tells you they are instore only, but the others will gladly and legally ship straight to your FFL.

  8. Re:NSA, all the way by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If people think the NSA isn't all over the dark web, they be dummies.

    The NSA isn't that concerned with where you buy your pot. They aren't even that concerned with where the local gangbanger buys his guns, or where the local perv sources his kiddie porn.

    If you're going to wear the tin foil hat at least direct it at the appropriate three letter agencies: FBI, DEA, ATF, et. al.

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  9. Re:Good. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The point of darknets is not to hide the URLs of services, it's to hide the location of the server and the clients connecting to it. Otherwise it would be kinda useless, since to use it you would have to have contact with other users which is risky.

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  10. Re:I wish "you" would drop dead by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Venezuela enacted a country wide gun ban, and violent firearm crime dropped by 1/1000.

    Venezuela has a murder rate of 45.1 per 100,000 post gun-ban. Are you really trying to suggest that their murder rate pre gun-ban was 45,100 per 100,000?

    It should also be noted that the current 45.1 per 100K murder rate is ten times the US murder rate (4.5 per 100K)....

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  11. Re:I wish "you" would drop dead by sumdumass · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Who said anything about Italy being in Germany? Did you get confused when I didn't spell it out for you?

    But if you really do think I was talking about Hitler with the trains, you can check this out and suck on it.

    Section B4 of the Gestapo dealt exclusively with the "Jewish question" and came under the permanent control of Adolf Eichmann. This energetic and efficient organizer would keep the trains running on time from all over Europe to Nazi death camps located in occupied Poland during the Final Solution of the Jewish question.