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Experiment Suggests Monkeys Can Do Basic Math

sciencehabit (1205606) writes "It looks like a standardized test question: Is the sum of two numbers on the left or the single number on the right larger? Rhesus macaques that have been trained to associate numerical values with symbols can get the answer right, even if they haven't passed a math class. The finding doesn't just reveal a hidden talent of the animals—it also helps show how the mammalian brain encodes the values of numbers. Previous research has shown that chimpanzees can add single-digit numbers. But scientists haven’t explained exactly how, in the human or the monkey brain, numbers are being represented or this addition is being carried out. Now, a new study (abstract) helps begin to answer those questions."

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  1. Even monkeys know about more and less. by mmell · · Score: 2
    That's actually good to know. Question - given a full bowl of food and a half-full bowl of the same food, will your average house pet pick one preferentially over the other? What about if it's trained to expect the other bowl to be removed immediately after it chooses one?

    It would be nice to see what animals are capable of this kind of differentiation - although the ability of Rhesus macaques to use symbolic representations to differentiate between 'more' and 'less' appears to be significant on several levels (at least, to me).

  2. So this is how it starts... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...of the Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

  3. Re:Chinese Room 2: Simian Boogaloo by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    "money see, monkey do"

    You work in marketing?

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  5. Re:So monkeys can do basic math, by Dishevel · · Score: 2

    A rising tide may lift all boats. But that does little good when the only thing you care about is that someones boat is nicer than yours.

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  6. No surprise - Dogs can do math by pubwvj · · Score: 2

    We have livestock working dogs. They do guarding and herding as well as other jobs on our farm. They do math. They can differentiate less, more, count, know numbers (we use numbers with them) and do simple addition.

    Yes, these are not your ordinary pet dog - they're bred for intelligence and work at their jobs from a very young age so this may not be representative of all dogs. However, if our dogs can do math I'm not at all surprised monkeys can and I expect apes including chimpanzees and dolphins can probably do math too. These are social, cooperative animals and most of them are hunters which tends to develop brain hardware and skills.

  7. Re:So monkeys can do basic math, by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    LOL. under dem presidents, deficits always drop, since Johnson. OTOH, every GOP (republicans and neo-cons alike) president starting with nixon, has caused massive deficits that increase every year.

    Apparently, you neo-cons/tea* are not capable of math or facts.

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  8. Re:Alas, poor arithmetic by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh, they've already written it ... they're just holding out for more bananas.

    Ever since monkeys started getting MBAs it hasn't been the same. Now they just want to outsource the whole Shakespeare thing.

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  9. Proof of Soul by abies · · Score: 2

    I used to be in math-heavy secondary school, with non-trivial math curriculum. On one of our religion lessons, priest when presented with the question "Do dogs have souls" answered clear "No". By my friend was pressing - "But when you look into dog's eyes, you can see a thinking, sensitive being there, doesn't that suggest it has something like a soul", priest desperately looking for "shut up" answer, replied "No - see, if you give the dog your math exercises, it will not manage it, so it doesn't have a mind and soul". To that, reply was short "Neither will you..."

    So, according to my religion teacher, we can rename the headline to "Experiment suggests monkeys might have souls" ;)