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Are Habitable Exoplanets Bad News For Humanity?

An anonymous reader writes "The discovery of Kepler-186f last week has dusted off an interesting theory regarding the fate of humanity and the link between that fate and the possibility of life on other planets. Known as the The Great Filter, this theory attempts to answer the Fermi Paradox (why we haven't found other complex life forms anywhere in our vast galaxy) by introducing the idea of an evolutionary bottleneck which would make the emergence of a life form capable of interstellar colonization statistically rare. As scientists gear up to search for life on Kepler-186f, some people are wondering if humanity has already gone through The Great Filter and miraculously survived or if it's still on our horizon and may lead to our extinction."

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  1. Maybe not extinction... by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But the way the human race is behaving currently, getting off this dirtball in any meaningful way seems exceedingly unlikely.

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    1. Re:Maybe not extinction... by Aereus · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The biggest issue I see happening is, we've used up all of the "easy resources" on the planet. So if for some reason we have some kind of global conflict that significantly sets back civilization/technology, we may lose our chance of ever exploring space.

      Trying to rebuild our industrial technology back up from scratch when the required resources are gone, require advanced processing, or the rest is now 5 miles deep; might make it impossible in any meaningful timeframe.

    2. Re: Maybe not extinction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not really government per se that is the problem, it's concentration of power. Concentration of power pretty much always leads to bad outcomes, be it in the public sphere or private. So as it turns out the conservatives are right, big government is bad, but it also turns out the liberals are right, big corporations are bad. Sadly, they're both too busy arguing to figure out that they agree on the underlying principle.

    3. Re:Maybe not extinction... by Ly4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Am I saying the Drake Equation is almost certainly full of shit? Why yes I am.

      Oh, the Drake equation is just fine. It's anyone who thinks they know any of the values to plug into it that's probably full of it.

    4. Re:Maybe not extinction... by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Helium is "manufactured" by radioactive decay underground. Also, He is unnecessary for life. You only need it if you want a funny voice, or poor lift from something less flammable than H. Aside from some uses as a coolant, we wouldn't lose much if there was no He left.

      Helium has a lot more uses that you seem to understand. Particularly as a superconductor (not a coolant). Without it there would be no high field MRI scanners. As far as I know, there are not permanent magnet MRI scanners above .3T. The standard MRI in hospitals are 1.5T and 3T are becoming very common. These both require He. The 3T magnets use a lot of it. Particle accelerators need He, as do mag-Lev trains, rail-guns, etc. Obviously these aren't things that mankind can't live without. But unless we can find a suitable replacement to use as a superconductor, it will set back a lot of science and other advances.

  2. Fermi paradox by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    answer: Space is really big.

    A race could have populate half the galaxy's out there and we still wouldn't know.

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    1. Re:Fermi paradox by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because they aren't possible? becasue they have populated the other half of the galaxy? becasue they don't need to grow that fast? becasue they have all been wiped out be a variety of event. Specifically wiped out faster then they can be built?

      It's like getting a thimble of water from the ocean and asking "where are all the fish?"

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  3. Maybe it's just us by idontgno · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe the inhabitants of those other planets aren't ravening imperialist douchebags. In that case, I'm liking our odds.

    Consider Jack Handey's observation:

    I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world because they'd never expect it.

    --Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts

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  4. Life itself is a Von Neumann machine... by Firethorn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Life itself is the 'original' Von Neumann machines...

    My theory on it is a bit different: If you posit that travel is indeed restricted to 'slow' speeds, IE 1-2% of light speed, and that habitable planets are rare enough that they're quite far apart, you run into that travel between solar systems with habitable planets can take sufficient time for significant amounts of evolution to take place.

    Summary: By the time the generation ship manages to reach the new system, it's significantly likely to have evolved to be more suited to live in space, not a planet. At which point it concentrates on colonizing the asteroid belt and such, not bothering with the planet that so interested their ancestors.

    Alternatively: We're becoming more and more concerned with conservation today. If this is a common function of intelligent life, our system could have been identified as a potential life-evolving one millions and millions of years ago and declared a nature preserve or something, in the hope that something like us would evolve.

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  5. The Nature of the Fermi Paradox by crunchygranola · · Score: 5, Informative

    The core of the Fermi Paradox is that there does not appear to be any basic physical limitation that would prevent an intelligent civilization from colonizing the entire galaxy in much less than a 100 million years - yet there is no case that can yet be made that Earth is anything like a boundary case of the "earliest possible biosphere". It is not a solution to the Fermi Paradox to postulate reasons why one intelligent species or another might fail to do so, it has to apply to every one of them since one outlier would go on to colonize the galaxy.

    I think part of the resolution of the paradox is the implicit notion common to us humans that our form of tool-using symbolic-communicating intelligence is some sense "inevitable" and will arise given enough time. Yet observing the evolution of the large animals on Earth does not give any reason for thinking this is some sort of normal progression. The Great Apes, very similar to hominids, have not shown any trend toward evolving larger brains since the hominid-ape split 7 million years ago. No general trend toward developing human style intelligence is evident anywhere. The emerging story of hominid development is that a long series of lucky accidents seems to have been necessary to bring it about.

    Human-style intelligence may be extremely unlikely to evolve at all.

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