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Researchers Find Easy To Exploit Bugs In Traffic Control Systems
Trailrunner7 (1100399) writes "It has been a running joke in the tech industry for years that the hacking scenes in movies are, well, a joke. Hackers in hoodies pushing a few keys and taking down the power grid or causing massive traffic pileups by turning all the stoplights green at once. While those scenes provide endless entertainment for security folks, it turns out some of those attacks aren't so far-fetched. Cesar Cerrudo, a researcher and CTO at IOActive, decided to take a look at the security of some of the devices that control traffic lights and electronic signs in many cites around the world, and found that not only were the devices vulnerable to a number of attacks, but they could be exploited quite easily and perhaps could be used to spread malware from device to device. Cerrudo said that the vulnerabilities he identified can be exploited from up to a mile or two away with the right equipment."
Yah, and LAX had probs today. Coincidence?
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Easy but regulated by federal law.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...
http://www.themirt.com/
http://boingboing.net/2006/04/...
http://www.advancedtraffic.com...
There are several standards in use - ~10Hz, ~12Hz, and ~15KHz
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Things that can be hacked:
Your front door: battering ram, sledgehammer, or even less for most doors. How often is nobody home and your home vulnerable to this simple attack?
All glass windows, especially those thin ones on residential homes.
Banks, bring a gun and a note.
Why aren't these things a problem? Because: a) most people aren't schmucks, and b) for those who are, there are police who enforce laws and generally keep order - find people who cause mayhem, arrest them and remand them for judgement.
Incase anybody thinks they are invisible when using a computer and thus immune to capture and prosecution, put yourself in category b) above, try making big mayhem as described in TFA and see how long you get away with it.
Signed: AC
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Anybody who saw the Hackers movie would've noticed that...
HACK THE PLANET!!
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Back in the mid 80s I ran a BBS (Demented Data Systems) We used to to crap like run scans looking for modems. Anyhow, one of the users found something interesting: an electronic sign on top of a downtown office building here was accessible by modem with no password or anything. Just a banner with the company name, sign location and menu.
He set up a scroll for sometime late one particular evening saying "CALL DEMENTED DATA SYSTEMS - 555-5555 (insert real phone number). So that evening after many beers, the band of drunken ~18 year old geeks went out to the street corner across the road and watched. Sure enough, after what seemed like ages of waiting, there it was scrolling across the screen.
So, yeah, in the olden days some crap was pretty easy to play with.
Trolling is a art,
My grandfather died waiting for the light to turn green, you insensitive clod!
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The issue with movies isn't what gets hacked, it's how fast the hacking happens. The hacker sits down at a computer, types some code for 10 seconds, doesn't compile it, and hacks a system they've never encountered before. There's no months of research to find a vulnerability, no scans of the target to find a known hole, just a bit of quick typing and then havoc ensues.
Real havoc takes work. It takes hours of looking through the output of a debugger and disassembler, running a fuzzer, etc, etc.
Not a sentence!
Sneakers movie was good with how stuff really worked
At a previous position, I worked for a large university who had a number of wanco signs (tailers that are the programable text signs). They added a cell modem after the initial purchase as there were a number of them that ended up being semi-permanently in the middle of the road and the idea of updating them from a laptop from a parked vehicle vs hooking a laptop up in the middle of the road was appealing.
One day, a bunch of evacuation messages appeared on all of our signs; it turns out a number of our signs where one digit off (area code) from a similar group of signs in Florida. It turns out the only security on them was you needed the software to do the update (I suspect there was no encryption, so if you packet sniffed you could easily reverse engineer them), so once you had the software you could update any sign once you learned its number.
Could you imagine the panic you could cause with one of them? Warnings about a terrorist attack (causing panic) or even just a natural disaster.
It is unlikely that the controller is able to set multiple cross signal lights to green at the same time. I did some work on one these systems about 20 years ago, and it contained circuitry (and physical switches to set the system) to lock out that kind of thing from happening (due to either a bug in the code, a failed code update, or in this case a hack). I assume newer units would have a small supervisory microcontroller to detect other anomalies, but either way if something went wrong the circuitry forced all light stacks to flash orange.
This doesn't mean there aren't safety critical systems out there that have been designed by cowboy or non-embedded coders (like the current crop of ATMs that are far slower and unresponsive than previous models and probably have never felt the touch of an embedded systems expert).
But, it is unlikely that a hack can cause accidents, beyond frustrating motorists by setting the lights red, or forcing one set continuously green.
We have here a post with a summary linked to a summary that is linked to the actual article. Imagine the number of Facebook and Twitter shares Of this /. piece that will end up being summaries linking to a summary linking to a summary linking to the article. Silliness.
Really? You're still doing this fucking "insensitive clod" shit? How long has it been? Eight? Ten years? Of the same fucking joke.
Jesus Fucking Christ, no wonder this website is in the toilet.
Although the design of newer signals in 1970 took great pains to avoid green lights on all sides of a signal it actually happened in Ft.Lauderdale about 1970 and the consequences were dramatic and involved injuries. Payment to victims was avoided as the company that installed the light pointed at the company that built the equipment who pointed at the company that shipped the light and then they pointed at the city as the city owned the light. They turned it into a game of being unable to point to the responsible party. It is astounding to see businesses do a cover up that was probably organized by all involved except for the people who were mutilated.
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Most folks pay attention to more than just what the light says
Lots of people don't pay any attention at all. That's why defensive driving is so important; someone must be paying attention, and assuming the other person isn't.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I can see a hack that messed up the timing of traffic lights to create a traffic jam, but unless things have changed in the last decade or two, traffic lights in my country have "both way green light detectors" safeties.
If a light detects that it is green and a "conflicting" light is also green, the whole system will reset to a "safe mode" such as a 4-way flashing-red-light.
So, yeah, I think scenarios where a hacker or evil-computer-that-takes-over-the-city that turns the lights to green-in-all-directions is a bit far-fetched.
If I'm wrong, either the traffic engineer who didn't order the safeties put in, the installer who put the wrong thing in, or the manufacturer who didn't build the safeties safe enough needs to be called on the carpet.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Yeah, it would be pretty easy to program a GAL or an FPGA to output an "all-red" signal if there are conflicting signal conditions output by the microcontroller. (A traffic-light controller built with only such parts is a common 200- or 300-level Electrical Engineering class project). I would be surprised if real traffic light controllers did not have such a safety module.
Also "War Games" presented hacking honestly. Mathew did a lot of research, found the person who designed the system, then researched the live of this person to find a backdoor password. The movie showed it took weeks of research.
And of course the term 'war dialling' and eventually 'war driving' was inspired by this movie.
Do you like to play a game?
Most traffic light controllers used to be relatively immune to hacking; if they weren't the dumb relay versions, they had at most a 4-bit microcontroller. Some of the newer systems can do a lot more, coordinating timing and the like, but with the older ones, the most you could do was emulate the emergency vehicle "make the lights green in my direction" feature.
But signs? Yeah, they've got potential. I've never been tempted to change them significantly, but some days I've really wanted to shorten 3-panel messages down to 1 or 2, so that you could figure out what they're trying to say while driving by at whatever speed the highway is doing.
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I worked in this area 5 year ago. The switches have been replaced by a 2nd CPU which handles safety, and cannot be overridden from the main CPU.
So, all-green cannot happen. But the systems are far from safe. System I worked on was based on Linux, had pretty much an open-telnet server running. But is intended to run on a private network, not connected to the internet. However, connecting to this network you could own all the lights in seconds.
But, as you say, the value of this would be low. You could disrupt traffic flow for a while. But that's it.
He JUST died. It was a long light.
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These mostly aren't even connected to a net at all.
So a hack require physical access and would definitely be classified as a terrorist event. It also requires a high degree of knowledge of the infrastructure involved and likely postgraduate level of intellectual insight when it comes to conceiving and executing said hack. Not some script kiddie or dot russian criminal gangs thought of what would be productive or low hanging fruit.
I would be surprised if real traffic light controllers did not have such a safety module.
They do. I worked for a company in 2005 that designed and manufactured traffic light controllers. We bought a standard module from a different company that just watched for conflicting signals, and switched the intersection to all flashing red if it ever saw one. Of course, it was a micro-computer, not an Electrical Engineering class project, but it wasn't connected to the internet and it didn't have any wireless communications ability, so it couldn't be hacked by anything short of physical presence and hand tools.
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I mainly mentioned the class project to point out that it can be done at the hardware level without too high a grade of difficulty.
Back when developers were doing these applications. They thought they were basically a closed end system that would not be subjected to hacking. This article is very much like a lot of scare articles that make for good reading and reek of Chicken little theories but show little actually events. Yes, we may actually have to consider this threat more as local systems become connected to larger networks. Such as a national electrical grid meant to monitor on a larger scale the system.
Traffic signals are certainly hackable but today most hacks spend time of things that will make them money not just for kicks or risk doing time for a crime of causing bodily injury to people who were caught in the effects of signal hacking. We do need to be more focused on security even on dedicated applications as we learned with the Stuxnet virus you can engineer a virus to affect certain hardware.
ATMs are running Windows. Its a joke, really it is. I might have hypotheticly watched a person hack a ATM while waiting to use it. I dont use them anymore.